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Re: 4195A question

 

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Hello,
I would try chucking in 150USD, going up to 250 if SHTF. These units cost a rabbis ransom normally, if you do not - like I did - get them for a good price.

Tam
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Am 10. April 2020 19:14:26 MESZ schrieb Bill E <solartron@...>:

Back to the topic, so, OK, I can get a bottom section and interconnect cables. Any ideas what I should pay for it? Again, non-matching, no cal data. Could be fun. OTOH, the system could weigh a lot less. :) Got the top section for $200 US.

Re: Craigslist HP 8566B Indianapolis

 

It varies considerably. I paid around $150 each for the display and SA and
then fabricated the cables. If I ran across somebody selling them for $20
a piece I would have bought a ton (probably literally). If you buy them for
"parts only" the price can go down significantly.

Considering it comes with the cables, that Craigslist price was pretty good.
If you can dicker down, it would be even better.

Had a project that required an SA a little while ago and just loved using it.

Paul

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:20:30PM -0400, Dave Daniel wrote:
What do you mean by ¡°sections¡±? RF and display sections, or something else? I was curious so I looked on ebay and 8566Bs (with both sections) are still listed for anywhere between ~$850 and ~$2500.

DaveD

On Apr 10, 2020, at 09:15, paul swedberg <paulswedb@...> wrote:

I have a few of these units all operational and yes they are seriously heavy. This unit is nice as it appears to have the interconnect cables. It is a really nice SA.
There was a flood of units some 7 years ago and another person and told me how nice they were. Well at less then $20/section I picked up a few hoping to make one good one. Turns out far more than 1 were operational. I had randomly picked up the interconnect cables some years before that. Just because...
Good luck and I would see if you can get a slightly better deal.
Regards
Paul
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Re: Craigslist HP 8566B Indianapolis

 

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What do you mean by ¡°sections¡±? RF and display sections, or something else? I was curious so I looked on ebay and 8566Bs (with both sections) are still listed for anywhere between ~$850 and ~$2500.

DaveD

On Apr 10, 2020, at 09:15, paul swedberg <paulswedb@...> wrote:

I have a few of these units all operational and yes they are seriously heavy. This unit is nice as it appears to have the interconnect cables. It is a really nice SA.
There was a flood?of units some 7 years ago and another person and told me how nice they were. Well at less then $20/section I picked up a few hoping to?make one good one. Turns out far more than 1 were operational. I had randomly picked up the interconnect cables some years before that. Just because...
Good luck and I would see if you can get a slightly better deal.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
Re: First Gen HP 54810A with dead HD, Got ISO 3.5, Any way to write it to a drive?

 

HP54810A first gen non VIN?

Recovery to Win 95

That was a bit of a hassle, mostly due to my own incompetence.? I'm a PhD in Mechanical engineering with a specialty in tribology. I know a whole lot more about the high shear rheology? of the PFPE fluid used on the hard drive than how to make them talk to a PC. :-)

I will write up some key leanings here that might help someone else the way you guys helped me.??

Thank you so very very much by the way!?

1: In my case I was not able to connect with it using USB or mini din adapters. Did not matter if I went from DIN to miniDin? or if I did DIN-MiniDIN-USB. Once I borrowed a real old dirty keyboard from a junk pile at work I was able to connect and get into the BIOS.

2: A standard WIN98 SE boot disc was not able to connect to a 24X DVD Rom player with IDE I found but once I found a old CD player from around 98-2000 i could connect

3:? I was not able to get it to work with? the plug in board connected to the primary port and the CD ROM to the secondary. ? The scope will not connect to anything on the IDE ports until I changed the BIOS settings. The default settings is only recognizing the installed drive but after going down the list and set Pri Master to AUTO? ? and Pri Slave to CD ROM and make sure the jumpers are set right on the drives it booted up and it recognized the drive and assigned D: to the CD ROM.?

I connected a 5.25 drive and the CD to the PRIMARY IDE on the board without including the plug in board since I did not have a 40-44 IDE cable

At this point it looked like I could have been able to install the system on the 5.25 and then use Macrium Reflect to clone it over to a 2.5" drive once I had a working HD.? Alternatively It might have worked with a 44-40 pin IDE adapter? I was a bit impatient and did not read up on how to use Ghost. I got ABORT: 10180 Bad GET_PARAMETERS: 1 when typing ghost at the prompt.

At this point I decided to take a second look at the image I made using Macrium of the original drive.? I thought it was going to be corrupt but worth a try so I cloned the original disc image down to the 5.25" and it booted up and worked on it!? Then I simply hooked everything back and put a 2.5" IDE in with the same image and after resetting the BIOS (Auto on Pri IDE, not installed on secondary it booted up just fine!

Yesterday I got a "Mustpoint? SD SDHC SDX MMC Memory Card to IDE 2.5" 44 pin Male adapter converter "? from Amazon ($14.59) plugged a 8Gb SD card in it and used Macrium to burn down the image onto that and it worked perfect!? https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Again,? Thank you so very much for your help. Is there anywhere I can archive the disc image for someone else in the future having the same issue?? With the image it would be a 40 min job to burn it on a IDE-SD. The image is only 191Mb

For now I put up a copy of this text and the image file? on google Drive

Here is the imaging tool:

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

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I do have a disk outside the machine so if there is another free imaging tool that is more future proof, please let me know.and I will make another image and store it.

Stay safe!?

Yesterday I got a? ? ?"Mustpoint? SD SDHC SDX MMC Memory Card to IDE 2.5" 44 pin Male adapter converter "??
Re: 4195A question

 

Back to the topic, so, OK, I can get a bottom section and interconnect cables. Any ideas what I should pay for it? Again, non-matching, no cal data. Could be fun. OTOH, the system could weigh a lot less. :) Got the top section for $200 US.
Re: 4195A question

 

I will say that I love my 3588A, just wish it was a bit faster. :) Oh, and I wouldn't part with my 54542A for anything.
Re: 4195A question

 

On 4/10/20 12:29 PM, Tam Hanna wrote:
Sorry for my bluntness: tearing down a 4195A is a total madness. We use
the unit all the time in the lab, worst case you can sell it. It goes
down to 10HZ, which is really useful.

I have some contacts in West Germany who use these machines heavily and
can try to chase up any SW you might need. Also, why not just try to
take the second half off the dude as well, assemble the unit and see if
rapers stinkers.

Seriously: please please do not tear down the 4195A. If I were not in
Europe, I would come and collect it immediately.
Tam I'm glad you said it first, tearing down a working 4195A is
seriously straitjacket territory.

A lot of us have those. Mine has never needed calibration
(empirically...it agrees with a few other instruments here which have
been calibrated) but surely we can figure out how to get the job done.

-Dave

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Re: Racks for older equipment

 

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I use them for the bench equipment. I use the 6 shelf, rolling, 2 foot deep by 4 foot wide variety.? You do need to make some modifications, though.? There seem to be two varieties, one with the shelf lip up, one with it down.? The one with it down is more convenient to use, the one with it up needs feet on the equipment high enough to clear the lip.

You'll find that the wires are far enough apart to make equipment with feet very difficult to use.? Get a 4 by 8 foot sheet of masonite, 1/8 inch, no holes needed (it's cheap).? Measure the inside dimension of the shelf and have the local big box store cut the masonite to the appropriate size.? Keep the excess, it's useful for some things.

On the back of the rack fasten at least one outlet strip.? At the top shelf (or where convenient) put an inexpensive under shelf fluorescent lamp strip (or LED strip).

The shelf can be moved out for access to the back of the equipment, the light is useful, the feet don't fall into the wire gaps.

A flat table for the workbench (not too deep) makes a decent workbench top.? Adjustable height is good.? White particle board cut in two makes a decent 2 foot wide workbench when doubled.

Harvey


On 4/10/2020 12:05 PM, bownes wrote:

The other thing that works well is the wire rack rolling carts. They will hold a lot of weight and an outlet strip fits well behind the handle. I keep the gear on a set of wire rack shelves, roll the cart over, pull off what I need for a given exercise, roll the cart back to the bench, and off I go.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:08 AM ArtekManuals <manuals@...> wrote:
Wally
Depends on largely on
1) The size of the castors ( wheels), bigger wheels are generally easier
to deal with and actually less likely catch and tip
2) The floor surface they are rolling on

Weight? can be a factor, put? heavier on the bottom -Lighter on the top
) think low center of gravity
Though things have changed in my current set up and I have long since
abandoned the racks, you used to be able to find racks that were 36"?
high. I really like these if you have the room as the make great rolling
"table tops" with a power supply in the bottom

Dave
NR1DX

On 4/10/2020 7:09 AM, wallydoc via wrote:
> I have a bunch of old HP and other equipment and am using a Tek scope
> stand for some of it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
> about rolling stands for TE, Do the rolling racks?that musicians use
> for their audio equipment work well enough? They are 19 inch racks.
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
> Wally KC9INK
>

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Re: 4195A question

 

Heh,? thanks. That's (mildly) encouraging. One issue, I had to replace the earom, so it has zero cal data, but I'm guessing that's really not a problem. If it needs cal, it needs full cal.
Re: Racks for older equipment

 

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What is a ".HEIC" file?? I can't open it.

Daun

Daun E. Yeagley II, N8ASB
On 4/10/2020 12:05 PM, bownes wrote:

The other thing that works well is the wire rack rolling carts. They will hold a lot of weight and an outlet strip fits well behind the handle. I keep the gear on a set of wire rack shelves, roll the cart over, pull off what I need for a given exercise, roll the cart back to the bench, and off I go.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:08 AM ArtekManuals <manuals@...> wrote:
Wally
Depends on largely on
1) The size of the castors ( wheels), bigger wheels are generally easier
to deal with and actually less likely catch and tip
2) The floor surface they are rolling on

Weight? can be a factor, put? heavier on the bottom -Lighter on the top
) think low center of gravity
Though things have changed in my current set up and I have long since
abandoned the racks, you used to be able to find racks that were 36"?
high. I really like these if you have the room as the make great rolling
"table tops" with a power supply in the bottom

Dave
NR1DX

On 4/10/2020 7:09 AM, wallydoc via wrote:
> I have a bunch of old HP and other equipment and am using a Tek scope
> stand for some of it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
> about rolling stands for TE, Do the rolling racks?that musicians use
> for their audio equipment work well enough? They are 19 inch racks.
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
> Wally KC9INK
>

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Re: 4195A question

 

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Hi Man,
Sorry for my bluntness: tearing down a 4195A is a total madness. We use the unit all the time in the lab, worst case you can sell it. It goes down to 10HZ, which is really useful.

I have some contacts in West Germany who use these machines heavily and can try to chase up any SW you might need. Also, why not just try to take the second half off the dude as well, assemble the unit and see if rapers stinkers.

Seriously: please please do not tear down the 4195A. If I were not in Europe, I would come and collect it immediately.
With best regards
Tam HANNA (emailing on a BlackBerry PRIV)

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Am 10. April 2020 18:17:28 MESZ schrieb Bill E <solartron@...>:

I did see a couple of previous posts from a while back, still looks like far more effort than it's worth (or is practical to do).

Re: 4195A question

 

I did see a couple of previous posts from a while back, still looks like far more effort than it's worth (or is practical to do).
Re: Racks for older equipment

 

The other thing that works well is the wire rack rolling carts. They will hold a lot of weight and an outlet strip fits well behind the handle. I keep the gear on a set of wire rack shelves, roll the cart over, pull off what I need for a given exercise, roll the cart back to the bench, and off I go.


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:08 AM ArtekManuals <manuals@...> wrote:
Wally
Depends on largely on
1) The size of the castors ( wheels), bigger wheels are generally easier
to deal with and actually less likely catch and tip
2) The floor surface they are rolling on

Weight? can be a factor, put? heavier on the bottom -Lighter on the top
) think low center of gravity
Though things have changed in my current set up and I have long since
abandoned the racks, you used to be able to find racks that were 36"?
high. I really like these if you have the room as the make great rolling
"table tops" with a power supply in the bottom

Dave
NR1DX

On 4/10/2020 7:09 AM, wallydoc via wrote:
> I have a bunch of old HP and other equipment and am using a Tek scope
> stand for some of it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
> about rolling stands for TE, Do the rolling racks?that musicians use
> for their audio equipment work well enough? They are 19 inch racks.
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
> Wally KC9INK
>

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4195A question

 

I picked up a 4195A top half for peanuts from a local reseller, supposedly dead, Replace a few caps, alive. He also has the bottom sections as well as the interconnect cables. Thought I'd put together a working unit, but reading the cal procedure, needs special sw, specific HP equipment, etc. (I really hate that era where you needed some lame program to do a cal). So, is there a way to cal the beast without the original cal setup? From what I can tell, there is some magic sauce that updates the unit's earom with the cal data, can't find any refs to that. I'm thinking I should just scrap it, use the parts. Or, if someone wants it (good, bright display) locally (Southern NH), I could be persuaded.
Re: HP 334A Balance Pots

 

Forgot to mention that the HP P/N is 2100-1736.

Thanks again,
Barry - N4BUQ

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Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP 334A Balance Pots

The balance pots in my 334A have gotten pretty erratic. Am I correct to
assume these are carbon-track types and not wire-wound? I presume that this
application would demand carbon-track but in my search for a replacement,
I've seen references to wire-wound so it made me curious.

If these are carbon-track, then I'm hesitant to attempt to clean them so
wanted to confirm.

Also, if anyone knows where some good replacements are, I'd be interested.
These are 3000 ohm/100 ohm dual concentric pots.

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
HP 334A Balance Pots

 

The balance pots in my 334A have gotten pretty erratic. Am I correct to assume these are carbon-track types and not wire-wound? I presume that this application would demand carbon-track but in my search for a replacement, I've seen references to wire-wound so it made me curious.

If these are carbon-track, then I'm hesitant to attempt to clean them so wanted to confirm.

Also, if anyone knows where some good replacements are, I'd be interested. These are 3000 ohm/100 ohm dual concentric pots.

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
Re: Craigslist HP 8566B Indianapolis

 

I have a few of these units all operational and yes they are seriously heavy. This unit is nice as it appears to have the interconnect cables. It is a really nice SA.
There was a flood?of units some 7 years ago and another person and told me how nice they were. Well at less then $20/section I picked up a few hoping to?make one good one. Turns out far more than 1 were operational. I had randomly picked up the interconnect cables some years before that. Just because...
Good luck and I would see if you can get a slightly better deal.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
Re: Racks for older equipment

 

Wally
Depends on largely on
1) The size of the castors ( wheels), bigger wheels are generally easier to deal with and actually less likely catch and tip
2) The floor surface they are rolling on

Weight? can be a factor, put? heavier on the bottom -Lighter on the top ) think low center of gravity
Though things have changed in my current set up and I have long since abandoned the racks, you used to be able to find racks that were 36"? high. I really like these if you have the room as the make great rolling "table tops" with a power supply in the bottom

Dave
NR1DX

On 4/10/2020 7:09 AM, wallydoc via groups.io wrote:
I have a bunch of old HP and other equipment and am using a Tek scope stand for some of it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about rolling stands for TE, Do the rolling racks?that musicians use for their audio equipment work well enough? They are 19 inch racks.
Any suggestions would be helpful.

Wally KC9INK
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Re: Seeking advice on a precision DVM

 

There are plenty of 34401A displays on ebay for under $30. I assume they're clones since there are so many but have no reason to think they're bad. I'm hoping the prices on 53131A displays will also continue to fall.
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Racks for older equipment

 

I have a bunch of old HP and other equipment and am using a Tek scope stand for some of it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about rolling stands for TE, Do the rolling racks?that musicians use for their audio equipment work well enough? They are 19 inch racks.
Any suggestions would be helpful.

Wally KC9INK
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