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Re: Measuring Phase with Agilent E5062A ENA


 

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Indeed!

Yeah, unfortunately, the ENA won't do it.? Not sure if some of the new ones will or not..... I've been retired too long!

Still have to get back up your way... maybe in the spring!

Daun

On 11/17/2018 9:06 PM, Gedas wrote:

Hi Daun....long time no chat. Yup understand 100% but was hoping that the ENA had a function to do that for me. There are some "VNA's" that will do that for you. I guess this one will not hi-hi.

Gedas, W8BYA

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On 11/17/2018 8:54 PM, Daun Yeagley wrote:
Gedas, what you are seeing is "phase wrap".? The detectors in the VNA's can't resolve more than 360 degrees... 370 degrees looks the same as 10 degrees!
The only way you can do it is to count how many "wraps" you have, IF you can do it in a continuous sweep with no bridges over the wraps.
Hope this gets you started in understanding that!

Daun

On 11/17/2018 8:45 PM, Gedas wrote:

Can someone point me to some reading material to help me understand how to measure phase on my ENA?

I have the operators manual but it is not at all helpful. In short I chose a simple ~19" length RG-223 coaxial jumper as a starting point to help me better understand my instrument. I am having difficulty in getting the display to show phase shifts great then 180 degrees even though the Y-axis is indicating I have plenty of latitude, i.e., +/- 450 degrees etc.

I.e., below is a screen capture where I am showing the phase shift thru that jumper at 104MHz.....back of the napkin calculations show that in fact ~19" length of V.F. 0.66 cable should provide -90 degrees phase shift:

Things even work well when I double the frequency to 208 MHz and obtain a ~180 degree phase shift:

The issue is when I go slightly higher in frequency I would like to display phase shifts great then? -180 degrees. As soon as I go higher in frequency the plot jumps up to a positive 180 degree phase shift.

I would like to know if I can setup my ENA to display say -270 or -400 degree phase shifts. I have been using PHASE under the display options and do see options for POS PHASE, & EXPANDED PHASE. I was hoping expanded phase would do what I wanted but it did not. The manual does not discuss how to use these formats.


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