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AM modulated sine wave - Q about oscilloscope triggering
Apologies to all if this is a *really* basic question but I'm playing with AM modulation but struggling to set up my scope (Rigol DS1052) to trigger properly. I have an HP 3325A producing 450kHz at 4Vpp. I'm AM modulating it at 1kHz/4Vpp. The output is modulating fine - I can vary the modulation frequency and Vpp and it changes as expected. But I'm struggling how to set up the scope so I get a nice stable AM modulated sine wave on the screen. I don't seem to be setting up the triggering properly - tried a lot of combinations. It jumps around no matter what I try.? Could some kind soul put me out of my misery please? :-) thank you Tony |
Re: HP8568B does not start.
Lou -
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Possibly - I'm more familiar with the 8566. Many times the number of the CPU board was changed because of chip substitution with no external function change. Here are things to check: 1) Are the first 4 digits of the SN the same 2) Are the motherboard part numbers the same 3) Are the CPU numbers the same 4) Are the FIRMWARE versions the same If 2,2 and 4 are identical, absolutely OK to change. If 2 and 4 are the same but 3 is different, probably OK - go to Keysight find a part site, put in the part number of the EXISTING CPU and see if the WORKING CPU is a substitute = OK. If 4 are the same it is also probably OK Just collect all the data B4 doing the sub. Cheers! Bruce Quoting Lou Blasco <vk3alb@...>: Hi All, |
Re: HP 8970B noisy fan
It's in the basement of my house will never go beyond 21¡ãC / 70¡ãF. However I don't really know where the 115V are comming from inside the instument. Is there a transformer or power supply for it? The instrument can be powered with 110V to 240V. Does anyone have the schematic od the instrument?Hi Marc, since all these instruments can be switched from 110 to 220 volts, to supply 110 volts to the fan it either has a tap on the secondary or its connected across one of the two halves of the primary. In any case: a 220 volt fan replacing a 110 volt fan will run at a fraction of noise and power consumption, but the large 120x120x25mm types still deliver a decent airflow. Plentyful sufficient if your unit is running in the basement, except maybe for a power supply operating at the edge of its envelope (but these usually have thermal cutouts). cheers Martin |
HP8568B does not start.
Hi All, I was given a HP8568B that doesn't work. The 85662 display section is good but it seems the CPU in the analyzer box does not boot. The lithium battery on A15 leaked and was removed at some stage in the past. The acid got under the clock module and ate the leads away. The rest of the board looks ok so I pulled the clock chip and substituted an external 14.7456MHz oscillator for the purpose of testing but still nothing from the CPU.? All power supplies measure good. Both INSTR CHECK LEDs remain on. None of the LEDs on A15 come on ever even if I push the INSTRUMENT PRESET key. All the yellow leds on both units remain illuminated. I don't have extender cards, just a 'scope and a meter. However I do have another functional 8568B. Is it reasonable to take a good A15 card from one machine and put it in another for troubleshooting purposes? Besides the terrifying risk that I might end up with two dead analyzers is there anything else I should consider?? Regards Lou VK3ALB |
Re: HP ic needed
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDave just put into words the whole thought.? ?Right, Dave? Jim Ford Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Feher <n4fs@...> Date: 2/18/22 7:48 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP ic needed Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 10:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP ic needed On February 18, 2022 10:08:38 PM "Andrew Curlik" <kb2lmn@...> wrote: > I¡¯m looking for the following IC. ? Wow. ? "HI everyone, I'm looking for the IC in the attached photo to fix one of my instruments. Would anyone happen to have one to spare? Will pay a reasonable price, swap, etc. Thanks, I hope everyone is having a nice Friday night." ? There.? Fixed that for ya. ? Sheesh. ????????? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
Re: HP ic needed
I do not get it. What is he looking for and how did Dave fix it? 73 - Mike
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Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 10:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP ic needed On February 18, 2022 10:08:38 PM "Andrew Curlik" <kb2lmn@...> wrote: I¡¯m looking for the following IC.Wow. "HI everyone, I'm looking for the IC in the attached photo to fix one of my instruments. Would anyone happen to have one to spare? Will pay a reasonable price, swap, etc. Thanks, I hope everyone is having a nice Friday night." There. Fixed that for ya. Sheesh. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
Re: HP ic needed
On February 18, 2022 10:08:38 PM "Andrew Curlik" <kb2lmn@...> wrote:
I¡¯m looking for the following IC.Wow. "HI everyone, I'm looking for the IC in the attached photo to fix one of my instruments. Would anyone happen to have one to spare? Will pay a reasonable price, swap, etc. Thanks, I hope everyone is having a nice Friday night." There. Fixed that for ya. Sheesh. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
Re: HP-8753E Which PROM Holds S/N & OPT Info?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Vladan:Thanks for the information! I am preparing to conduct a A9 CPU Board Transplant. I would like to read this data, and save it before I proceed forward.? I am not sure there is another way to do this.? Rich On Feb 18, 2022, at 8:57 PM, pianovt via groups.io <pianovt@...> wrote:
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Re: HP-8753E Which PROM Holds S/N & OPT Info?
Rich,
There is something wrong if you are troubleshooting on that level. I suspect you may do more damage than good. But, if you really want to proceed, the EEPROM is U402, right next to S400. It's not socketed and the part is either an Atmel or Xicor 28HC64. Vladan |
HP-8753E Which PROM Holds S/N & OPT Info?
All: I posted earlier in the week on issue pertaining to my inability to enter a license key for my 8753E. While I solved a definite problem in my A9 CPU Board, the PLCC EEPROM does not contain Serial Number or OPT information. After peeling back a few stickers and looking deeper, it appears I have multiple memory devices which would hold this type of data.? After looking around the CPU Board I have no less than 4 Dallas DS1610's and 2 AMD AM27S191ASC's. I think the Dallas NVRAM probably contains calibration constant for the VNA. I am leaning towards the two AMD27S19's. Can anyone confirm which chip on the A9 Board houses the data I need to gain access too? Rich?? |
Re: Power meter E4416A problem power on
Displays are really hard to find.? Does anybody know the specs on the display?
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Tom On 2/18/2022 1:37 PM, jfphp via groups.io wrote:
Another problem with these power meters (4418) : a single tiny dead line on the display. Any idea ? |
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Ok Vladimir thanks Le ven. 18 f¨¦vr. 2022 ¨¤ 22:00, Vladimir Filip <vf@...> a ¨¦crit?:
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Re: Power meter E4416A problem power on
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou can check this Youtube video:? Solving exactly the same issue as you have. It shows how to check all power supplies and also how to switch on the instrument by shorting specific contacts on main board what should tell you whether your meter or just keypad are faulty.
Vladimir
Dne 18.02.2022 v 21:05 Mohamed Atif
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Re: Power meter E4416A problem power on
Richard it can be a problem with the keypad or also a problem with the motherboard an electronic component is defective. Le ven. 18 f¨¦vr. 2022 ¨¤ 19:15, Richard Parrish <Richard@...> a ¨¦crit?:
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Re: Power meter E4416A problem power on
it can be a problem with the keypad or also a problem with the motherboard an electronic component is defective Le ven. 18 f¨¦vr. 2022 ¨¤ 19:15, Richard Parrish <Richard@...> a ¨¦crit?:
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Re: HP 8970B noisy fan
In my HP5345A I have EBM-Papst 4606N fan. This type is still being produced, it is 115V/20W with 106 CFM but it is 51dB(A)! Counter is specified for operating temperature from 0 to 55 degC. As we don't have 55degC in our homes, I am sure lower CFM will work fine.
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The most silent fan I have found is 22dB(A) but just 53CFM - type OA125AP-11-3TB. I am more considering another fan 76CFM with 32dB(A) - type 11938MB-A1K-EA-00. Still not decided which one to buy. Vladimir Dne 18.02.2022 v 18:44 John kolb napsal(a): Same problem with my HP5245. Love the large display. Do you have a CFM rating to look for? |
Re: Power meter E4416A problem power on
Another problem with these power meters (4418) : a single tiny dead line on the display. Any idea ? On Friday, February 18, 2022, 07:15:40 PM GMT+1, Richard Parrish <richard@...> wrote: The switch contacts are laminated into the front panel overlay.? Cheap to manufacture but the failure rate is high after 4-6years of constant service.? The part number is E4418-66502 Key Flexi Circuit ($302 from Keysight) and is used in the E4416, 17, 18, and E4419.? It might be cheaper to buy a defective power meter and scavenge it for the overlay.? You can search ebay for front panel overlay and you should find some for sale.? I've seen prices range from $30 to 125.00 on ebay and they're all selling the same item that is of course, Make in China. . . .? There are some listed now for $27, titled For Agilent/HP E4418A/B /E4416A/E4419A/B/E4417A Press Key Film membrane keypad Richard From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mohamed Atif via groups.io <mohammedatif1968@...> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:44 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Power meter E4416A problem power on ? How is the Price of this keybad in eBay. Le ven. 18 f¨¦vr. 2022 ¨¤ 01:05, Mohamed Atif via <mohammedatif1968=[email protected]> a ¨¦crit?:
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Re: Power meter E4416A problem power on
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThere are on ebay now for as low as $21 and as high as $125. I bought some a while back.? They work fine but instead of an orange standby LED it has a red LED.
Tom Bryan
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