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Next issue, I have a ASM program that is bigger than 4K. I could use multiple base registers, but rather would like to use only one. So I am trying to figure out how to use multiple csects, etc. Any pointers to samples or documentation I could study, would be most appreciated. Thank You Tom c

Thought I would try and get gcc running via dos/vs. Has anyone performed this and if so what are the tips, etc to do so. Thank You Tom c

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /VTP/vtpdosvs.zip By: Gary Cozzolino <gcozzie@...> Description: new folder will not run under VM corrected JCL

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /Install.jcl /readme.txt /Rvtp.JCL /SORT01.2314.CCKD By: Gary Cozzolino <gcozzie@...>

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /vtpdosvs.zip By: Gary Cozzolino <gcozzie@...> Description: VTP for dos/vs - will work under VM

I'm trying to print the DTFSD macro source using SSERV with dos rel 34 : // JOB SSERV1 // EXEC SSERV DSPLY E.DTFSD /* It's returning some kind of "binary" output. What am I missing ? thx Mike

I'm working to get all of my Hercules systems talking to each other. I've got OS/390 speaking SNA to my other OS/390s on Hercules and my R/390s, so now it's time for next bit: getting VSE into the act. On OS/390, this is done by editing configuration members into SYS1.VTAMLST or a dataset concatenated to it. On VM, it's done by editing files on VTAM's 191 disk. On VSE, it's done by editing B books in PRD2.CONFIG. Is there a way to do that online, or do I have to create source members in an ICCF library and then run a batch job to update the real ones? Can I look at the existing members? Like I said, I'm a real DOS n00b... -- Jay Maynard

Hi Everybody Some time ago, Bitsavers got a copy of BOS/360: http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/IBM/360/IBM_BOS_16K_Apr1966.zip Did someone knows a guide to install it under hercules? Will be fine to have it running to complete the BOS-DOS-TOS series I've no luck on finding one ... Best regards Roberto

René Ferland wrote: (/g/H390-DOSVS/message/141) Have you run your DOS/360 under VM/370? It should not be very hard. But the one problem I see is handshaking (automatic close of spool print/punch files), probably not implemented on DOS/360. The OS has to be patched for that. George Shedlock did it for DOS/VS. Hi René, I looked at what I thought was George's DOS/VS distribution (now at: http://dosvs.31bits.net/). It appears that it depends on HercPrt (http://www.softdevlabs.com/hercprt.html) to issue Hercules commands to break printouts into separate files. Apparently HercPrt has magic in it to look for job separator pages from whichever spooler generated the printout and create appropriately named files on the system hosting Hercules. If so, that approach would work with the DOS/360 installation with the following caveats: 1. HercPrt would need to be trained to recognize POWER II separator pages, which I suspect are not very different from POWER/VS(E) separator pages. I haven't used HercPrt, so I don't know how difficult this would be, but I suspect not very difficult at all. 2. The file POWER02.JCL, which creates the POWER II executable, would need to be changed to generate separator pages. "JOBSEP=NO" becomes "JOBSEP=1". POWER II lacks a JSEP= option on the * $$LST or * $$PUN card, so it has to be done during POWER II generation and cannot be turned off. 3. If running under VM, there is no coordination between POWER II and the VM spooler. The unit record devices to be used by POWER II should be assigned by DEDICATE in the virtual machine's entry in USER DIRECT. Addresses do not need to match; "DEDICATE 00E 05E" would be fine. Another approach would be to develop a variant of HERCCMD (posted in this group at HERCCMD.ZIP) to eliminate that coding which is specific to a virtual storage DOS. The program would need to be changed but the $$B transient might be OK as is. This approach might be useful for other things. I also don't know what happens to DIAG 8 when issued under VM under Hercules. Modifying POWER II to issue appropriate CP or Hercules commands is possible in principle; source for POWER II is included on the available distribution. However, I took a look at this and found the code impenetrable. Maybe another look is in order. -Steve

Thanks Richard, and all for directions I've see on files a BOS360.zip file uploaded by René (thanks/mer?i) and I'm trying it I'm using TeraTerm as telnet client, and Hercules 4.0 I found some curious behavior If I type ADD X'00C'... up to SET DATE, I got 0I20I IPL COMPLETE message as expected but - if I paste the commands on teraterm window and press on keyboard last <ENTER> ... I got no message, just stuck there - if I type on hercules console: devinit 00c .\jobs\ipl.jcl ascii eof, then on TeraTerm <ENTER>; instead IPL COMPLETE I got 0I18A SET STATEMENT NOT GIVEN Does Telnet needs a special setting? Do I miss any special key sequence for end of file ? Best Regards Roberto

My data processing career started in 1962 when I went to a technical school to learn how to wire the control panels and to operate IBM Punched Card Tabulating Equipment. My introduction to the IBM 360 series was the Model 20 with the Multi-Function Card Machine (MFCM often referred to as the MF*** Card Mangler) and printer in 1964. See Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360_Model_20 And Bitsavers: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/model20/E20 -0098-0_basicApplications_360-20.pdf This machine used the Card Programming System (CPS) , a set of control programs for a Model 20 computer system with only card input/output devices. The machine was IPL'd with a big deck of punched IBM cards. This was followed by another big deck of cards to run the RPG compiler. Then you would load in your RPG program source cards to produce an object deck on the card punch. I'm a little fuzzy on the exact sequence but I think you had to IPL again and then load your object deck and then your data cards and finally print your report. The Model 20 was kind of a weird member of the 360 family. I seriously doubt that any of its various operating systems would run in Hercules because the 20 had some extra machine ops that didn't exist in the rest of the 360 family. I only used the Model 20 at an engineering firm one night (sometimes all night) a week for the purpose of learning RPG which I would later use on our own Model 30 . RPG programs (Report Program Generator) were designed for people like me that had experience running tab equipment. The steps in writing an RPG program mimicked the operation of the 402, 403 and 407 accounting machines: Input - Calculate - Output. RPG was structured in such a way that you wrote specifications for each step - something very foreign to a COBOL programmer. People who had no experience with the tab machines had a very difficult time learning RPG, in fact they literally hated it. I loved it and learned lots of tricks to make it do what I wanted. Before the Model 30 was installed I had written RPG programs to do all of the various processes that I had developed on the tab machines. This page; http://users.zoominternet.net/~RockFox/SRU/sru50.html in my website lists all of the tab equipment that we had. And there are links to photos of the equipment. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 52 years mailto:RockFox@... http://users.zoominternet.net/~RockFox/SRU "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock"

I'm working through Steven Orso's excellent DOS/360 installation page, just for grins. Unfortunately, I ran into a problem: the migrate03 job blew up with a "library full" cancel during copying the COBOL relocatable library: 3M53I RELOCATABLE LIBRARY IS FULL Is this a known issue, or did I screw up somewhere? Or is there a better place to ask?

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of George Shedlocks DOS/VS 34. His site appears to be down. Thanks

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /#fish-macros.zip By: Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> Description: Various DOS/VS assembler macros written by Fish. Includes the macro's source as well as the JCL to assembler and catalog and test them, as well as PDF printouts too. (No README. Sorry!) The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /#fish-transients.zip By: Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> Description: Various DOS/VS $$B logical transients written by Fish. Includes the transient's source as well as the JCL to assembler and catalog and test them, as well as PDF printouts too. (No README. Sorry!)

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /#HERCCMD.zip By: Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> Description: Fish's "HERCCMD" utility for DOS/VS to allow batch jobs to execute Hercules commands. Includes source and JCL and PDF listings. Be sure to read the README and the Notes! Example/sample test run included. Enjoy!

To the group administrator(s): Does this group support attachments? If not, why not? If attachments are not allowed, then why is uploading files to the group's Files area apparently disabled? If a member (such as me) wishes to pass on to others a .zip for example containing helpful information/code, how do I do it? If I cannot attach the .zip for to my reply and I cannot upload it to the Files area, how the heck can this information be passed on to others? Yes, I realize I could upload it to somewhere else (such as my web site's FTP area or to Google Drive or DropBox, etc), but WHY should I have to do that? Doesn't it make infinitely more sense to allow such files to be uploaded to the actual GROUP they pertain too? Just wondering. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories http://www.softdevlabs.com mail: fish@...

Hi, I'm curious to know if anyone in this forum knows how to obtain supervisor state in an assembler program running on DOS/VS - ideally using a kind of standard interface? I certainly know how to do this in MVS and z/OS, but DOS/VS lacks facilities like AC(1) and the concept of authorised libraries. I searched the manuals to see if some of the IBM-defined standard SVCs could do this, but so far without luck. I seem to recall that some 3rd party vendors installed a SVC of their own to do the trick. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Steen

Hi all, My name is Bob Carlson and I was once a quiet member of this group. I did talk a lot with Fish back then. I started as an operator on one of the first IBM 1440s, then began programming in Autocoder. By the time S/360s were popular I was a systems programmer. Around the year 2000, I bought a surplus P/390 with all it's software. At the time the software was licensed to the machine. I hopped up that old 390, but the hardware (both network and dasd) just couldn't keep up with my needs. Along came Hercules... I was saved. My software license provided the ability to run as needed on a backup machine, as long as it was on premises. It also provided use on an offsite backup machine. We had the option of not getting upgrades or other support from IBM as the original purchase of the P/390 was from a 3rd party vendor who provided service with the purchase. I still have that machine, as well as a slightly faster P/390 I had purchased for parts. I had been running DOS VSE/ESA 2.1 under Hercules (up to 3.7) on a WINDOWS/XP Desktop for over 10 years, until I got tired and turned it off. Is there any interest in a bunch of manuals out there ?? Bob

I googled it,but what I found does not seem to work. I also thought of 'ADD 00E PRT1' to IJSYSRES.SYSLIB($IPLE45.PROC); but I have not figured out how to edit the proc yet. Rahim

Hello gentle men. I'm new to this group. I have however I have been poking around with DOS/VS rel 34 on Hercules for about 6 months now and it works like a charm. This is quite a tour down memory lane for me. This year, i.e. 40 years ago I started my career as developer coding in PL/1 on what have must been OS/VS2 with CICS, I received some very thorough CICS education, learning both CICS macro-level and CICS command-level coding. In 1983 I got my first job as system programmer in a brand new VM/VSE/CICS installation. I have been skimming through the Yahoo archives and it seems that CICS is in great demand among the members in this group and I completely agree. However, I have not been able to see anyone being successful in this area. Now for my question. Has anyone had success obtaining a working version of CICS - no matter which version - and are willing to share? I understand that even old versions of CICS were licensed in contrast to the OS itself, and I fear that my question is opening Pandoras box :-) Of course I don't want to break any licensing rules for this. Br, Steen