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Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

Very true.

-Dave

On 4/25/20 11:19 AM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
***That is why we are on this site with good quality test equipment

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 25 April 2020 16:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File
called App notes

On 4/25/20 2:01 AM, Tam Hanna wrote:

Dave, you have to trigger me early in the morning. This is the only time
in my career, ever, when I almost got medieval to a subordinate.
? I have impeccable timing. B-)

Returned to my office only to find an accountant playing SOLITAIRE on a
TLA. The little coot somehow - innovatively, Ill give that - found out
that the thing runs Windows. Neither me nor my team, at the time, liked
card games (which are a total suck of life, sadly, one of my cadets is a
Baccarat degenerate)...so we did not bother to clean it up and head IT
also didn't give a f**k.
? I hope you fired the little snot.

Well, in I waddled in the morning, red bull in the one claw and toast in
the other...only to see what cannot be unseen.
? I don't know what's worse...crappy test equipment running Windows,

life-wasting games, or people wasting their lives playing said games on

***said crappy test equipment*!

??????????? -Dave

--

Dave McGuire, AK4HZ

New Kensington, PA




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Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

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That is why we are on this site with good quality test equipment

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 25 April 2020 16:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

On 4/25/20 2:01 AM, Tam Hanna wrote:

> Dave, you have to trigger me early in the morning. This is the only time

> in my career, ever, when I almost got medieval to a subordinate.

? I have impeccable timing. B-)

> Returned to my office only to find an accountant playing SOLITAIRE on a

> TLA. The little coot somehow - innovatively, Ill give that - found out

> that the thing runs Windows. Neither me nor my team, at the time, liked

> card games (which are a total suck of life, sadly, one of my cadets is a

> Baccarat degenerate)...so we did not bother to clean it up and head IT

> also didn't give a f**k.

? I hope you fired the little snot.

> Well, in I waddled in the morning, red bull in the one claw and toast in

> the other...only to see what cannot be unseen.

? I don't know what's worse...crappy test equipment running Windows,

life-wasting games, or people wasting their lives playing said games on

said crappy test equipment!

??????????? -Dave

--

Dave McGuire, AK4HZ

New Kensington, PA




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Re: HP 4195A NiCad Battery replacement

 

Hello to the group. If the battery can't be found or maybe at a reasonable price, you can always build a voltage splitter. Opamp and a few resistors. Most of the meters I have?seen use something like 4 X 1.2V nicads in series center tapped.
Granted that means the unit has to be plugged in maybe filtering issues since that batteries isolated the system from ground and were the real filter caps.
But a consideration to return the meter to service.
I have done this years ago on a HP analog VTVM and its still works.
Regards
Paul


Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

On 4/25/20 2:01 AM, Tam Hanna wrote:
Dave, you have to trigger me early in the morning. This is the only time
in my career, ever, when I almost got medieval to a subordinate.
I have impeccable timing. B-)

Returned to my office only to find an accountant playing SOLITAIRE on a
TLA. The little coot somehow - innovatively, Ill give that - found out
that the thing runs Windows. Neither me nor my team, at the time, liked
card games (which are a total suck of life, sadly, one of my cadets is a
Baccarat degenerate)...so we did not bother to clean it up and head IT
also didn't give a f**k.
I hope you fired the little snot.

Well, in I waddled in the morning, red bull in the one claw and toast in
the other...only to see what cannot be unseen.
I don't know what's worse...crappy test equipment running Windows,
life-wasting games, or people wasting their lives playing said games on
said crappy test equipment!

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

On 4/25/20 5:59 AM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests
for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about
wanting a tracking generator

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few
times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum
analyser for setting up IF ?filters

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power
meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment
and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware
of sweepers and Scalier analysers
I've wondered about this myself. I've always just assumed that the
tracking generator obsession was from people who don't know about (or
are intimidated by) network analyzers.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 07:58 PM, David C. Partridge wrote:


The major culprit in bloat is OOP. Tables of pointers to tables of pointers
to tables of pointers. In feature rich classes, all those tables of pointers
take up a huge amount of memory.
Not necessarily so - well designed class structures in C++ can and often will
result in a smaller memory footprint than a traditional C application - stress
being on well designed!
TANSTAFL

The best case for optimized C++ would be to be no larger than the same functionality in C. The version of xclock(1) running on my system takes more memory than I could install in my Sun 3/60. All it does is display the time and date. Same functionality, but over 100x more resources.

Now, it takes 4 GB of DRAM to run a web browser and a 1 GB download to install a printer driver!

What OOP does is allow people who don't understand what they are doing to pretend they are programmers. Mel Kaye would not use OOP.


Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

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In the US it is in the 902-927MHz ISM band.


On 25 Apr 2020, at 14:29, Daun Yeagley via groups.io <daun@...> wrote:

? Is that the 978 UAT version, or 1090?

I monitor both here at my home next to the airport.

Daun
Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/25/2020 9:24 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:
It is a lighter version if ADSB and is used by gliders in the US.


On 25 Apr 2020, at 13:59, Daun Yeagley via groups.io <daun@...> wrote:

? Here in the US we call it ADSB.


Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/25/2020 8:04 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:

FLARM is an aircraft collision warning system. Each end knows where is it by GPS and every second transmits is location, velocity and heading on a common channel.

?

Approaching aircraft hear the pings of other FLARM equipped aircraft an calculate whether there is going to be a collision. If it thinks there is danger it beeps loudly to the pilot to take avoiding action. The beeps get faster as the nature of the danger increases. It is generally regarded that if you get a beep it is a failure of lookout, but lookout is never perfect and all pilots get beeps. Glider pilots fly for miles towards good-looking clouds and hence find themselves unwittingly ?flying toward each other. In the Alps gliders fly in the updrafts very to the mountains and meet other aircraft head-on as they go around corners – it was that community that first developed FLARM. It’s a life-saver.

?

The glider antenna installation is generally a monopole and ground plane somewhere in the dash in front of the pilot. The usual installation errors I get invited to diagnose are owing to short range and arise from antenna de-tuning by nearby objects, noise from other equipment, (mostly data lines and switching PSUs), and obstruction such as by parts of the aircraft made of, or repaired in carbon fibre.

?

Sometimes its hard to get away from playing radio to actually get to go flying. Lol

?

Rgds

?

Colin

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Bicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 12:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi colin

?

OK on portability by the way I always put instruments with a tube on the back seat so as not to brake the tube

Ok could you please explain aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems

?

And yes the tracking generators I have only go to 1300 mhz

?

Regards Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Smithers
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

CBicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

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Is that the 978 UAT version, or 1090?

I monitor both here at my home next to the airport.

Daun
Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/25/2020 9:24 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:

It is a lighter version if ADSB and is used by gliders in the US.


On 25 Apr 2020, at 13:59, Daun Yeagley via groups.io <daun@...> wrote:

? Here in the US we call it ADSB.


Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/25/2020 8:04 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:

FLARM is an aircraft collision warning system. Each end knows where is it by GPS and every second transmits is location, velocity and heading on a common channel.

?

Approaching aircraft hear the pings of other FLARM equipped aircraft an calculate whether there is going to be a collision. If it thinks there is danger it beeps loudly to the pilot to take avoiding action. The beeps get faster as the nature of the danger increases. It is generally regarded that if you get a beep it is a failure of lookout, but lookout is never perfect and all pilots get beeps. Glider pilots fly for miles towards good-looking clouds and hence find themselves unwittingly ?flying toward each other. In the Alps gliders fly in the updrafts very to the mountains and meet other aircraft head-on as they go around corners – it was that community that first developed FLARM. It’s a life-saver.

?

The glider antenna installation is generally a monopole and ground plane somewhere in the dash in front of the pilot. The usual installation errors I get invited to diagnose are owing to short range and arise from antenna de-tuning by nearby objects, noise from other equipment, (mostly data lines and switching PSUs), and obstruction such as by parts of the aircraft made of, or repaired in carbon fibre.

?

Sometimes its hard to get away from playing radio to actually get to go flying. Lol

?

Rgds

?

Colin

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Bicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 12:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi colin

?

OK on portability by the way I always put instruments with a tube on the back seat so as not to brake the tube

Ok could you please explain aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems

?

And yes the tracking generators I have only go to 1300 mhz

?

Regards Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Smithers
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

CBicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

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It is a lighter version if ADSB and is used by gliders in the US.


On 25 Apr 2020, at 13:59, Daun Yeagley via groups.io <daun@...> wrote:

? Here in the US we call it ADSB.


Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/25/2020 8:04 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:

FLARM is an aircraft collision warning system. Each end knows where is it by GPS and every second transmits is location, velocity and heading on a common channel.

?

Approaching aircraft hear the pings of other FLARM equipped aircraft an calculate whether there is going to be a collision. If it thinks there is danger it beeps loudly to the pilot to take avoiding action. The beeps get faster as the nature of the danger increases. It is generally regarded that if you get a beep it is a failure of lookout, but lookout is never perfect and all pilots get beeps. Glider pilots fly for miles towards good-looking clouds and hence find themselves unwittingly ?flying toward each other. In the Alps gliders fly in the updrafts very to the mountains and meet other aircraft head-on as they go around corners – it was that community that first developed FLARM. It’s a life-saver.

?

The glider antenna installation is generally a monopole and ground plane somewhere in the dash in front of the pilot. The usual installation errors I get invited to diagnose are owing to short range and arise from antenna de-tuning by nearby objects, noise from other equipment, (mostly data lines and switching PSUs), and obstruction such as by parts of the aircraft made of, or repaired in carbon fibre.

?

Sometimes its hard to get away from playing radio to actually get to go flying. Lol

?

Rgds

?

Colin

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Bicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 12:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi colin

?

OK on portability by the way I always put instruments with a tube on the back seat so as not to brake the tube

Ok could you please explain aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems

?

And yes the tracking generators I have only go to 1300 mhz

?

Regards Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Smithers
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

CBicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

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Here in the US we call it ADSB.


Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/25/2020 8:04 AM, Colin Smithers wrote:

FLARM is an aircraft collision warning system. Each end knows where is it by GPS and every second transmits is location, velocity and heading on a common channel.

?

Approaching aircraft hear the pings of other FLARM equipped aircraft an calculate whether there is going to be a collision. If it thinks there is danger it beeps loudly to the pilot to take avoiding action. The beeps get faster as the nature of the danger increases. It is generally regarded that if you get a beep it is a failure of lookout, but lookout is never perfect and all pilots get beeps. Glider pilots fly for miles towards good-looking clouds and hence find themselves unwittingly ?flying toward each other. In the Alps gliders fly in the updrafts very to the mountains and meet other aircraft head-on as they go around corners – it was that community that first developed FLARM. It’s a life-saver.

?

The glider antenna installation is generally a monopole and ground plane somewhere in the dash in front of the pilot. The usual installation errors I get invited to diagnose are owing to short range and arise from antenna de-tuning by nearby objects, noise from other equipment, (mostly data lines and switching PSUs), and obstruction such as by parts of the aircraft made of, or repaired in carbon fibre.

?

Sometimes its hard to get away from playing radio to actually get to go flying. Lol

?

Rgds

?

Colin

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Bicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 12:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi colin

?

OK on portability by the way I always put instruments with a tube on the back seat so as not to brake the tube

Ok could you please explain aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems

?

And yes the tracking generators I have only go to 1300 mhz

?

Regards Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Smithers
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

CBicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG -
Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15886 - Release Date: 08/14/18
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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

开云体育

FLARM is an aircraft collision warning system. Each end knows where is it by GPS and every second transmits is location, velocity and heading on a common channel.

?

Approaching aircraft hear the pings of other FLARM equipped aircraft an calculate whether there is going to be a collision. If it thinks there is danger it beeps loudly to the pilot to take avoiding action. The beeps get faster as the nature of the danger increases. It is generally regarded that if you get a beep it is a failure of lookout, but lookout is never perfect and all pilots get beeps. Glider pilots fly for miles towards good-looking clouds and hence find themselves unwittingly ?flying toward each other. In the Alps gliders fly in the updrafts very to the mountains and meet other aircraft head-on as they go around corners – it was that community that first developed FLARM. It’s a life-saver.

?

The glider antenna installation is generally a monopole and ground plane somewhere in the dash in front of the pilot. The usual installation errors I get invited to diagnose are owing to short range and arise from antenna de-tuning by nearby objects, noise from other equipment, (mostly data lines and switching PSUs), and obstruction such as by parts of the aircraft made of, or repaired in carbon fibre.

?

Sometimes its hard to get away from playing radio to actually get to go flying. Lol

?

Rgds

?

Colin

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Bicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 12:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi colin

?

OK on portability by the way I always put instruments with a tube on the back seat so as not to brake the tube

Ok could you please explain aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems

?

And yes the tracking generators I have only go to 1300 mhz

?

Regards Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Smithers
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

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A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

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Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

开云体育

Hi colin

?

OK on portability by the way I always put instruments with a tube on the back seat so as not to brake the tube

Ok could you please explain aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems

?

And yes the tracking generators I have only go to 1300 mhz

?

Regards Paul


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Smithers
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

CBicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

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A Spec An and sweeper and an external 3dB hybrid to act as reflectometer enable such a wealth of measurements that I’d be lost without the tracking gen. Surely it can only be lack of demonstrations showing people what can be done with this combination that is the answer to your question.

?

People will have read my comments about calibrating the 8920A. For something robust enough to survive in the boot (sorry – trunk) it is always with me at ham radio events and at the gliding club where I get to test and repair many things such as UHF ground radios, VHF airiband radios, aircraft 866MHz FLARM systems. Oh, and the remote Davis Vantage Vue weather station – we have it operating at 2km range with >99% uptime. The 8920 is the goto instrument and always has the hybrid hanging off the front for measuring all of these types of antenna. No sweeper? – non starter. Shame it stops at 1GHz.

?

Rgds

?

Colin

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul

Rgds

?

CBicknell via groups.io
Sent: 25 April 2020 11:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

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Hello Paul,

nah, I think it is a combination of:

a) lack of green

b) lack of space


I sit on 65m2 dedicated lab space, and it is barely enough.


Tam

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On 2020. 04. 25. 11:59, Paul Bicknell wrote:

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

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Re: Test Equipment For Sale

 

开云体育

Hi all

?

During the last year on a number of sites I have seen several requests for people buying their fist spectrum analyser and all have spoken about wanting a tracking generator

?

I personally have only used an analyser with a tracking generator a few times in my life and that was 35 years ago a Marconi 110 Mhz spectrum analyser for setting up IF ?filters

?

In my early days I started using swappers and diode detectors or power meters with an oscilloscope then moved onto Scaler analysers

?

Could it be the new people are not familiar with other test equipment and think a spectrum analyser is the only tool they require and unaware of sweepers and Scalier analysers

?

Your comments please ??Regards Paul

?


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Yellin
Sent: 25 April 2020 02:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Test Equipment For Sale

?

Hi Dave,

?

Sorry?it does?not.

?

Kindly,

Michael

?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dave Wright <davewrightsplace@...> wrote:

Does 8594E have tracking generator..?

May be interested in TG parts...


_Dave KC6UPS

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Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

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Hello,

oh, we will do something similar. The Stinkely "Consumer Edition" has a significantly slower processor and, also, comes with five games preinstalled which can NOT be removed.


Tam

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On 2020. 04. 25. 10:02, Dave Seiter wrote:

Which reminds me, I had two Fluke units years ago that were not windows based, but had backgammon installed.? I don't recall what they were, maybe controllers of some kind?

-Dave

-----

? Don't worry, there are enough real test instruments to last through
our lifetimes at least.? Let the clueless kids flock to their
Winstruments, they'll probably install games on them anyway.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

--
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New Kensington, PA




Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

Which reminds me, I had two Fluke units years ago that were not windows based, but had backgammon installed.? I don't recall what they were, maybe controllers of some kind?

-Dave

-----

? Don't worry, there are enough real test instruments to last through
our lifetimes at least.? Let the clueless kids flock to their
Winstruments, they'll probably install games on them anyway.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA




Re: HP 4195A NiCad Battery replacement

 

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Hello,

farting around the town now, my HP 4195A still has a working battery.


a) I would use an external battery pack. Just hotglue or cable tie a AAA holder to the arse end of the unit, and run a thin well insulated wire.

b) AFAIK not. Friend of my lab gypsy had a 4195A which was a real junker. They kickstarted it by charging the deep discharged battery externally, and the unit behaved. Also, the Maintenance Manual mentions EEPROM writes multiple times in the last chapter...


Tam

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On 2020. 04. 25. 8:17, Bruce wrote:

I have a 4195A with a bad 2.4V (roughly 3/2 AA? size) NiCad battery HP part 1420-0306 (obsolete).
Does anyone know of a currently available replacement battery.? I remember a previous discussion on replacing the batteries in a Fluke 731A that someone mentioned a US company that could build battery packs - can't find the thread.

Anybody know of a source for such a battery

Also, does anyone know whether calibration data will be lost if battery is replaced without finding a way to hold the RAM voltage up?


HP 4195A NiCad Battery replacement

 

I have a 4195A with a bad 2.4V (roughly 3/2 AA? size) NiCad battery HP part 1420-0306 (obsolete).
Does anyone know of a currently available replacement battery.? I remember a previous discussion on replacing the batteries in a Fluke 731A that someone mentioned a US company that could build battery packs - can't find the thread.

Anybody know of a source for such a battery

Also, does anyone know whether calibration data will be lost if battery is replaced without finding a way to hold the RAM voltage up?


Re: Decline, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes

 

Dave, you have to trigger me early in the morning. This is the only time in my career, ever, when I almost got medieval to a subordinate.


Returned to my office only to find an accountant playing SOLITAIRE on a TLA. The little coot somehow - innovatively, Ill give that - found out that the thing runs Windows. Neither me nor my team, at the time, liked card games (which are a total suck of life, sadly, one of my cadets is a Baccarat degenerate)...so we did not bother to clean it up and head IT also didn't give a f**k.


Well, in I waddled in the morning, red bull in the one claw and toast in the other...only to see what cannot be unseen.

Oh, the times...



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On 2020. 04. 25. 1:24, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 4/24/20 3:28 PM, medasaro wrote:
On the other hand, it drives me insane that at work we have these new
MSO oscilloscopes from Tektronix that run Windows 7 on an embedded PC.
The things have amazing sampling rate and sample depth plus lots of
bells and whistled, but they... are... painfully... slow... to interact
with. You press one of the buttons around the screen to bring up a menu
and then wait for the better part of a second for it to respond. At home
I have a TDS3034b with an internal M68K running Tek's own firmware. It
responds pretty much instantly. Go figure. The old HP scopes were the
same way - instant to respond to button presses. I just don't get it -
why would anyone in their right mind WANT Windows on an oscilloscope? I
don't want to have to run anti-virus on my scope. Or install windows
updates. Or any of the other #$@%@#$^ that comes with maintaining a
Windows install. And for what? So I can run Excel on the oscilloscope
instead of my workstation? Actually, I would rather do my data
processing on my workstation which has a larger, readable, screen, thank
you.
Agreed 100%. Those Winstruments are garbage. My assumption is that
the companies who have gone that route did so either due to kickbacks or
wanting to have cheaper developers working on the products.

Don't worry, there are enough real test instruments to last through
our lifetimes at least. Let the clueless kids flock to their
Winstruments, they'll probably install games on them anyway.

-Dave