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Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
All of my manuals came from other people including bitsavers.
A few of them were scanned by other people from some of my old paper manuals but all should be available from normal browser search. I did clean up some of the file names. You need a list of VS1 manuals so other people can find what they need and to supply what they can't find. I started cleaning up my VS1 manuals folder to drop duplicates and remove ones only for SVS or MVS and to add a few Assembler and CoBOL manuals. I don't know which other compilers manuals are needed and didn't add any hardware manuals. I kept old releases of VS1 manuals in the folder. Old is better than none, .boo files I have are much too current to be closely related to VS1. Somewhere I have IBM first hardware manuals CD. It's in .pdf format. My VS1 manuals folder now has 70 manuals. I started to OCR ones that hadn't already been done. |
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other missing library SYS1.BRODCAST
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On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 01:25:38 PM MST, [email protected] Notification <[email protected]> wrote:
The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. - /SVS Rel. 1.7K/zdls17_svs-1.7-unloaded-dlibs_2020-07-29.zip By: Mark Waterbury Description: DLIBs for OS/VS2 Rel. 1.7K SVS, unloaded with IEBCOPY. Note that this is missing SYS1.ACMDLIB, SYS1.AHELP and SYS1.AUADS, so at the moment, TSO cannot be included in any SVS SYSGEN using these DLIBs. Otherwise, seems okay. |
Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
Try to IPL from the starter system - do not remember reply to IEA150A SPECIFY HARDCPY
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On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 07:37:28 AM MST, somitcw via groups.io <somitcw@...> wrote:
From my poor memory of over 40 years age, VS1 rel.6 was a solid system. Suggestion: But, some people might want to update it by adding products and fixes.? If anyone does, please call it something else like VS1 rel.6-plus or other name so the original it kept intact.? Just my opinion. Including source and install files for any additions would be nice.? Some copues might need DELINK0 ? Copying the compilers from MFT/MVT might be nice. If you copy SORT from MFT/MVT, please fix the SORTWK addressing.? Using absolute disk address squeezed down to one byte for the cylinder and an entire byte for the track in the table limits the disk size to 255 cylinders.? i.e. 2311 or 2314. Using 11 bits for cylinder would allow disks with 2047 cylinders. Changing to table from 2 byte entries to 4 byte could drop all conversion. Switching to relative track numbers would need multiplies and divides to add tiny logic and overhead but match maximum data set size perfectly. . SYS1.SAMPLIB(ICKSADSF) could be replaced with rel. 16. For batch ICKDSF, rel. 13 might work if it plays nice with VS1 rel.6 UCBs and device support.? We have install files for for a couple of releases. Assembler IFOX00 could be copied from MVS. Perhaps SMP4 from MVS? Most utilities could be copied from VS1 rel.7 but watch out for licensed products.? PRDMP and stand alone dump could be contaminated with BSEPP for 4KB pages?? I don't know. Other utilities should also be checked if copied. Other products might be linkage-editor and loader ( Program Management ) from either VS1 rel.7 or MVS.. EREP and MICR from install files.? Since Hercules doesn't support diskettes or OCR readers, MICR wouldn't help much. Adding support for more devices and copying the VS1 rel.7 PAGETUNE command might be dreaming too large. Adding TSO or TONE would go from large dreaming to hallucination. Even worse, finding a CICS replacement to find and run the potato package from Idaho Auditors would bring back memories. |
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Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
Mark,
I notice that g09-parmlib.jcl adds SYS2.LINKLIB to parmlib members LNKLST00 & IEAAPF00, but this dataset doesn't appear to have been created in g05-allocate-sysres.jcl. Chris -- <cjar1950@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 20:57:30 -0800 "Mark Waterbury" <mark.s.waterbury@...> wrote: Gary, |
Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
That's a pretty good list ... looks like most of them came from bitsavers?
When OS/VS first emerged, there was a lot of "common code" maintained between OS/VS1 and OS/VS2, so many of the manuals just say "OS/VS" as they pretty much pertained to both versions. VS1 and SVS remained quite close, as far as the code base, and so many of the manuals were shared. As OS/VS2 continued to evolve into MVS, it started to diverge and we see more separate manuals. Most of those manuals you listed, though for earlier versions of OS/VS1, still pertain to VS1 Rel. 6.0, for the most part ... of course they do not include newer features added to subsequent releases of VS1. Unfortunately, OS/VS1, and OS/VS2 rel. 1 and even up through MVS 3.8, were all well before the advent of IBM BookManager books (.boo files) and later Adobe Acrobat .pdf files made available by IBM Corp., so we are at the mercy of whatever people can manage to find and get scanned and converted to .pdf ... |
Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
While hunting for VS1 manuals, I found that most were labeled OS_VS with
each being for either VS1+SVS, VS1+MVS2, or VS1+MVS3. Might be some VM? I didn't include hardware manuals, Prin.of.Op., assembler, or compilers manuals. Is there a complete set anywhere? My VS1 Manuals folder has some extra releases and other weirdness. Many probably need to be OCRed. The folder currently has: 6,301,987 GC20-1752-0_OS_VS1_Features_Supplement_Aug72.pdf 16,922,225 GC24-5090-1_OS_VS1_Planning_and_Use_Guide_Jan73.pdf 8,222,105 GC24-5091-36_OSVS1pgm_Dec73.pdf 9,759,995 GC24-5099-4_OS_VS1_JCL_Reference_Rel_7_Jan79.pdf 6,990,069 GC24-5100-4_OS_VS1_JCL_Services_Rel_6.7_Jan79.pdf 9,493,090 GC26-3783-1_OS_VS_Data_Management_Services_Guide_Sep72.pdf 3,366,259 GC26-3784-1_OS_VS_Checkpoint_Restart_Jul72.pdf 4,470,867 GC26-3784-5_OS_VS_Checkpoint_Restart_Rel_3_Feb75.pdf 9,520,655 GC26-3793-1_OS_VS_Data_Management_Macro_Instructions_Sep72.pdf 7,399,675 GC26-3795-0_OS_VS_Tape_Labels_Jul72.pdf 3,362,108 GC26-3799-0_OS_VS_Virtual_Storage_Access_Method_VSAM_Planning_Guide_Jul72.pdf 5,095,243 GC26-3799-1_OS_VS_Virtual_Storage_Access_Method_Planning_Guide_Jan73.pdf 18,966,758 GC26-3813-3_OS-VS.LinkEdt_May75.pdf 12,308,739 GC26-3813-3_OS_VS_Linkage_Editor_and_Loader_May75.pdf 8,898,792 GC26-3813-5_OS_VS_Linkage_Editor_and_Loader_Aug78.pdf 8,848,149 GC26-3838-1_OS_VS_Virtual_Storage_Access_Method_Programmers_Guide_Feb75.pdf 11,789,018 GC26-3838-3_OS_VS_VSAM_Programmers_Guide_Rel_3.7.pdf 5,163,729 GC26-3842-0_Planning_for_Enhanced_VSAM_under_OS_VS_Jan75.pdf 2,049,014 GC27-0052-0_HASP_II_Version_4_Users_Guide_Sep76.pdf 12,454,790 GC27-6979-1_OS_VS_Supervisor_Services_and_Macro_Instructions_Sep72.pdf 42,807,275 GC27-6980-4_OSVS_BTAM_SRL_Mar82.a.pdf 34,547,926 GC27-6980-4_OSVS_BTAM_SRL_Mar82.b.pdf 564,774 GC27-6987-6_VTAM.Intro.djvu 9,192,330 GC27-6992-0_HASP_II_Version_4_System_Programmers_Guide_Sep76.pdf 6,160,144 GC28-0617-2_OS_VS_JCL_Services_Dec72.pdf 9,269,169 GC28-0618-2_OS_VS_JCL_Reference_May73.pdf 6,172,806 GC28-0631-1_OS_VS_Data_Management_for_System_Programmers_Sep72.pdf 12,225,347 GC28-0633-1_OS_VS_Service_Aids_Sep72.pdf 2,519,921 GC28-0638-1_OS_VS_SYS1.LOGREC_Error_Recording_Dec72.pdf 10,279,343 GC28-0640-1_OS_VS_Dynamic_Support_System_Nov73.pdf 23,625,397 GC28-0673-5_OS.VS.System.Modification.Program.System.Programmers.Guide.Oct78.pdf 2,854,784 GC28-0673-6.OS.VS.SMP.SysPgmrGde.Sep80OCR.pdf 15,351,080 GC28-0688-2-SPL-VTAM-2.Dec77.pdf 2,658,144 GC28-0688-2_SPL_VTAM_Level2_Dec77OCR.pdf 6,107,885 GC35-0004-2_OS_VS_System_Management_Facilities_Jan73.pdf 23,497,536 GC35-0005-3_OS_VS_Utilities_Rel_2_Jul74.pdf 14,638,583 GC38-1002-1_OS_VS_Message_Library_VS2_System_Messages_Rel_1.6_Jun73.pdf 6,534,846 GC38-1005-2_OS_VS_Message_Library_Utilities_Messages_Jan73.pdf 4,555,042 GC38-1006-2_OS_VS_Message_Library_Service_Aids_and_OLTEP_Messages_Dec72.pdf 3,813,945 GC38-1008-0_OS_VS_Message_Library_VS2_System_Codes_sep72.pdf 13,990,318 GT27-6979-02_OS_VS_Supervisor_Services_and_Macro_Instructions_Jul73.pdf 24,964,702 GY27-7255-0_HASP_II_Version_4_Logic_Sep76.pdf 11,165,642 SY33-8041-0_OS_VS1_Assembler_Logic_Jul72.pdf 458,880,206 bytes 43 File(s) |
Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
From my poor memory of over 40 years age,
VS1 rel.6 was a solid system. Suggestion: But, some people might want to update it by adding products and fixes. If anyone does, please call it something else like VS1 rel.6-plus or other name so the original it kept intact. Just my opinion. Including source and install files for any additions would be nice. Some copues might need DELINK0 ? Copying the compilers from MFT/MVT might be nice. If you copy SORT from MFT/MVT, please fix the SORTWK addressing. Using absolute disk address squeezed down to one byte for the cylinder and an entire byte for the track in the table limits the disk size to 255 cylinders. i.e. 2311 or 2314. Using 11 bits for cylinder would allow disks with 2047 cylinders. Changing to table from 2 byte entries to 4 byte could drop all conversion. Switching to relative track numbers would need multiplies and divides to add tiny logic and overhead but match maximum data set size perfectly. . SYS1.SAMPLIB(ICKSADSF) could be replaced with rel. 16. For batch ICKDSF, rel. 13 might work if it plays nice with VS1 rel.6 UCBs and device support. We have install files for for a couple of releases. Assembler IFOX00 could be copied from MVS. Perhaps SMP4 from MVS? Most utilities could be copied from VS1 rel.7 but watch out for licensed products. PRDMP and stand alone dump could be contaminated with BSEPP for 4KB pages? I don't know. Other utilities should also be checked if copied. Other products might be linkage-editor and loader ( Program Management ) from either VS1 rel.7 or MVS.. EREP and MICR from install files. Since Hercules doesn't support diskettes or OCR readers, MICR wouldn't help much. Adding support for more devices and copying the VS1 rel.7 PAGETUNE command might be dreaming too large. Adding TSO or TONE would go from large dreaming to hallucination. Even worse, finding a CICS replacement to find and run the potato package from Idaho Auditors would bring back memories. |
Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
Thank you working on it now, Mike!!
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On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 07:27:36 AM MST, Mike <antebios1153@...> wrote:
Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Waterbury Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H390-OSVS1] OS/VS1 with dlibs Gary, I have now uploaded a set of OS/VS1 Rel. 6.0 DLIBs (on virtual tape, unloaded via IEBCOPY) to the "Files" area of this list, under the "OS/VS1 Rel. 60" folder. Enjoy, Mark |
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Thank you.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Waterbury Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H390-OSVS1] OS/VS1 with dlibs Gary, I have now uploaded a set of OS/VS1 Rel. 6.0 DLIBs (on virtual tape, unloaded via IEBCOPY) to the "Files" area of this list, under the "OS/VS1 Rel. 60" folder. Enjoy, Mark |
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Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
I have a copy of Rudolfo Cozzi with all of the program products removed, with a home grown interactive system likeCICS. Do not have DLIBs, if you have a copy of them, I need to do a sysgen to add 2314 sort work packs.Language processors got from MVS then work fine.
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On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 07:59:45 PM MST, giacobbi@... <giacobbi@...> wrote:
AFAIK in the 'good ole days' there were two versions of OS/VS1 downloadable from Hercules users. Both originated from Rudolfo Cozzi, Rio de la Plata University. The first had DLIBs and other kinds of wonders, including variuos programming languages and a working CICS. But it was 'tainted' by BPE extension; so it was soon replaced by a light versions without DLIBs CICS and other goodies. Just a few lucky pople could get the first version; I know 'very' well one of them who generated a 3380 version (the original was on 3375 DASDs), and played with CICS. Now that guy likes better playing with more modern OS, for example z/OS 2.4.;-) Regards |
Re: OS/VS1 with dlibs
AFAIK in the 'good ole days' there were two versions of OS/VS1 downloadable from Hercules users.
Both originated from Rudolfo Cozzi, Rio de la Plata University. The first had DLIBs and other kinds of wonders, including variuos programming languages and a working CICS. But it was 'tainted' by BPE extension; so it was soon replaced by a light versions without DLIBs CICS and other goodies. Just a few lucky pople could get the first version; I know 'very' well one of them who generated a 3380 version (the original was on 3375 DASDs), and played with CICS. Now that guy likes better playing with more modern OS, for example z/OS 2.4.;-) Regards |