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Is is possible that you've already got something running that has allocated 00C? That would account for the:

IEF244I RDRF .00C .IEFRDER UNABLE TO ALLOCATE

error message. Do a "DISPLAY A":

d a
IEE821I 11.21.37 ACTIVE DISPLAY 069 C
PNO JOBNAME STEPNAME SUBT STAT PNO JOBNAME STEPNAME SUBT STAT
RDRF 00C WTRZ WTRZ
WTRF 00D WTRF 00E
001 INIT A,E

and see if you have maybe an existing RDR or RDRF active to 00C. I don't think I automatically started a reader to 00C, but one might have gotten started somehow.

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On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 03:52 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

I'm not sure why you want separator pages, they aren't as use in as virtual environment

I want them so that I can use HercPrt to render my output.

I'm not sure why you want separator pages, they aren't as use in as virtual environment.

May I suggest you look at . It knows a number of separator page formats (HASP, JES2, OS/360 external writer, and none), and automatically bursts jobs into unique files.

I am trying to use VTP to update some PROCs, and the lack of docs is slowing me down. Do any exist?

In lieu of that:

• how do I create a new member in a PDS?

• how do I insert lines into a member that I am editing?

Can I have a copy too, please?

This document is more valuable than I would have thought (as soon as I saw "planning" I thought it was for middle managers.

has details for all sorts of interesting questions, including how to get separators.

ok, let me fix this.

Can I do this WITHOUT retrofitting HASP?

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 01:40 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

Well, what task using the PROCLIB, the reader or the initiator? (Who allocates it?)

ok, you asked the right question.

from PDF page 147/document page PRO 9.

"Your procedure for the reader can include a DD statement that defines the procedure library."

//IEFPDSI DD .......

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 01:40 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

Well, what task using the PROCLIB, the reader or the initiator? (Who allocates it?)

A good question, I see where you were steering me, thanks!

Neither the proc for the RDR nor the INIT has a DD for any proclib.

There's an error ot the USER line... it is 15M 16M , not 14M

I had to increase storage from my initial 8M 14M , up to 15M 16M, but I forgot update my notes accordingly.
The rest should be correct.

Cheers.

Hi... sure!

USER VS1R67 VS1R67 15M 14M G
OPTION ECMODE
*IPL 148
CONSOLE 01F 3215
SPOOL 00C 2540 READ A
SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH A
SPOOL 00E 1403 A
* Dedicated Punch cards
DEDICATE 10C 30C
* Dedicated Print Devices
DEDICATE 30E 30E
* Dedicated Tape Devices
DEDICATE 480 480
* Dedicated DASD
DEDICATE 148 700
DEDICATE 149 701
DEDICATE 14C 702
DEDICATE 14D 703
DEDICATE 151 704

There you go.

Thank you!
Cheers

Show us what your VM directory entry for VS1 looks like?

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 12:07?PM Alejandro olivan Alvarez <
alejandro.olivan.alvarez@...> wrote:

Hi!

I've set up VS1 r6.7 under VM/CE.. and it almost works perfect!
Unlike DOS/VS I can let the VM run in the background and send jobs to
it... but, this time the issue is that the reader, at 00c, configured as
SPOOL, doesn't work.
However, if instead, I DEDICATE a reader, it does work.
This means that jobs cannot be punched from a VM user, which is quite
ashow stopper.

Here's how it looks like on the log:

094610 0000 SF ,10C
094610 4000 IEF543I 10C RDR FLUSHING JOBSTREAM AFTER JOB
094610 4000 IEF039I 10C RDR WAITING FOR WORK
094611 4000 IEF403I HELLOCBF STARTED TIME=09.46.11 P01
094611 0020 IEC130I SYSLIB DD STATEMENT MISSING P01
094613 4000 IEF404I HELLOCBF ENDED TIME=09.46.13 P01
094613 4200 IEF049I HELLOCBF ON DEVICE 00E
094613 4200 IEF868I 00E WTR WAITING FOR WORK
094613 4000 IEF005I PARTITION WAITING FOR WORK P01
094636 0000 SF ,00C
094636 4200 IEF244I RDRF .00C .IEFRDER UNABLE TO ALLOCATE

For some reason, IEFRDER on job RDRF cannot allocate 00C (SPOOL) but does
with 10C (DEDICATE).

Has anyone any clue on what could be happening?

Cheers.

Hi!

I've set up VS1 r6.7 under VM/CE.. and it almost works perfect!
Unlike DOS/VS I can let the VM run in the background and send jobs to it... but, this time the issue is that the reader, at 00c, configured as SPOOL, doesn't work.
However, if instead, I DEDICATE a reader, it does work.
This means that jobs cannot be punched from a VM user, which is quite ashow stopper.

Here's how it looks like on the log:

094610 0000 SF ,10C
094610 4000 IEF543I 10C RDR FLUSHING JOBSTREAM AFTER JOB
094610 4000 IEF039I 10C RDR WAITING FOR WORK
094611 4000 IEF403I HELLOCBF STARTED TIME=09.46.11 P01
094611 0020 IEC130I SYSLIB DD STATEMENT MISSING P01
094613 4000 IEF404I HELLOCBF ENDED TIME=09.46.13 P01
094613 4200 IEF049I HELLOCBF ON DEVICE 00E
094613 4200 IEF868I 00E WTR WAITING FOR WORK
094613 4000 IEF005I PARTITION WAITING FOR WORK P01
094636 0000 SF ,00C
094636 4200 IEF244I RDRF .00C .IEFRDER UNABLE TO ALLOCATE

For some reason, IEFRDER on job RDRF cannot allocate 00C (SPOOL) but does with 10C (DEDICATE).

Has anyone any clue on what could be happening?

Cheers.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 05:14 AM, Doug Wegscheid wrote:

My first hurdle is the PROCLIB. On MVS, you can add a PROCLIB by changing the
PROC that runs JES2.

Near as I can tell, on VS1, I would need to add all the PROCs to SYS1.PROCLIB.

Well, what task using the PROCLIB, the reader or the initiator? (Who allocates it?)

Can one get separator pages on VS1 printed output with retrofitting HASP?

How bad is retrofitting HASP? I saw the doc in the files section (though no tape).

I want to add the SYSCPK to my VS1.

My first hurdle is the PROCLIB. On MVS, you can add a PROCLIB by changing the PROC that runs JES2.

Near as I can tell, on VS1, I would need to add all the PROCs to SYS1.PROCLIB.

Is that the case or am I missing something?

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 08:33 PM, René Ferland wrote:

To my knowledge, that system contained licensed software which possibly
explains why the link is broken.

aha .... ok, ok .... in such a case then I agree it makes sense

If you managed to get through the 6.7 sysgen process and get a working, license-issues free, system... then I definitely would like to give it a try! :-)

Thank you very much!

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 08:49 AM, Alejandro olivan Alvarez wrote:

Does someone keeps a set of 'working great' :-D VS1 6.7 (with compilers :-) DASDs to share?

I do and I will send it to you if you wish.

I've tried to find that referenced VS1 system on a link on the CBT tape site, but the link is broken (I guess all that is very old, and VS1 at that moment was stated as 'almost extinct').

To my knowledge, that system contained licensed software which possibly explains why the link is broken.

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

Hi.

Does someone keeps a set of 'working great' :-D VS1 6.7 (with compilers :-) DASDs to share?

While I've been trying to get it sysgened, I see there's way to much issues to overcome (specially for a newcome), and, while I would definitely like to someday have a nice working sysgen procedure to end up with an useable VS1 system (one with compilers where run jobs), I don't foresee that on a near future, and I would like to play with VS1 under VM (like I saw in Moshix video).
I've tried to find that referenced VS1 system on a link on the CBT tape site, but the link is broken (I guess all that is very old, and VS1 at that moment was stated as 'almost extinct'), I think it could be nice to have some working DASDs and a working VM user directory entry around, to make it easier to take a look at VS1 withouth going through a sysgen.

Best regards.

The //JOBCAT should be used when using MVS as your "generating" system.

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:16?PM Doug Wegscheid <dwegscheid@...>
wrote:

from the 6.7 00README:

```
g06-jobcard-nonstarter.jcl
g06-jobcard-starter.jcl
Jobs to modify the "JOBCARD" stage 1 sysgen macro in SYS1.AGENLIB. Run
one
or the other, depending on your circumstances: the "nonstarter" version
if
you're using MVS or some other system that supports VSAM as your
generating
system, the "starter" version if you're using the VS1 6.0 starter system
as
your generating system. The "starter" version adds a "JOBCAT" DD
statement
to each stage 2 job, the "nonstarter" version doesn't.
```

I am reading the jobs as doing the opposite WRT //JOBCAT. Are the jobs
wrong, or the docs?