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HP8559A Display Chip

g0mjw
 

I an repairing an 8559A that I acquired recently, unfortunately the
LD120CJ ADC chip has filed, possibly also the LD121CJ as well. Does
anyone have spares? I have tried the usual surplus outlets and none
have any, apart from those with $250 minimum orders. I know how the
circuit works and I will have to replace it if necessary, but a modern
voltmeter would not look right.

It has another fault with the gain level shifting on some bandwidth
ranges - I assume this is the usual switch contact problem like I had
on my 8558.

Regards
Mike


Re: plastic feet locking strip on HP equipment.

Alexander Whiplash
 

--- Mark <marks@...> wrote:

Can someone please advise me what the plastic strip
along the top of
circa 1980's HP equipment is called?
--- Mark <marks@...> wrote:

Can someone please advise me what the plastic strip
along the top of
circa 1980's HP equipment is called?
One description for it is "top frame plastic piece".
By the early 90s it had become a slightly lighter
color plastic than earlier. A part number is
5041-8802. You can buy them from www.agilent.com, but
cost is rather high at $14. I need one myself, and I
have no clue why these are so easily lost. Usually
there is no need to remove them unless the front panel
is coming out.

AW



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Re: CRT part number in HP 85662 display section for 8566A, 8568B

 

Hi Guys,

I have done this with my CR70, and the CRT in my HP8505A.
It works very nicely. I pulled the socket off of the CRT,
and used the universal adapter, which is a bunch of micrograbber
clips, and connected to the filament, cathode, control grid, and
the focus grid for the G2 connection.

G2 needs to be the electrode that is closest to the control grid (G1).

The filament voltage on the 8505 is some where around 4.5V, and is
stated in the manual.

As to the other settings, pick any O'scope tube, a 5UP1, should do.

You will probably find that the emission is way low. Don't worry too
much about that. HP is pretty liberal in what they need. When you are
in the manual restore mode, you hold the button down until the beam current
drops, and then starts to rise again. Read the manual, it helps.

-Chuck Harris

John Miles wrote:

Hi, Mark --
You may find this page interesting: -- the
procedure has been done on at least one other 85662A since I wrote it up,
with good results. If you get the CR70 working, please post a detailed
account of how you did it, and I'll update the page. Depending on what
electrodes the CR70 needs to be connected to, the wires in the HV
compartment are probably the easiest way to hook it up.
There are a couple of different part numbers for the 85662A CRT, since it
was produced in at least two completely-different physical form factors.
You can search the Agilent site for the service manual .PDF (look for
85662-90086).
-- john, KE5FX

-----Original Message-----


Re: CRT part number in HP 85662 display section for 8566A, 8568B

John Miles
 

Hi, Mark --

You may find this page interesting: -- the
procedure has been done on at least one other 85662A since I wrote it up,
with good results. If you get the CR70 working, please post a detailed
account of how you did it, and I'll update the page. Depending on what
electrodes the CR70 needs to be connected to, the wires in the HV
compartment are probably the easiest way to hook it up.

There are a couple of different part numbers for the 85662A CRT, since it
was produced in at least two completely-different physical form factors.
You can search the Agilent site for the service manual .PDF (look for
85662-90086).

-- john, KE5FX

-----Original Message-----
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:07 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] CRT part number in HP 85662 display
section for 8566A, 8568B


I have a 85662 with a weak tube.

I finally managed to obtain a Sencore CR70 off eBay. I mean I have
bought 3 of the CR70 on eBay over the last 12 months, and the first
2 never turned up! Now cr70's aren't cheap, especially when you are
trying to ship them to Australia. I am so over being ripped off by
dodgy sellers that know it takes longer to ship surface than buyer
protection lasts. Moral of the story, don't ship surface to
Australia.

Anyway, I digress ;) in all the documentation I have, I can't find
the pinouts for the tube.

However, I do believe I have an equivalent part number: 170xb31

Could someone verify this for me?


CRT part number in HP 85662 display section for 8566A, 8568B

Mark
 

I have a 85662 with a weak tube.

I finally managed to obtain a Sencore CR70 off eBay. I mean I have
bought 3 of the CR70 on eBay over the last 12 months, and the first
2 never turned up! Now cr70's aren't cheap, especially when you are
trying to ship them to Australia. I am so over being ripped off by
dodgy sellers that know it takes longer to ship surface than buyer
protection lasts. Moral of the story, don't ship surface to
Australia.

Anyway, I digress ;) in all the documentation I have, I can't find
the pinouts for the tube.

However, I do believe I have an equivalent part number: 170xb31

Could someone verify this for me?


Many thanks,
Mark
VK2HMC


plastic feet locking strip on HP equipment.

Mark
 

Can someone please advise me what the plastic strip along the top of
circa 1980's HP equipment is called?

It usually covers the screws that hold the front panel on.

It also enables other test equipment feet to lock into the groove.

The strips come in a 3 different sizes, full size that fits 19" wide
chassis, a half width and a quarter width.

Why anyone would take these off and lose them is a mysery to me!

I am trying to find some of these 'strips', any ideas?


Best regards,
Mark.


Re: HP 7090A

 

Thank's Erik I appreciated the information very much.
I m still a fan of the old measuring HP equipment:).
regards
ON1EV

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., erik <elbicon@...>
wrote:

On Thursday 07 December 2006 21:15, on1ev wrote:
Hello ON1EV

There is a demonstration plot function which test most of the
circuits.
quote+-
- make sure there are six pens in the carousel (i do not think
that is
necessary .... did this with one pen before)
- apply power and set paper size
- load the paper
- press the Left and Right cursor arrow controls and shift
pushbutton (upper
right blue button) simultaneously
unquote

a demonstration plot with 3 waveforms will be shown .

This test will not test the I/O circuitry.

rgds,
Erik

- > hello,
I'm looking the way to make a self test on a HP 7090A measuring
plotter equipment ?

any help will be appreciated

cheers to all

ON1EV


Re: HP 7090A

 

On Thursday 07 December 2006 21:15, on1ev wrote:
Hello ON1EV

There is a demonstration plot function which test most of the circuits.
quote+-
- make sure there are six pens in the carousel (i do not think that is
necessary .... did this with one pen before)
- apply power and set paper size
- load the paper
- press the Left and Right cursor arrow controls and shift pushbutton (upper
right blue button) simultaneously
unquote

a demonstration plot with 3 waveforms will be shown .

This test will not test the I/O circuitry.

rgds,
Erik

- > hello,
I'm looking the way to make a self test on a HP 7090A measuring
plotter equipment ?

any help will be appreciated

cheers to all

ON1EV


HP 7090A

 

hello,
I'm looking the way to make a self test on a HP 7090A measuring
plotter equipment ?

any help will be appreciated

cheers to all

ON1EV


Re: HP 70001 mainframe

Geoff Blake
 

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, ericapple2004 wrote:

Hello HP specialists and others ,

My 70001 mainframe has such powerfull fan's , (BEARINGS are OK!!!)
that the noise equals my Nilfisk Hoover (Brand name's , suppose you
all know what i want to point out)

Never had an instrument in my lab that has such a noisy fan.

Beeing designed for rack/industrial use, the noise is probably normal.
Many years back I had a Sun 2 (2/120?) server in the lab, that
really took some beating. it was about 12" wide, 24" deep and 36"
high, and fitted with (IIRC) thirteen 5" fans, six in the power
supply alone. It was noisier than being in a tube train on the
Circle Line!

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hp 15 pin card extender

 

im looking for a 15 pin card extender
for trouble shooting a hp 310a wave analyzer
its working but still has some "issues"
and it would be nice to be able to scope
the cards
i fixed it so far by finding bad capacitors
with a meter "some of the small lytics were shorted"
and carefully tacking in some miniture lytics to replace
some twistlocks that have high leakage current in the bridge
drive circuit "active filter"
does anyone have a pdf of the manual for a late production
310a??


HP 70001 mainframe

 

Hello HP specialists and others ,

My 70001 mainframe has such powerfull fan's , (BEARINGS are OK!!!)
that the noise equals my Nilfisk Hoover (Brand name's , suppose you
all know what i want to point out)

Never had an instrument in my lab that has such a noisy fan.

Beeing designed for rack/industrial use, the noise is probably normal.

I noticed earlier 70001 instruments had NTC's to reduce the fan
voltage (and noise) , anybody has schematics or basic design that
was used ?
The printed circuit still has the unused space/circuit where the NTC
have to be located , I can see place for 2 ntc and 2 resistors (one
set for each fan ) and 1 in front probably for extra safety that used
to be there in earlier design .

The 70004 display mainframe that can be used together with the 70001
is designed very very silent ...

Many thanks,
Erik


Re: Workbench surface

 

Hi Steve,

To see what you are dealing with, turn on your oscilloscope, set its sweep
speed to 10ms/dividion, set its vertical deflection to 0.5 V/division, and
with one hand, grab the tip of your scope probe.

That signal on your screen is real, and has enough current to drive a 10 meg
to ground load. Now, imagine what that signal would be if your load
was 100 meg, or 1000 meg to ground.

Oh, and it doesn't matter what kind of lighting you are using, this is stray
coupling to the power line. If you use mains electricity, it is there.

-Chuck Harris

Steve wrote:

Thanks Mike and others for the advice, it's most helpful and educational.
I didn't realize that fluorescent lighting could be a problem. In any event, I'm not using that kind of lighting.
I will take a look at 3M and other mats, both for the floor and the bench top.
73,
Steve K8JQ
Mike wrote:
have been through this a couple of times in last 20 years,

a. Using a static mat from 3M or one of the top companies that supply
to HP and others is the best recommendation, those mats allow
static discharge at the best rate. Dont use an aluminium sheet to ground
as some people have tried.

b. If you have overhead fluoros then might need to reduce the mats 1M to 100K,
in my case the 1M meant the mat wasnt draining the field from the fluoro and
we blew many mosfet gates (the ones without protection zeners). If you are not
going to be handling anything without protection zeners then dont bother.

c. Have a region of interface between the static mat region and where you walk from
so some static can dissipate before you get to the mat. Like a 3m area which
is floor treated, floor mat is ideal but I find that carpet is ok if its treated twice a year with some spray on static treatment.

d. If you are handling a lot of very sensitive devices in most other places in the lab
where they might be stored but not worked on then a static controlled fan might
be helpful, cant recall the name but it has a ion source either mildly radioactive
or a power operated type. I dont use one myself but depends what you are handling,
others might comment on that.

cheers

mike




At 11:50 AM 3/12/06, you wrote:

There was a discussion regarding workbenches on this reflector back in October and I'd like to ask for some follow up advice.

I'm planning to replace an old workbench. Is there a top I can put on my new workbench that is ESD safe? Right now I have an ESD mat that I place on the workbench surface when appropriate.

Inasmuch as I'm going to be more or less starting from scratch, I thought I'd at least ask the question about an ESD-safe work surface.

Thoughts or advice out there?

Thanks.

Steve K8JQ




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Re: Wiltron

 

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Spectrum HP 8564E (upgrade) + Tracking source HP 85645A

voilelec
 

Sorry my last message was mysteriously truncated!



HP has a Firmware Upgrade (08560-60090) for 856xE



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From HP support:

---- Needed for last versions of TAM

---- Fixes FADC bug
---- Fixes SIG ID On/Off and zero span amplitude jump

---- Year 2000 bug fixed

---- Status part is UTG (no more kits)



Did somebody have EEPROM files for this upgrade?





My configuration is: Spectrum HP 8564E + Tracking source HP 85645A



920427 EPROM on tracking source HP 85645A

970326 EPROM on spectrum HP 8564E



First draft page on 8564E:
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This configuration works well (you have to configure as 8563e in
tracking, 64e not in menu)



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Microwave Mixer

jfowler306
 

Hi all. A bit off the HP theme, however need some help. I have a Time
63132 rf (active) mixer. It also has an alt. part number of DXM602. The
LO and RF appear to be in the 10-20GHz range. If anyone has, or can
direct me to where I can find specs. on this unit, I would really
appreciate it.
Eddy

W5WTN/K5IPA


Re: deskjet 895 cxi printer

Don Black
 

One stock fault in HP printers is the print head slide bar becoming sticky. That's the chrome rod about 1/4" dia that running across the printer. Try wiping it clean with a tissue, that usually clears the fault. It shows up as all kinds of errors.
Don Black.

Jerry Massengale wrote:

Greeting,
My favorite printer has stopped picking up sheets from the paper tray. Any suggestions or advice?
Jerry

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Re: Workbench surface

 

At 10:30 AM 6/12/06, you wrote:
I didn't realize that fluorescent lighting could be a problem. In any
event, I'm not using that kind of lighting.
I forgot to mention that it was only a real problem because it was quite low
over the bench and the cables to the lights wound around the back and side of
the bench, plus they were the old inductor type ballast and the large metal
housing might not have been well grounded. When a 20v max mosfet gate
regularly gets 27v at 50hz it doesnt last long but all other ICs were ok,
a drop in the mat resistor to 100k didnt upset any other handling and
dropped the field voltage from 27 to around 2.5

I will take a look at 3M and other mats, both for the floor and the
bench top.
Ah - I just checked my post, the '3m' later on referred to a 3 metre area
of transition (miniumu) from an unsafe to the fully safe area. For me this did not
need a 3M mat just an ordinary wool/cotton carpet which was treated with the same
chemical women use when ironing to stop their dresses sticking to their
panty hoses - it was *much* cheaper than the 3M or any other chemicals, I
actually still have a Bokhara Afghan rug, cost about $600 in the olde days when
these were being sold as "investments", still in one piece must have had it
for over 20years now, more utilitarian than worth hanging on the wall for a seance ;)
From what I recall, the chemical is just some ionic salt, perhaps even MgSO4 or
maybe some mix which was very slightly hygroscopic, or at least had some lower
resistance when dry at low humidity levels cant recall exactly. I dont
use it anymore as my smallest lab is for my use only and if I ever have any
very badly static sensitive devices on that 3M bench then my whole demeanor
changes dramatically :P

Cheers

Mike





73,

Steve K8JQ

Mike wrote:
have been through this a couple of times in last 20 years,

a. Using a static mat from 3M or one of the top companies that supply
to HP and others is the best recommendation, those mats allow
static discharge at the best rate. Dont use an aluminium sheet to ground
as some people have tried.

b. If you have overhead fluoros then might need to reduce the mats 1M to 100K,
in my case the 1M meant the mat wasnt draining the field from the fluoro and
we blew many mosfet gates (the ones without protection zeners). If you are not
going to be handling anything without protection zeners then dont bother.

c. Have a region of interface between the static mat region and where you walk from
so some static can dissipate before you get to the mat. Like a 3m area which
is floor treated, floor mat is ideal but I find that carpet is ok if its treated twice a
year with some spray on static treatment.

d. If you are handling a lot of very sensitive devices in most other places in the lab
where they might be stored but not worked on then a static controlled fan might
be helpful, cant recall the name but it has a ion source either mildly radioactive
or a power operated type. I dont use one myself but depends what you are handling,
others might comment on that.

cheers

mike




At 11:50 AM 3/12/06, you wrote:

There was a discussion regarding workbenches on this reflector back in
October and I'd like to ask for some follow up advice.

I'm planning to replace an old workbench. Is there a top I can put on my
new workbench that is ESD safe? Right now I have an ESD mat that I place
on the workbench surface when appropriate.

Inasmuch as I'm going to be more or less starting from scratch, I
thought I'd at least ask the question about an ESD-safe work surface.

Thoughts or advice out there?

Thanks.

Steve K8JQ







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Re: Workbench surface

Steve
 

Thanks Mike and others for the advice, it's most helpful and educational.

I didn't realize that fluorescent lighting could be a problem. In any event, I'm not using that kind of lighting.

I will take a look at 3M and other mats, both for the floor and the bench top.

73,

Steve K8JQ

Mike wrote:

have been through this a couple of times in last 20 years,
a. Using a static mat from 3M or one of the top companies that supply
to HP and others is the best recommendation, those mats allow
static discharge at the best rate. Dont use an aluminium sheet to ground
as some people have tried.
b. If you have overhead fluoros then might need to reduce the mats 1M to 100K,
in my case the 1M meant the mat wasnt draining the field from the fluoro and
we blew many mosfet gates (the ones without protection zeners). If you are not
going to be handling anything without protection zeners then dont bother.
c. Have a region of interface between the static mat region and where you walk from
so some static can dissipate before you get to the mat. Like a 3m area which
is floor treated, floor mat is ideal but I find that carpet is ok if its treated twice a year with some spray on static treatment.
d. If you are handling a lot of very sensitive devices in most other places in the lab
where they might be stored but not worked on then a static controlled fan might
be helpful, cant recall the name but it has a ion source either mildly radioactive
or a power operated type. I dont use one myself but depends what you are handling,
others might comment on that.
cheers
mike
At 11:50 AM 3/12/06, you wrote:

There was a discussion regarding workbenches on this reflector back in October and I'd like to ask for some follow up advice.

I'm planning to replace an old workbench. Is there a top I can put on my new workbench that is ESD safe? Right now I have an ESD mat that I place on the workbench surface when appropriate.

Inasmuch as I'm going to be more or less starting from scratch, I thought I'd at least ask the question about an ESD-safe work surface.

Thoughts or advice out there?

Thanks.

Steve K8JQ

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Re: deskjet 895 cxi printer

John Miles
 

Good site for that type of issue is . They
sell service kits for most HP and other models, at least for Laserjets.
Pickup rollers seem to be a common trouble spot.

-- john, KE5FX

-----Original Message-----
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]On Behalf Of Jerry
Massengale
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:39 PM
To: hp group
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] deskjet 895 cxi printer


Greeting,

My favorite printer has stopped picking up sheets from the
paper tray. Any suggestions or advice?

Jerry