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New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1

 

Hi all,

My name is Bob Carlson and I was once a quiet member of this group. I did talk a lot with Fish back then.


I started as an operator on one of the first IBM 1440s, then began programming in Autocoder. By the time S/360s were popular I was a systems programmer. Around the year 2000, I bought a surplus P/390 with all it's software. At the time the software was licensed to the machine. I hopped up that old 390, but the hardware (both network and dasd) just couldn't keep up with my needs.

Along came Hercules... I was saved. My software license provided the ability to run as needed on a backup machine, as long as it was on premises. It also provided use on an offsite backup machine. We had the option of not getting upgrades or other support from IBM as the original purchase of the P/390 was from a 3rd party vendor who provided service with the purchase. I still have that machine, as well as a slightly faster P/390 I had purchased for parts.

I had been running DOS VSE/ESA 2.1 under Hercules (up to 3.7)? on a WINDOWS/XP Desktop for over 10 years, until I got tired and turned it off.

Is there any interest in a bunch of manuals out there ??


Bob
 

Hi Bob,

This sounds as a very attractive piece of hardware you have kept running all these years, and thanks for offering the manuals here in this forum instead of just throwing it all out.
I? have an interest in VSE/ESA myself as DOS/VSE was the first OS that I worked with as system programmer back in the 1980's.
I would imagine that there is a great interest in these manuals as they as hard to find at bitsavers or at IBM. Assuming these manuals are on paper I myself is not able to undertake the job of scanning the manuals, however I really hope that someone with access to scanning equipment will be willing to do this.

Best regards,

Steen
 

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There is a collection of Vse/Esa manuals in digital form on archive. Org.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...>
Date: 4/19/21 2:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1

Hi Bob,

This sounds as a very attractive piece of hardware you have kept running all these years, and thanks for offering the manuals here in this forum instead of just throwing it all out.
I? have an interest in VSE/ESA myself as DOS/VSE was the first OS that I worked with as system programmer back in the 1980's.
I would imagine that there is a great interest in these manuals as they as hard to find at bitsavers or at IBM. Assuming these manuals are on paper I myself is not able to undertake the job of scanning the manuals, however I really hope that someone with access to scanning equipment will be willing to do this.

Best regards,

Steen

 

Can you supply a list of these manuals ?

I can scan them providing they are A4 or Letter and make them available on the bitsaver and other sites but need to check that they or some of them are not currently available.
.
Vincent

On 19/04/2021 01:21, Robert Carlson wrote:
Hi all,

My name is Bob Carlson and I was once a quiet member of this group. I did talk a lot with Fish back then.


I started as an operator on one of the first IBM 1440s, then began programming in Autocoder. By the time S/360s were popular I was a systems programmer. Around the year 2000, I bought a surplus P/390 with all it's software. At the time the software was licensed to the machine. I hopped up that old 390, but the hardware (both network and dasd) just couldn't keep up with my needs.

Along came Hercules... I was saved. My software license provided the ability to run as needed on a backup machine, as long as it was on premises. It also provided use on an offsite backup machine. We had the option of not getting upgrades or other support from IBM as the original purchase of the P/390 was from a 3rd party vendor who provided service with the purchase. I still have that machine, as well as a slightly faster P/390 I had purchased for parts.

I had been running DOS VSE/ESA 2.1 under Hercules (up to 3.7)? on a WINDOWS/XP Desktop for over 10 years, until I got tired and turned it off.

Is there any interest in a bunch of manuals out there ??


Bob
 

Hi Rahim,

Could you provide a more specific link than archive.org?? When I search that site, I can find older DOS/VSE manuals, but I don't see any VSE/ESA stuff.? I'd really like to research that OS, I've been curious about it for a while and want to get started playing with it.

Thanks!
 


 




regards;

Rahim?



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On Monday, April 19, 2021, 01:56:20 PM CDT, Jeff Snyder <jsnyder1369@...> wrote:


Hi Rahim,

Could you provide a more specific link than archive.org?? When I search that site, I can find older DOS/VSE manuals, but I don't see any VSE/ESA stuff.? I'd really like to research that OS, I've been curious about it for a while and want to get started playing with it.

Thanks!

 

Rahim,

This just looks like manuals for the CA range of products (CA-Easytrieve
etc etc).

Chris
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:59:42 +0000 (UTC)
"Rahim Azizarab via groups.io" <rahimazizarab@...> wrote:
CA Systems Library for OS390 Docu CD April 1999 (ENG) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
 






regards;

Rahim ?



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On Monday, April 19, 2021, 5:24:02 PM CDT, cjar1950 via groups.io <cjar1950@...> wrote:


Rahim,

This just looks like manuals for the CA range of products (CA-Easytrieve
etc etc).

Chris
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<cjar1950@...>



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On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:59:42 +0000 (UTC)
"Rahim Azizarab via groups.io" <rahimazizarab=[email protected]> wrote:
> CA Systems Library for OS390 Docu CD April 1999 (ENG) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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Thanks, anyhow.? None of the references you provided document the VSE/ESA operating system.

You provided a link to and IMS/ESA manual, a Computer Associates product documentation disk and you sent me a link for a book on DOS/VSE JCL.

If someone has some VSE/ESA manuals they are willing to share, please don't discourage their offer by saying "Oh, we already have a bunch" when there are none there.
 

Hi Bob,

I would be very interested in those manuals. I work with VSE/ESA 2.7 and most of my manuals are for VSE/ESA 1. I also collect and maintain vintage software and hardware of all kinds. I would love to add these to my collection, and the manuals will find legitimate use in my shop. I will also see about archiving them for everyone, because I hate seeing this wealth of knowledge disappear forever.

Best Regards,

David Host
 

Hi all

I've been working with VSE 2.5 and still have many of PDFs around version 2.5 (some for 2.4, others for 2.5 or 2.6) - I can provide a list. I'm not sure if posting this on a free website is legal (IBM does not like copyrighted material on non-IBM sites), but I am able to share it for private use. I also have CDs with OS/390 docs, VM docs and old Redbooks (which unexpectedly disappeared from the IBM site).

Piotr

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