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Short version: is the CBT 476 corrupted or there is a job to extract further, so that these PDS members of CBT429.FILE476? (such as MACLIB, CNTL,... etc.) is generated as library for me to use as LISP program and JCLLIB etc.??



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Longer version on accessing CBT tape mostly but NOT CBT 476 on Lisp:

After 10 years (last time I found I am asking for this in a yahoo group!), I finally see some CBT tapes and hence for most it seems to work as follows:

1. Under TK5 update 3, you download the dasd and then follow the instruction to override the related .conf (by zip -o)
2. Then after running TK5
3.? modify and submit the job as recommended
? ? ?(Strangely the ISPF cc-cc cut can cut to the clipboard but cannot insert ... hence have to retype some JCL).
4. All ok and catalog
5. ISPF =3.4 CBT429?
6. Found all the CBT tape mostly work (in the sense you can see allocation result of them)

7. some of these have no allocation info and if you s it it got error and if you e it it will say dataset not on catalog
8. But for 476, it does have allocation info and one can get into it by e i.e.?CBT429.FILE476(@FILE476) is readable
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10. Now what to do next?? In some other PDS I browse they are just some JCL, source etc.? But the other files here are odd e.g.

CBT429.FILE476(CNTL):



CBT429.FILE476(MACLIB)



... many of these file names under this PDS seems to be itself also a library as well.??




11. For this tape is there another step I need to run to extract these "libraries" into proper libraries.

12. I must have missed one tool or one JCL somewhere to extract these:

They are XMIT archives.
You need to use the RECEIVE command to extract them.
Regarding LISP: it's meant for TSO/E and VS FORTRAN libraries, so it's a no-no for MVS 3.8j.

Marco

Hi,
?for these format files you need to 'receive' them

see member FILE476.PDS(?RECEIVE)
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τσ尘

Oh.? So obvious once τσ尘?pointed it out!

I somehow see that there must be a JCL by looking at the names that look like library names.? Do not know why I jump around files just miss the key 2 files.?

As said, the solution is always there, just need a whole decade (not joking I tried CBT in 2014).? You just have to find it by looking in the right places.

P.S.? I did now generate the LISP libraries, but the next step is harder as it seems it used a lot of spaces.?

+ZIL0001 NO STORAGE AVAILABLE FOR ZIL INITIALIZATION.

Originally I think I will work where to find the storage after my docker, NJE work first.? But per Macro it is not possible for my environment sadly. No TSO/E.? BTW, for VS Fortran library, the doc did say to just use FORTLIB.? ...? Still no TSO/E ... Hence,?1/2 solution is not a solution.? May have to drop it.?

Still, CBT is now accessible.? Case of running LISP under MVS 3.8 for the moment sadly close.? But still Horray!? And thanks all.

Hi

an off-topic question to Marco,

What happened to the utilisp you got working under TSO?

Your github account seems to have vanished.

To be able to move forward you need TSO/E or the ability (which I don't have) to substantially modify the source. I didn't find any other interested and I deleted everything. Now I have very little time to dedicate to these things.

Sorry

Marco