Re: New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1
Hi Rahim,
Could you provide a more specific link than archive.org?? When I search that site, I can find older DOS/VSE manuals, but I don't see any VSE/ESA stuff.? I'd really like to research that OS, I've been curious about it for a while and want to get started playing with it.
Thanks!
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Re: New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1
Can you supply a list of these manuals ?
I can scan them providing they are A4 or Letter and make them available on the bitsaver and other sites but need to check that they or some of them are not currently available.
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Vincent
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On 19/04/2021 01:21, Robert Carlson wrote: Hi all,
My name is Bob Carlson and I was once a quiet member of this group. I did talk a lot with Fish back then.
I started as an operator on one of the first IBM 1440s, then began programming in Autocoder. By the time S/360s were popular I was a systems programmer. Around the year 2000, I bought a surplus P/390 with all it's software. At the time the software was licensed to the machine. I hopped up that old 390, but the hardware (both network and dasd) just couldn't keep up with my needs.
Along came Hercules... I was saved. My software license provided the ability to run as needed on a backup machine, as long as it was on premises. It also provided use on an offsite backup machine. We had the option of not getting upgrades or other support from IBM as the original purchase of the P/390 was from a 3rd party vendor who provided service with the purchase. I still have that machine, as well as a slightly faster P/390 I had purchased for parts.
I had been running DOS VSE/ESA 2.1 under Hercules (up to 3.7)? on a WINDOWS/XP Desktop for over 10 years, until I got tired and turned it off.
Is there any interest in a bunch of manuals out there ??
Bob
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Re: New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1
There is a collection of Vse/Esa manuals in digital form on archive. Org.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...> Date: 4/19/21 2:28 AM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1
Hi Bob, This sounds as a very attractive piece of hardware you have kept running all these years, and thanks for offering the manuals here in this forum instead of just throwing it all out. I? have an interest in VSE/ESA myself as DOS/VSE was the first OS that I worked with as system programmer back in the 1980's. I would imagine that there is a great interest in these manuals as they as hard to find at bitsavers or at IBM. Assuming these manuals are on paper I myself is not able to undertake the job of scanning the manuals, however I really hope that someone with access to scanning equipment will be willing to do this. Best regards, Steen
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Re: New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1
Hi Bob,
This sounds as a very attractive piece of hardware you have kept running all these years, and thanks for offering the manuals here in this forum instead of just throwing it all out.
I? have an interest in VSE/ESA myself as DOS/VSE was the first OS that I worked with as system programmer back in the 1980's.
I would imagine that there is a great interest in these manuals as they as hard to find at bitsavers or at IBM. Assuming these manuals are on paper I myself is not able to undertake the job of scanning the manuals, however I really hope that someone with access to scanning equipment will be willing to do this.
Best regards,
Steen
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New Guy with Manuals for VSE/ESA 2.1
Hi all,
My name is Bob Carlson and I was once a quiet member of this group. I did talk a lot with Fish back then.
I started as an operator on one of the first IBM 1440s, then began programming in Autocoder. By the time S/360s were popular I was a systems programmer. Around the year 2000, I bought a surplus P/390 with all it's software. At the time the software was licensed to the machine. I hopped up that old 390, but the hardware (both network and dasd) just couldn't keep up with my needs.
Along came Hercules... I was saved. My software license provided the ability to run as needed on a backup machine, as long as it was on premises. It also provided use on an offsite backup machine. We had the option of not getting upgrades or other support from IBM as the original purchase of the P/390 was from a 3rd party vendor who provided service with the purchase. I still have that machine, as well as a slightly faster P/390 I had purchased for parts.
I had been running DOS VSE/ESA 2.1 under Hercules (up to 3.7)? on a WINDOWS/XP Desktop for over 10 years, until I got tired and turned it off.
Is there any interest in a bunch of manuals out there ??
Bob
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Re: FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake
Hi Gary,
Forgive me for asking a stupid question.? You have added a Google document with a single line of text.? What should I do to obtain the software?
Best regards,
Steen Hansen
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On Saturday, March 13, 2021, 12:44:10 PM MST, <lbelmontes@...> wrote:
Hello, Gary. ? I would like very much to obtain the 2.1 version as well.? My first job was on DOS/VS and transitioned to DOS/VSE shortly after.? Would be nice to install and use this OS from yester-year. ? Thanks, Larry Belmontes ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Nelson Forni Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:11 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake ? Hi Gary, Greetings from Brazil! As I use to switch among versions of VM and VSE in my Hercules environment, I would appreciate it very much if you could send me (or indicate a location) of the 2.1 version. ? On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 2:11 PM Gary Cozzolino via <gcozzie=[email protected]> wrote: I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? (Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group) > AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE. > Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can. > DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed. Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE. If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Software Development Laboratories
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On Saturday, March 13, 2021, 01:01:30 PM MST, ahp2267 <ahp2267@...> wrote:
Hello Gary,? ? ? I would also like to receive a copy of?DOS/VSE 2.1?if it is available. Thank you, ? ?Hank
Hello, Gary. ? I would like very much to obtain the 2.1 version as well.? My first job was on DOS/VS and transitioned to DOS/VSE shortly after.? Would be nice to install and use this OS from yester-year. ? Thanks, Larry Belmontes ? ? Hi Gary, Greetings from Brazil! As I use to switch among versions of VM and VSE in my Hercules environment, I would appreciate it very much if you could send me (or indicate a location) of the 2.1 version. ? On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 2:11 PM Gary Cozzolino via <gcozzie=[email protected]> wrote: I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? (Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group) > AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE. > Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can. > DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed. Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE. If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Software Development Laboratories
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Re: FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake
On Saturday, March 13, 2021, 01:31:28 PM MST, Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote:
Gary Cozzolino wrote: > I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? It's worth a try! THANKS! Where/how can I obtain it? Do you have a download URL somewhere? What format is it in? .AWS tape format? If you don't have any place where you can upload it to (so that I can then download it from), you can upload it to my SoftDevLabs FTP site. Just plonk it into the "incoming" folder: ? * ftp://www.softdevlabs.com? * ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/incoming/Otherwise, send me your download URL and I'll download it directly from you. THANKS!!!! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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On Saturday, March 13, 2021, 03:32:33 PM MST, Mike <antebios1153@...> wrote:
I would also enjoy a copy please. ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Gary Cozzolino via groups.io Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 5:09 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake ? I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? (Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group) > AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE. > Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can. > DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed. Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE. If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Software Development Laboratories
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On Sunday, March 14, 2021, 01:16:12 AM MST, Steen Hansen <steenshansen@...> wrote:
Hi Gary,
I would also very much like a copy of DOS/VSE as well. DOS/VSE was the first OS I worked on as a system programmer.
Steen Hansen
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On Sunday, March 14, 2021, 09:57:17 AM MST, Mark Gutzwiller <mark.gutzwiller@...> wrote:
I would also like a copy. It was my first experience with IBM operating systems. I believe it was also the reason why I was hired as a console operator for a pre-OS/390 MVS system.
DOS was hard to learn. Every IBM system after that seemed easy.
Thanks.
I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help?
(Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group)
Seymour J Metz wrote:
> AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE.
> Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can.
>
> DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed.
Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE.
If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME!
Thanks.
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"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
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I would also like a copy. It was my first experience with IBM operating systems. I believe it was also the reason why I was hired as a console operator for a pre-OS/390 MVS system.
DOS was hard to learn. Every IBM system after that seemed easy.
Thanks.
I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help?
(Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group)
Seymour J Metz wrote:
> AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE.
> Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can.
>
> DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed.
Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE.
If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME!
Thanks.
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
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Re: FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake
Hi Gary,
I would also very much like a copy of DOS/VSE as well. DOS/VSE was the first OS I worked on as a system programmer.
Steen Hansen
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Re: FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake
I would also enjoy a copy please. ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Gary Cozzolino via groups.io Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 5:09 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake ? I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? (Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group) > AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE. > Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can. > DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed. Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE. If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Software Development Laboratories
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Gary Cozzolino wrote: I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? It's worth a try! THANKS! Where/how can I obtain it? Do you have a download URL somewhere? What format is it in? .AWS tape format? If you don't have any place where you can upload it to (so that I can then download it from), you can upload it to my SoftDevLabs FTP site. Just plonk it into the "incoming" folder: * ftp://www.softdevlabs.com * ftp://www.softdevlabs.com/incoming/ Otherwise, send me your download URL and I'll download it directly from you. THANKS!!!! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Hello Gary,? ? ? I would also like to receive a copy of?DOS/VSE 2.1?if it is available. Thank you, ? ?Hank
Hello, Gary. ? I would like very much to obtain the 2.1 version as well.? My first job was on DOS/VS and transitioned to DOS/VSE shortly after.? Would be nice to install and use this OS from yester-year. ? Thanks, Larry Belmontes ? ? Hi Gary, Greetings from Brazil! As I use to switch among versions of VM and VSE in my Hercules environment, I would appreciate it very much if you could send me (or indicate a location) of the 2.1 version. ? On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 2:11 PM Gary Cozzolino via <gcozzie=[email protected]> wrote: I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? (Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group) > AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE. > Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can. > DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed. Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE. If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Software Development Laboratories
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Re: FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake
Hello, Gary. ? I would like very much to obtain the 2.1 version as well.? My first job was on DOS/VS and transitioned to DOS/VSE shortly after.? Would be nice to install and use this OS from yester-year. ? Thanks, Larry Belmontes ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Nelson Forni Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:11 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] FW: [hercules-390] Interesting project I would like to undertake ? Hi Gary, Greetings from Brazil! As I use to switch among versions of VM and VSE in my Hercules environment, I would appreciate it very much if you could send me (or indicate a location) of the 2.1 version. ? On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 2:11 PM Gary Cozzolino via <gcozzie=[email protected]> wrote: I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help? (Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group) > AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE. > Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can. > DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed. Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE. If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Software Development Laboratories
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Hi Gary, Greetings from Brazil!
As I use to switch among versions of VM and VSE in my Hercules environment, I would appreciate it very much if you could send me (or indicate a location) of the 2.1 version.
Best Regards! -Nelson Forni
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 2:11 PM Gary Cozzolino via <gcozzie= [email protected]> wrote:
I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help?
(Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group)
Seymour J Metz wrote:
> AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE.
> Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can.
>
> DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed.
Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE.
If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME!
Thanks.
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
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I have a copy of DOS/VSE 2.1 if that will help?
On Friday, March 12, 2021, 08:36:58 PM MST, Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote:
(Forwarding from main Hercules group to the H390-DOS/VS group)
Seymour J Metz wrote:
> AFAIK, everything from DOS/VSE through VSE/SP can exploit ECPS:VSE.
> Neither VSE/ESA nor Z/VSE can.
>
> DOS/VSE is free; AF, SSX, SP et al are licensed.
Well that's what I'm looking for! A very early version of DOS/VSE that supports ECPS:VSE.
If anyone can manage to locate one, PLEASE CONTACT ME!
Thanks.
--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories
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Gary Cozzolino