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Re: Error received with ICKDSF
Fish, you found it!? The folder properties are RO so when the file was created, it inherited read-only status.? In fact, Hercules reported it:and I missed it. 21:42:31.914 00007548 HHC00476I 0:0344 CKD64 file D:/VM370CE/DISK/MVS38/KICKS0.344: opened r/o I'm using shadowing and completely missed this.? Now, to start over... Thanks to both you and Jay. On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:49 PM Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote: Jim Snellen wrote: --
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Re: Error received with ICKDSF
Jim Snellen wrote:
[...] ... SENSE = 10020000 082B4010 00000000...Sense byte 0 = X'10' = Equipment Check. Sense byte 1 = X'02' = Write Inhibited. Are you sure your Hercules dasd image isn't marked read-only? (If not in Windows, then perhaps in your Herc config file?) -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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Re: Error received with ICKDSF
I did that.? The third bullet shows where I take it away from Hercules.
I tried with the volume mounted to MVS but ICKDSF didn't like it.? It gave me the message: ICK31049I UNITADDRESS SPECIFIED FOR VOLUME MOUNTED ON-LINE. So, I issued a VARY 344 OFFLINE d u,dasd,,340,8? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
22.20.54? ? ? ? ? ?IEE450I 22.20.54 UNIT STATUS 522? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
?UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE? ?UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE??
?340? 3350 O? ? ? ?CBT000 PRIV/RSDNT 341? 3350 O? ? ? ?CBT001 PRIV/RSDNT
?342? 3350 O? ? ? ?CBT002 PRIV/RSDNT 343? 3350 O? ? ? ?CBTCAT PRIV/RSDNT
?344? 3350 OFFLINE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?345? 3350 OFFLINE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
?346? 3350 OFFLINE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?347? 3350 OFFLINE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? |
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Re: Error received with ICKDSF
Yon don't need to shut down MVS orr VM before creating the disk, but you do need to detach it from Hercules; you can very it offline to MVS and VM, then tell hercules to detach the device, run dasdinit, then use the hercules attach command to connect to the new one, then very online to VM and attach it to MVS, then vary it online to MVS. On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:01 PM Jim Snellen <jsnellen55@...> wrote: Thanks Jay.? I did not create the disk with alternate tracks.? Since I'm running MVS TK4- as a guest of VM/370 CE, I performed the following steps. --
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Re: Error received with ICKDSF
Thanks Jay.? I did not create the disk with alternate tracks.? Since I'm running MVS TK4- as a guest of VM/370 CE, I performed the following steps.
INIT UNITADDRESS(344) VERIFY(111111) OWNER(HERCULES) VTOC(0,1,15) - VOLID(KICKS0) ICK00700I 344 BEING PROCESSED AS LOGICAL DEVICE = 3350 PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3350 ICK30701I EQUIPMENT CHECK ON 344 CSW = 0DF4F8 0E4047E6 CCW = 150D94A8 00004B3E SENSE = 10020000 082B4010 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ICK10710I I/O ERROR OCCURRED ON DEVICE 344 CSW = 0DF4F8 0E4047E6 CCW = 150D94A8 00004B3E SENSE = 10020000 082B4010 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ICK21000I ALTERNATE TRACK CCHH=X'022B 0000' FOUND UNRECOVERABLE. ICK01307I DEFECTIVE-TRACK LIST IN HEXADECIMAL FOR VOLUME 111111 ICK01312I NO DEFECTIVE ALTERNATE TRACKS WERE FOUND. ICK01380I THE FOLLOWING TRACKS ARE UNRECOVERABLE: CCHH OF TRACK = 022B 0000 ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 Do I need to shutdown MVS and/or VM before creating the disk? |
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Re: Error received with ICKDSF
If you're going to use ICKDSF to initialize a Hercules CKD/CCKD DASD image, you need to specify the -a (alternate tracks) option to dasdinit. ICKDSF is complaining that the alternate tracks are not usable, which is exactly. right: dasdinit does ont create them if you don't specify -a. THey won't ever get used, but they must be present. On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 8:31 PM Jim Snellen <jsnellen55@...> wrote: Hello all, --
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Error received with ICKDSF
Hello all,
I'm "loosely" following the instructions to install the KICKS application using?I'm receiving errors trying to format a disk.? The errors are: ICKDSF - VS2 DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 6.0 TIME: 21:07:34 11/15/22 PAGE 1 INIT UNITADDRESS(344) VERIFY(111111) OWNER(HERCULES) VTOC(0,1,15) - ? ?VOLID(KICKS0) ICK00700I 344 BEING PROCESSED AS LOGICAL DEVICE = 3350 PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3350 ICK10710I I/O ERROR OCCURRED ON DEVICE 344 CSW = 00CE10 0E000000 CCW = 047F4AC8 20000018 SENSE = 80000000 08000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ICK21000I ALTERNATE TRACK CCHH=X'022B 0000' FOUND UNRECOVERABLE. ICK01307I DEFECTIVE-TRACK LIST IN HEXADECIMAL FOR VOLUME 111111 ICK01312I NO DEFECTIVE ALTERNATE TRACKS WERE FOUND. ICK01380I THE FOLLOWING TRACKS ARE UNRECOVERABLE: CCHH OF TRACK = 022B 0000 ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 1 The disk was created with Hercules using the command:? DASDINIT64 -z -lfs D:/VM370CE/Disk/MVS38/KICKS0.344 3350 111111
22:11:28.785 DASDINIT64 -z -lfs KICKS0.344 3350 111111 started; process-id=00007A64
22:11:28.820 00007A64 HHC02499I Hercules utility DASDINIT64 - 64-bit DASD image file creation program - version 4.4.1.10647-SDL-gd0ccfbc9
22:11:28.820 00007A64 HHC01414I (C) Copyright 1999-2022 by Roger Bowler, Jan Jaeger, and others
22:11:28.820 00007A64 HHC01417I ** The SoftDevLabs version of Hercules **
22:11:28.820 00007A64 HHC01415I Build date: Jan? 6 2022 at 16:32:26
22:11:28.820 00007A64 HHC00472I 0:0000 CKD64 file D:/VM370CE/Disk/MVS38/KICKS0.344: creating 3350 volume 111111: 555 cyls, 30 trks/cyl, 19456 bytes/track
22:11:28.822 00007A64 HHC00471I 0:0000 CKD64 file D:/VM370CE/Disk/MVS38/KICKS0.344: 555 cylinders successfully written
22:11:28.822 00007A64 HHC02423I DASD operation completed
22:11:28.827 DASDINIT64 -z -lfs KICKS0.344 3350 111111 ended; rc=0
The JCL to execute the format is: //HERC01I? JOB HERC01I,SYSTEM,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
//ICKDSF? ?EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4096K? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
//SYSPRINT DD? SYSOUT=*? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
//SYSIN? ? DD? *? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? INIT UNITADDRESS(344) VERIFY(111111) OWNER(HERCULES) VTOC(0,1,15) -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?VOLID(KICKS0)? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
/*? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
//? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
I've tried different iterations to no avail.? Can someone point me in the right direction?? BTW, I'm still learning MVS! |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks Joe,?it has been added to my ¡°must read ¡° list.? Best regards, Jim ? On Oct 29, 2022, at 11:07 PM, Joe Monk <joemonk64@...> wrote:
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Joe On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 9:02 PM Jim Snellen <jsnellen55@...> wrote:
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Have you read Introduction to the New Mainframe?
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Thanks to Bob and Rene!? I've completed all tasks in the 'install_and_use.pdf' and completed testing of printing from MVS to VM using both a VM userid AND the label SYSTEM in the JOB card.. In all honesty, I got so excited that I should've read more of the?'install_and_use.pdf',? I've also "purged" entries from the OUTLIST display using the 'P' subcommand (D for delete and E for erase didn't work. . .wink, wink!). Eventually I found the cookbook referenced in the aforementioned?PDF.? The actual URL is?. My issues are resolved.? Thank you everyone for my newbie-ism! On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 12:31 PM Patrik Schindler <poc@...> wrote: Hello Bob, --
Best Regards, Jim |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Hello Bob,
Am 28.10.2022 um 23:55 schrieb Bob Polmanter <wably@...>: Indeed, you are correct. I had not noticed this issue before, as I always code at least a MSGCLASS on every job card to control my sysout. This is a bug in the exit code.Thanks for your confirmation. I wonder if this can be fixed somehow. I dimly remember that this usermod is also rather old and the company which has provided that didn't respond to an inquiry I did. Not surprising. :-) I also don't know if this mod exists only binary form, or if source is available. And even more interesting, who would take the time and dedicate his skills to implement and distribute a fixed version. As an easy work around, you could code a pretty minimal job card:That's what I'm currently doing, but mainly by adding a MSGCLASS. I've left aside MVS for some years. Too many other duties and hobbies. ;-) :wq! PoC |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Jim,
It didn't occur to me that you might be submitting your jobs from CMS, so thanks for clarifying that.? When you submit jobs by punching your JCL deck from CMS like that you will always have to specify USER and PASSWORD on every job card if you want to avoid authority problems. This leads into your next question which was how to test ZBP0001.? Assuming you have specified one of the JES2 printers as a VM printer (as per the ZBP0001 documentation) and restarted the system, all that you need to do is submit a job to MVS? (it can be from CMS as above, or via TSO/RPF), and ensure that your CMS userid is in the programmer-name field of the JOB card.? You said you were using the userid MAINT under VM, so your JOB card could look something like this: //HERC01A? JOB 1,MAINT,MSGCLASS=A When the job finishes running, JES2 will select the output for printing and the output will be spooled to VM userid MAINT, because that's the name in the programmer-name field.? On MAINT, you should see the output in your virtual reader. The above assumes also that you have the JES2 VM-enabled printer servicing output class A.? Its pretty much the default but I don't know if you changed it or not; I'm guessing that you probably did not and so it is likely to be set correctly.? The output class being serviced is set by the CLASS= parameter on the PRINTER1 or PRINTER2 definition in SYS1.JES2PARM(JES2PARM). If you want a JOB's output to actually go to a JES2 printer instead of to a VM userid, just specify SYSTEM in the programmer name field of the JOB card. As for how to delete with OUTLIST, you need to know the job number of the job you wish to delete.? You can obtain the job number from the MVS console by issuing commands (like $DN), or by using option 0 in OUTLIST.? Then put the jobname of the job you want to delete in the Jobname field, e.g., HERC01A or whatever, and put the job number in the next field, such as J826 or J1312 or whatever it is.? I am using an older RPF, but OUTLIST delete works perfectly for me. Regards, Bob |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
If you are using a stock TK4 system, the userid HERC01 is allowed to update the datasets being flagged by security but for some reason the system isn't able to validate your authority.? The most likely cause as mentioned previously by Tom is that you are using RPF and have the default submit mechanism set to RPF.? You should change this to TSO? (go into RPF, then 0.1, and change the SUBMIT=RPF to SUBMIT=TSO.Hi Bob, If you install the latest version of RPF, the option SUBMIT=??? is deleted. Submit of jobs in RPF is now always with the TSO SUBMIT command (previous SUBMIT=TSO). So, SUBMIT=RPF is gone. With SUBMIT=TSO the userid of the to be submitted job is inherited. Submitted jobs with HERC01 will not suffer a S913. The latest version of RPF is on Me neither, when I start RPF, select 0 (DEFAULTS), then 1 (OPTIONS), I don't see the SUBMIT option in the list shown.Rene, You are using a recent version of RPF. Cheers, Rob |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
>> I don't quite know how to test ZBP0001. ?
Well, ZBP0001 implements handshaking, so just submit a job with MSGCLASS=A and check if it gets printed right away. Don't forget to start your real printers in the Hercules console.
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>> Finally, I don't know how to " (go into RPF, then 0.1, and change the SUBMIT=RPF to SUBMIT=TSO." or if I really need to.
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Me neither, when I start RPF, select 0 (DEFAULTS), then 1 (OPTIONS), I don't see the SUBMIT option in the list shown.
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>> When I use 3.8 to view the OUTLIST, how do I delete entries?? Using HELP displays options 1-4 but none of them work.
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With the TAB key, move the cursor in the "S" column, in front of the job you want to delete. Then type p (for purge) followed by Return.
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
check out RJE80. Edits 80 column and browses output 132 columns.
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Bob,
I finally got the jobs to run.? Initially, I was getting a JCL error using 'USERID=' but reading further in this post, I should've used 'USER='.? Both VMEXIT and ZBP0001 jobs ran successfully.? Also, I get the impression that people are thinking I submitted these jobs from TSO.? I did not, rather, I followed the instructions to use VMFPLC2 and loaded the two jobs into the VM MAINT user.? I spooled the PUN to MVS and punched the jobs specifying '( NOH'. Anymore, I don't know what?"stock" is.? The version of MVS I'm running came from?.? I then updated it using the instructions from Rob Prins and used his DASD located at?. The login page says 'MVS 3.8j Level 8505'.? In a separate folder, I also have MVSCE which came from github (MVSCE.release.v1.0.5.tar}, however, I've run it one time natively (not as a VM guest). After re-IPL of MVS, the VM exit worked like a charm!!!? I don't quite know how to test ZBP0001. Finally, I don't know how to "?(go into RPF, then 0.1, and change the SUBMIT=RPF to SUBMIT=TSO." or if I really need to. When I use 3.8 to view the OUTLIST, how do I delete entries?? Using HELP displays options 1-4 but none of them work. Thanks for your patience! |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Gregg Levine wrote:
<snip; preferring Don Knotts instead of Gilda Radner> He was in a film, "The Amazing Mr. Limpet", or somethingAh yes! I remember that movie! and the fish he turned into, well it sounded better than(Heh!) :) So given both your name and nickname, I figured it wouldQuite right. I'll have to remember that next time. :) Thanks for clearing that up, Gregg! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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Re: MVS TK4 or CE
Hello!
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He was in a film, "The Amazing Mr. Limpet", or something like that, and the fish he turned into, well it sounded better than the actor looked. So given both your name and nickname, I figured it would be more appropriate for that message. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@... "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:46 PM Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote:
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