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VTAM DOS/VS


 

Been working on VTAM under DOS/VS.? Reading all the notes, emails, etc, I have collected over time
I have got VTAM up and running under DOS/VS.? Does do anything, as I have no appl that will
run under it.? A bunch of questions about it,that I have not figured out yet.
ex:? Do you run VTAM under Power? yes/no.....
????? I have tried to run it at a higher priority than power, but not sure about it.

Numerous other questions, but one at a time...
The code can be found at github.com/tchandler48/DOS5PEXT along
with the documentation in the HOWTO pdf.....

Any help, comments, etc, will be greatly appreciated....

Thank you
Tom c


 

As I recall having worked as system programmer in a DOS and VM environment in the 1980's, we always had POWER as 1st priority, VTAM as 2nd, CICS as 3rd and finally batch as lowest priority.
The reason behind is that both POWER and VTAM served the other partitions and did not use many resources.

Best regards,

Steen Hansen


 

Sir,
Thank you for the information.? I have my DOS/VS as follows:

Highest to Lowest
F1???? Power
F2???? VTAM
F3???? Batch
F4???? Batch
BG??? Batch

This "appears" to work.? VTAM comes up and I can issue commands to it and
get back responses.? So far so good......

Next problem is I can not sign on to VTAM.? I have
devices 080,081,082 defined in my system, hercules, and in my
VTAM lclmaj00 'B" book.? If I perform a d,id=cu080, VTAM responds
with it being active,alloc to =netsol, and other information.? However
when I try and connect to VTAM, the 3270 emulator just sits there.
Hercules shows device 080 connected to my 3270 window.? Can not
get a response form VTAM or it is not getting to VTAM.

Next opportunity..........

Cheers
Tom c


On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 12:17 PM Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...> wrote:
As I recall having worked as system programmer in a DOS and VM environment in the 1980's, we always had POWER as 1st priority, VTAM as 2nd, CICS as 3rd and finally batch as lowest priority.
The reason behind is that both POWER and VTAM served the other partitions and did not use many resources.

Best regards,

Steen Hansen


 

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Have you defined the NETSOL (Network Solicitor) messages? ?When the terminal is activated to VTAM it is initially assigned to the network solicitor function within VTAM. ?It is to this component that the user will enter which application it is to communicate. ?It has been many decades since I have done this. ?Some manual would be helpful if you have it. ?The details are beyond me at present. ?Those have "aged out." ?You should be able to get the network solicitor working even if you have no applications. ?That will be your second challenge.

Harold Grovesteen

On Sat, 2021-12-25 at 13:37 -0600, Tom Chandler wrote:
Sir,
Thank you for the information.? I have my DOS/VS as follows:

Highest to Lowest
F1???? Power
F2???? VTAM
F3???? Batch
F4???? Batch
BG??? Batch

This "appears" to work.? VTAM comes up and I can issue commands to it and
get back responses.? So far so good......

Next problem is I can not sign on to VTAM.? I have
devices 080,081,082 defined in my system, hercules, and in my
VTAM lclmaj00 'B" book.? If I perform a d,id=cu080, VTAM responds
with it being active,alloc to =netsol, and other information.? However
when I try and connect to VTAM, the 3270 emulator just sits there.
Hercules shows device 080 connected to my 3270 window.? Can not
get a response form VTAM or it is not getting to VTAM.

Next opportunity..........

Cheers
Tom c


On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 12:17 PM Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...> wrote:
As I recall having worked as system programmer in a DOS and VM environment in the 1980's, we always had POWER as 1st priority, VTAM as 2nd, CICS as 3rd and finally batch as lowest priority.
The reason behind is that both POWER and VTAM served the other partitions and did not use many resources.

Best regards,

Steen Hansen


 

Sir,
Found the following manual.? It has complete section on DOS/VS, VTAM w/3704 with sample configuration
and job streams.? Got to read a lot, but maybe a solution.

G320-6028? Technical Bulletin SNA Product Installation Guide.

Now for some heavy reading.

Thank You for your directions..maybe get lucky.

Cheers
Tom C.


On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 2:02 PM Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen@...> wrote:
Have you defined the NETSOL (Network Solicitor) messages?? When the terminal is activated to VTAM it is initially assigned to the network solicitor function within VTAM.? It is to this component that the user will enter which application it is to communicate.? It has been many decades since I have done this.? Some manual would be helpful if you have it.? The details are beyond me at present.? Those have "aged out." ?You should be able to get the network solicitor working even if you have no applications.? That will be your second challenge.

Harold Grovesteen

On Sat, 2021-12-25 at 13:37 -0600, Tom Chandler wrote:
Sir,
Thank you for the information.? I have my DOS/VS as follows:

Highest to Lowest
F1???? Power
F2???? VTAM
F3???? Batch
F4???? Batch
BG??? Batch

This "appears" to work.? VTAM comes up and I can issue commands to it and
get back responses.? So far so good......

Next problem is I can not sign on to VTAM.? I have
devices 080,081,082 defined in my system, hercules, and in my
VTAM lclmaj00 'B" book.? If I perform a d,id=cu080, VTAM responds
with it being active,alloc to =netsol, and other information.? However
when I try and connect to VTAM, the 3270 emulator just sits there.
Hercules shows device 080 connected to my 3270 window.? Can not
get a response form VTAM or it is not getting to VTAM.

Next opportunity..........

Cheers
Tom c


On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 12:17 PM Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...> wrote:
As I recall having worked as system programmer in a DOS and VM environment in the 1980's, we always had POWER as 1st priority, VTAM as 2nd, CICS as 3rd and finally batch as lowest priority.
The reason behind is that both POWER and VTAM served the other partitions and did not use many resources.

Best regards,

Steen Hansen


 

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Steen, Some actual VTAM manuals for the VTAM you are using will be extremely valuable when working with this one.
Tom, thanks. ?I grabbed it while the grabbing was good.

Harold Grovesteen

On Sat, 2021-12-25 at 14:19 -0600, Tom Chandler wrote:
Sir,
Found the following manual.? It has complete section on DOS/VS, VTAM w/3704 with sample configuration
and job streams.? Got to read a lot, but maybe a solution.

G320-6028? Technical Bulletin SNA Product Installation Guide.

Now for some heavy reading.

Thank You for your directions..maybe get lucky.

Cheers
Tom C.


On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 2:02 PM Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen@...> wrote:
Have you defined the NETSOL (Network Solicitor) messages?? When the terminal is activated to VTAM it is initially assigned to the network solicitor function within VTAM.? It is to this component that the user will enter which application it is to communicate.? It has been many decades since I have done this.? Some manual would be helpful if you have it.? The details are beyond me at present.? Those have "aged out." ?You should be able to get the network solicitor working even if you have no applications.? That will be your second challenge.

Harold Grovesteen

On Sat, 2021-12-25 at 13:37 -0600, Tom Chandler wrote:
Sir,
Thank you for the information.? I have my DOS/VS as follows:

Highest to Lowest
F1???? Power
F2???? VTAM
F3???? Batch
F4???? Batch
BG??? Batch

This "appears" to work.? VTAM comes up and I can issue commands to it and
get back responses.? So far so good......

Next problem is I can not sign on to VTAM.? I have
devices 080,081,082 defined in my system, hercules, and in my
VTAM lclmaj00 'B" book.? If I perform a d,id=cu080, VTAM responds
with it being active,alloc to =netsol, and other information.? However
when I try and connect to VTAM, the 3270 emulator just sits there.
Hercules shows device 080 connected to my 3270 window.? Can not
get a response form VTAM or it is not getting to VTAM.

Next opportunity..........

Cheers
Tom c


On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 12:17 PM Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...> wrote:
As I recall having worked as system programmer in a DOS and VM environment in the 1980's, we always had POWER as 1st priority, VTAM as 2nd, CICS as 3rd and finally batch as lowest priority.
The reason behind is that both POWER and VTAM served the other partitions and did not use many resources.

Best regards,

Steen Hansen


 

HI.
I am trying to configure VTAM according to the instructions from github:

I generated a new supervisor together with power, made a configuration, but when I try to start VTAM via the VTAM.JCL job, all I get on the console is:
? 12 F1 1Q34I RDR WAITING FOR WORK ON 00C
I'm not sure if the VTAM product is installed at all.
If I try job restopt4.dosvs from 5pack installation I get:
11 BG * RESTOREP1 RESTORE OPTIONAL TO DOSVS.OPTIONAL.VTAM

12 BG 1T20I SYS009 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO X'364'

13 F1 1Q34I LST WAITING FOR WORK ON 00E

14 BG 0P10I C EQUIP CHK SYS006=280

15 CCSW=3F104021E80E002000 CCB=402158

16 SNS=1040000000C003600000000000800100010000FFFF

17 BG 0P73I JOB RESTOPT4 CANCELED DUE TO I/O ERROR

18 BG EOJ RESTOPT4
Has anyone had success with that installation?
Can someone help me?


 

To reply to myself...
It is good to release job from reader when is submitted via reader with disp L :D .
12 AR R RDR,VTAM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
13 F1 1R88I ?OK ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
14 F1 1Q47I ? F3 VTAM 00301 FROM 000 ? ? ? ?
15 F2 // JOB VTAM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
16 ? ?DATE 12/16/23,CLOCK 03/58/25 ? ? ? ? ?
17 F2 5B10I ?ISTNSC00 STARTED ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
18 F2 5A93I ?APPLBUDD ACTIVE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
19 F2 5A93I ?LCLMAJ00 ACTIVE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
20 F2 5A20I ?VTAM INITIALIZATION COMPLETE ?


On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 8:15?AM Crni Mrki, DK4BN via <crnimrki=[email protected]> wrote:
HI.
I am trying to configure VTAM according to the instructions from github:

I generated a new supervisor together with power, made a configuration, but when I try to start VTAM via the VTAM.JCL job, all I get on the console is:
? 12 F1 1Q34I RDR WAITING FOR WORK ON 00C
I'm not sure if the VTAM product is installed at all.
If I try job restopt4.dosvs from 5pack installation I get:
11 BG * RESTOREP1 RESTORE OPTIONAL TO DOSVS.OPTIONAL.VTAM

12 BG 1T20I SYS009 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO X'364'

13 F1 1Q34I LST WAITING FOR WORK ON 00E

14 BG 0P10I C EQUIP CHK SYS006=280

15 CCSW=3F104021E80E002000 CCB=402158

16 SNS=1040000000C003600000000000800100010000FFFF

17 BG 0P73I JOB RESTOPT4 CANCELED DUE TO I/O ERROR

18 BG EOJ RESTOPT4
Has anyone had success with that installation?
Can someone help me?