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Multiple OSA define


 

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8 development?

Thanks in advance.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 10:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Ian Shorter wrote:

Brian, what version of Hercules are you using? There was a fix to the
develop branch at the end of August 2024 that corrected a problem in
Hercules' QDIO code:

*

The issue was raised relating to a zLinux guest, but a z/OS guest
would presumably also be affected. The effect on zLinux was an abend,
perhaps the effect on z/OS is confusion and giving up?
Good catch, Ian! I had forgotten about that fix.

So yeah: Brian? What version of Hercules are you using? Official 4.7? Or development 4.8?

You might want to try your large (ftp?) using QETH/OSA again, but using Herc 4.8 Development instead. It might work better due to the EQBS and SQBS instruction fixes. (And it would be a good confirmation test for us too!)

If you've never built Hercules for yourself before, use Bill Lewis's excellent Hercules Helper script. It makes building Hercules a breeze on both Linux or Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


 

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know
how to get to the development branch. Would you please tell
me how to access 4.8 development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


 

Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8
development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


 

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Hi Mike,

make sure you have git on your system. Go to a terminal, shell, prompt, or what else you might call it.

do:

git clone?

after that finishes, you will have a directory called hercules-helper

cd hercules-helper

now run the script hercules-buildall.sh

./hercules-buildall.sh --flavor=sdl-hyperion

it will do almost all the work for you, and instruct you to do things when necessary.?

best regards,

搁别苍é.

On 21 Jan 2025, at 15:00, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via?
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to?
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8?
development?

You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
http://www.softdevlabs.com
mail: fish@...













 

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Will that get me the 4.8 development version

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rvjansen@... via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

?

Hi Mike,

?

make sure you have git on your system. Go to a terminal, shell, prompt, or what else you might call it.

?

do:

?

git clone?

?

after that finishes, you will have a directory called hercules-helper

?

cd hercules-helper

?

now run the script hercules-buildall.sh

?

/hercules-buildall.sh --flavor=sdl-hyperion

?

it will do almost all the work for you, and instruct you to do things when necessary.?

?

best regards,

?

搁别苍é.



On 21 Jan 2025, at 15:00, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:

?


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From:?
[email protected]?<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via?
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To:?
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:


Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to?
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8?
development?


You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...












?


 

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I have the help stuff, what I need is the 4.8 development version.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rvjansen@... via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

?

Hi Mike,

?

make sure you have git on your system. Go to a terminal, shell, prompt, or what else you might call it.

?

do:

?

git clone?

?

after that finishes, you will have a directory called hercules-helper

?

cd hercules-helper

?

now run the script hercules-buildall.sh

?

/hercules-buildall.sh --flavor=sdl-hyperion

?

it will do almost all the work for you, and instruct you to do things when necessary.?

?

best regards,

?

搁别苍é.



On 21 Jan 2025, at 15:00, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:

?


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From:?
[email protected]?<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via?
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To:?
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:


Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to?
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8?
development?


You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...












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I don't know how else to ask for the development 4.8 version of Hercules. Does the help know I want it? And will it compile it if I don't have the source on my PC?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Ward
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to <-----------------------------------------------------
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8 <--------------------------------------------------------
development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


 

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and, did you run it? I needed to run it yesterday on a new raspi and it checked out?4.8.0.11374-SDL-DEV-g8c4ee09e for me, which is on the develop branch, and it can be tweaked to checkout commits you want.

best,

搁别苍é.

On 21 Jan 2025, at 15:36, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:

I have the help stuff, what I need is the 4.8 development version.
?
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?rvjansen@...?via?
Sent:?Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:20 AM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define
?
Hi Mike,
?
make sure you have git on your system. Go to a terminal, shell, prompt, or what else you might call it.
?
do:
?
git clone?
?
after that finishes, you will have a directory called hercules-helper
?
cd hercules-helper
?
now run the script hercules-buildall.sh
?
/hercules-buildall.sh --flavor=sdl-hyperion
?
it will do almost all the work for you, and instruct you to do things when necessary.?
?
best regards,
?
搁别苍é.


On 21 Jan 2025, at 15:00, Mike Ward <antebios1153@...> wrote:
?

Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From:?
[email protected]?<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via?
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To:?
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:


Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to?
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8?
development?

You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail:?fish@...












?



 

Well, first of all you need to know whether you're using Windows or some other non-Windows operating system like some version of Linux, since there are two different flavors of "Hercules Helper": one for Windows and one for Linux:

* Linux:
* Windows:

All information on how to use it is on each of the above web pages. Just scroll down the page and you'll see it.

Simply "git clone" the appropriate repository (Windows or Linux) and enter the appropriate command, and Voilà! Instant Hercules!

I believe the default for Hercules Helper is to always build the latest and greatest development version of Hercules.

So the first thing you will need is "git": the tool that allows you to clone git source code repositories. Once you have that on your system, then you simply clone the Windows or Linux version of "Hercules Helper", and follow the previously mentioned instructions.

That's it!

Hercules Helper will handle everything else. It will install Microsoft Visual Studio if needed, clone the appropriate Hercules source code repository, and walk you through, step by step, with building Hercules for you.


IN SUMMARY:

Step 1: install git on your system.
Step 2: use git to clone Hercules Helper.
Step 3: read the Hercules Helper web page
to learn what command you need to
enter.
Step 4: enter that command.
Step 5: take a coffee break while Hercules
Helper does its thing.
Step 6: Begin using your newly built Hercules!

Easy peasy.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
Ward via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 6:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define
Importance: High


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8
development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...












 

I had no idea that all that was involved. Thank you for the explanation.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Well, first of all you need to know whether you're using Windows or some other non-Windows operating system like some version of Linux, since there are two different flavors of "Hercules Helper": one for Windows and one for Linux:

* Linux:
* Windows:

All information on how to use it is on each of the above web pages. Just scroll down the page and you'll see it.

Simply "git clone" the appropriate repository (Windows or Linux) and enter the appropriate command, and Voilà! Instant Hercules!

I believe the default for Hercules Helper is to always build the latest and greatest development version of Hercules.

So the first thing you will need is "git": the tool that allows you to clone git source code repositories. Once you have that on your system, then you simply clone the Windows or Linux version of "Hercules Helper", and follow the previously mentioned instructions.

That's it!

Hercules Helper will handle everything else. It will install Microsoft Visual Studio if needed, clone the appropriate Hercules source code repository, and walk you through, step by step, with building Hercules for you.


IN SUMMARY:

Step 1: install git on your system.
Step 2: use git to clone Hercules Helper.
Step 3: read the Hercules Helper web page
to learn what command you need to
enter.
Step 4: enter that command.
Step 5: take a coffee break while Hercules
Helper does its thing.
Step 6: Begin using your newly built Hercules!

Easy peasy.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
Ward via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 6:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define
Importance: High


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8
development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...












 

I got git, but what do I use? Git Bash, git gui, or git command?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Well, first of all you need to know whether you're using Windows or some other non-Windows operating system like some version of Linux, since there are two different flavors of "Hercules Helper": one for Windows and one for Linux:

* Linux:
* Windows:

All information on how to use it is on each of the above web pages. Just scroll down the page and you'll see it.

Simply "git clone" the appropriate repository (Windows or Linux) and enter the appropriate command, and Voilà! Instant Hercules!

I believe the default for Hercules Helper is to always build the latest and greatest development version of Hercules.

So the first thing you will need is "git": the tool that allows you to clone git source code repositories. Once you have that on your system, then you simply clone the Windows or Linux version of "Hercules Helper", and follow the previously mentioned instructions.

That's it!

Hercules Helper will handle everything else. It will install Microsoft Visual Studio if needed, clone the appropriate Hercules source code repository, and walk you through, step by step, with building Hercules for you.


IN SUMMARY:

Step 1: install git on your system.
Step 2: use git to clone Hercules Helper.
Step 3: read the Hercules Helper web page
to learn what command you need to
enter.
Step 4: enter that command.
Step 5: take a coffee break while Hercules
Helper does its thing.
Step 6: Begin using your newly built Hercules!

Easy peasy.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
Ward via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 6:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define
Importance: High


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8
development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...












 

Hello Mike,

Am 21.01.2025 um 17:11 schrieb Mike Ward <antebios1153@...>:

I got git, but what do I use? Git Bash, git gui, or git command?
git command.

It talks to github.com to copy the data to your local storage.

:wq! PoC


 

I have the Hercules helper already, but it won't get the hercules SDL 4.8 development repository. I'm on Windows 11. What I have been asking is how do I get the 4.8 development repository of Hercules SDL?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Well, first of all you need to know whether you're using Windows or some other non-Windows operating system like some version of Linux, since there are two different flavors of "Hercules Helper": one for Windows and one for Linux:

* Linux:
* Windows:

All information on how to use it is on each of the above web pages. Just scroll down the page and you'll see it.

Simply "git clone" the appropriate repository (Windows or Linux) and enter the appropriate command, and Voilà! Instant Hercules!

I believe the default for Hercules Helper is to always build the latest and greatest development version of Hercules.

So the first thing you will need is "git": the tool that allows you to clone git source code repositories. Once you have that on your system, then you simply clone the Windows or Linux version of "Hercules Helper", and follow the previously mentioned instructions.

That's it!

Hercules Helper will handle everything else. It will install Microsoft Visual Studio if needed, clone the appropriate Hercules source code repository, and walk you through, step by step, with building Hercules for you.


IN SUMMARY:

Step 1: install git on your system.
Step 2: use git to clone Hercules Helper.
Step 3: read the Hercules Helper web page
to learn what command you need to
enter.
Step 4: enter that command.
Step 5: take a coffee break while Hercules
Helper does its thing.
Step 6: Begin using your newly built Hercules!

Easy peasy.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
Ward via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 6:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define
Importance: High


Ok, I'm really stupid. I don't know how to download it to rebuild it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fish Fish via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Multiple OSA define

Mike Ward wrote:

Mr. Fish. I don't know much about Github so I don't know how to get to
the development branch. Would you please tell me how to access 4.8
development?
You need to build it for yourself using Hercules Helper for Windows.

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...