Hi Mike,

Great news, I for one would be interested in details of your solution.

Peter

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 06:35 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:

Yes, there has been a huge flurry of activity since it was discussed here recently. That's been really nice to see.

You're welcome, HaHa! I've created/updated a bunch (20-something) of pages in the past week or so.
I'm probably 'done' for the moment - just 4 more units that I could maybe add, but they're in the very cold garage...
In most cases, I've only entered basic info that was "close at hand": the most basic specs, a photo, and an intro date. In a lot of the intro dates, I show (for example) "c.1984" based on the earliest copyright date seen in the manual.
So, hopefully I've created a good framework that can be built on in the future.
Per Dave's guidelines, I've only uploaded manuals that do NOT have a 'mark' saying where they were downloaded from.

Pete

I have two Q meters (HF and VHF) and an RX meter for sale in Los Angeles.? Boat anchors, expensive to ship.

All in excellent condition with original or copy manuals.? Everything works.

The Q meters are dark gray, Boonton style, but the RX meter is more recent with HP gray and HP knobs.

Make reasonable offer, any or all.

Bob

On 1/6/22 5:27 PM, Chris B wrote:

Cool, a lot of new content on hpwiki since the last time I visited.

Yes, there has been a huge flurry of activity since it was discussed here recently. That's been really nice to see.

I added the 3478a and 8643a pages but didn't get to the 4195 which I find a bit daunting. Plus, there's no VNA category yet.

Yeah, I have a 4195A too, I thought about it for a minute last summer and decided against doing that page, at least until I have like a whole day to spend on it. ;)

But, feel free to add categories. Use the mailing list to propose changes or additions, though, if you're not sure about something.

Is there a way to get the changelog for individual pages ? Looks like the "Recent Changes" page aggregates the entire wiki...

I haven't bothered with any changelog stuff. If it's just that the "Recent Changes" page looks huge, it may be because there have been a huge number of additions in the past week. If it's everything, then I'll need to take a look at it.

Also, I've been a bit reluctant to upload all the manuals & firmware I have - it's a lot of big files, already available at ko4bb/ keysight/ bitsavers etc.
@D. Mcguire : I'm happy to upload them but wanted to hear your preference first . A few 100MB may not be a problem today but if the wiki picks up in traffic you may feel otherwise...

There are no bandwidth or storage problems here; this isn't a "home" network.

But one thing's for sure, I don't want to find myself in the position of policing the uploads to make sure no Artek manuals show up in there, etc.

At last count, my ~/Documentation/HP directory was sitting at about 16GB.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

The Op manual is an HP original printing, the Service manual is a repro with a CD of the schematics in pdf. The binder in the Op manual has broken away from the outer cover.
See pictures
$15 for both, plus USPS Medial Mail shipping.

Both are original HP printing, in one binder.
$15 plus USPS Media Mail

Cool, a lot of new content on hpwiki since the last time I visited. I added the 3478a and 8643a pages but didn't get to the 4195 which I find a bit daunting. Plus, there's no VNA category yet.

Is there a way to get the changelog for individual pages ? Looks like the "Recent Changes" page aggregates the entire wiki...

Also, I've been a bit reluctant to upload all the manuals & firmware I have - it's a lot of big files, already available at ko4bb/ keysight/ bitsavers etc.
@D. Mcguire : I'm happy to upload them but wanted to hear your preference first . A few 100MB may not be a problem today but if the wiki picks up in traffic you may feel otherwise...

I'm not familiar with the 8663A, but I did have a problem once on my 8780A where the keypad didn't respond.? The problem turned out to be a broken copper leaf spring underneath the "8" key.? The key contact was being shorted closed and to the instrument, it appeared that the "8" key was always being depressed.? To the user, the entire instrument keyboard appeared as non-responsive.

After I figured out the problem, I realized why a single "8" always appeared on the display after the instrument powered up.? Doooohhh! :-)?

Appreciate your help!

So, I tried booting the scope from a 12V bench supply.

Unfortunately no joy...

The thing draws about 2 Amps while doing nothing, is that reasonable (label says 100W on back panel) ?

On 6. Jan 2022, at 14:58, Tommy <tommy@...> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion but no sleep mode I'm aware of.

Not necessarily a sleep mode.

When the on-off-switch does not cut mains power completely it means the unit is not off but in a standby-mode where some electronics are always active.

cheers
Martin

Thanks for the suggestion but no sleep mode I'm aware of.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:29 AM, tmillermdems wrote:

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Main board has a battery, CR2032, I measured battery to 3.05V while in place.

Was the power on or off when you measured the cell voltage?

Scope was powered off.

Enough of this, both of you.

-Dave, list moderator

On January 5, 2022 9:10:35 PM "cheater cheater" <cheater00social@...> wrote:

I don't think that was clear enough - consider taking out a full page
ad in the New York Times

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:57 PM Sean Turner via groups.io
<sdturne@...> wrote:

I can choose not to participate.

Sean

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 10:26 AM, cheater cheater wrote:

The owner of every forum is exempt from every rule they set, and you
can't do anything about it. This forum, unlike others, states it
outright. I put this rule in explicitly so people who make trouble
don't start contrived technical legal babble arguments about what I
may or may not do when I'm moderating the platform. This prevents any
"gotcha" moments. This sort of trolling strategy comes up often enough
on well populated forums that it's a real time waster.

For example, let's say someone said a racist cuss word. I'll kick them
off saying "you're getting kicked off because you said X". Then
they'll start arguing that I should kick myself off, or something
equally stupid. I've had this happen a million times and I can't be
bothered with that. Hence rule 6.




On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:32 AM Sean Turner via groups.io
<sdturne@...> wrote:


Rule #6: "The server owner is exempt from all rules for obvious reasons"

I'll pass.

Sean

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

I don't think that was clear enough - consider taking out a full page
ad in the New York Times

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:57 PM Sean Turner via groups.io
<sdturne@...> wrote:

I can choose not to participate.

Sean

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 10:26 AM, cheater cheater wrote:

The owner of every forum is exempt from every rule they set, and you
can't do anything about it. This forum, unlike others, states it
outright. I put this rule in explicitly so people who make trouble
don't start contrived technical legal babble arguments about what I
may or may not do when I'm moderating the platform. This prevents any
"gotcha" moments. This sort of trolling strategy comes up often enough
on well populated forums that it's a real time waster.

For example, let's say someone said a racist cuss word. I'll kick them
off saying "you're getting kicked off because you said X". Then
they'll start arguing that I should kick myself off, or something
equally stupid. I've had this happen a million times and I can't be
bothered with that. Hence rule 6.




On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:32 AM Sean Turner via groups.io
<sdturne@...> wrote:


Rule #6: "The server owner is exempt from all rules for obvious reasons"

I'll pass.

Sean

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Greetings from Sweden, Scandinavia!

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I'm Tommy, a new member here on groups.io although in the distant past a member at Yahoo.

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Main board has a battery, CR2032, I measured battery to 3.05V while in place.

Was the power on or off when you measured the cell voltage?

Regards, and happy new year.

The battery maybe a little weak, what info is lost if I replace it, cal data or user settings ?

So, I need help, any and all comments on what I measured and what to try next, please.

._,Waew_._,_

Thanks Glen for your answer and yes I was afraid of that.

I'll give Keysight a call anyway.

Interesting link, not for the fainthhearted, I'll have to digest that, slowly...

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:10 AM Tommy <tommy@...> wrote:

Greetings from Sweden, Scandinavia!

I'm Tommy, a new member here on groups.io although in the distant past a member at Yahoo.

On my bench I have several "HPAK" instruments, mostly HP brand, aged for 25+ years...

Yesterday I needed a scope and powered up the Agilent DSO-X 3012A, fan starts, Run/Stop blinks twice, entry knob symbol and intensity key blinks, channel 2 button lights up and the ref/math/digital/serial buttons come on, then nothing else.
No display and no reaction to button presses.

There are known issues with boot flash corruption on some models of
Keysight scopes. At some point Keysight would fix the scopes even if
they were out of warranty if they had this particular issue. No idea
if that is still the case. There were subsequent firmware updates
which attempted to reduce the possibility of this issue. If you can
get the scope into the state where it boots again, try to update to
the latest firmware while it is booted.

Several discussions about this issue on the eevblog forum, for example:
!/msg3449446/#msg3449446