Re: Documentation Request
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 02:43 PM, George Shedlock wrote:
If so, where / how can I get a copy?
Could this do the trick? Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Does anyone have a copy of the softcopy library collection that covers ANY version of VSE?
If so, where / how can I get a copy?
George
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Re: Translation Specification Exception with Hyperion 4.3.9; Hercules 3.13 ok
Mike wrote: Wondering if anyone else has run into this...
While IPLing ZVSE V4, right after Power begins initializing,
a "SYSTEM HAS ENTERED A HARD WAIT <====TRANSLATION SPECIFICATION
EXCEPTION" (see attached) occurs with Hyperion v4.3.9999.0-SDL.
This happens with a first level VSE or as a guest under VM.
It works fine on Hercules v3.13. Perhaps it is something simple
I've overlooked. OR... perhaps you're using a version of Hyperion 4.3 that doesn't have the PIC 12 fix? (committed on 6/16/2020): Revision: a774fc6fd5ae72a1d70aa8f7812d3dcfc7719f8b Author: Fish (David B. Trout) <fish@...> Date: 6/16/2020 5:07:19 PM Message: Translation Specification PIC 12 (temporary?) fix Refer to GitHub Issue #275(*) for details. Please provide a COMPLETE Hercules log showing the *exact* version of Hercules you are using (v4.3.9999 is not an exact version; you need to build from a git clone of the repository, not from the .zip source file) as well as a complete copy of your Hercules configuration file. It would also help to know the exact version of z/VSE you're using (and where you got it from!) as well as what the exact version of VM you're using too (and where you got it from). Thanks. (*) Yes, the problem was reported against z/OS 2.4, but the bug is not specific to any particular operating system. It was a bug in our Address Translation logic which would affect any operating system using DAT, including z/VSE. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Translation Specification Exception with Hyperion 4.3.9; Hercules 3.13 ok
Hi,
Wondering if anyone else has run into this...
While IPLing ZVSE V4, right after Power begins initializing, a "SYSTEM HAS ENTERED A HARD WAIT <====TRANSLATION SPECIFICATION EXCEPTION" (see attached) occurs with Hyperion v4.3.9999.0-SDL. This happens with a first level VSE or as a guest under VM. ? It works fine on Hercules v3.13. Perhaps it is something simple I've overlooked.
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?Thanks!
?- Mike
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Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
it WORKS! I needed to add a RSL=PUBLIC parameter to the FCT entry for my file, it bypasses security check and eliminates NOTAUTH error
thank you for helping and giving hints
Il gio 7 mag 2020, 18:32 James King < JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Are you running some version of RACF or other security sub-system?? You will need to allow access via CECI (Transaction name) and applications you will access it via.? Best to just allow all Transactions to access all Files, etc and then later adjust carefully. ? yes i did, CEMT opens and closes it well, it seems an issue related with CICS security: As soon as i find done time to try it I'll let you know Il mar 5 mag 2020, 23:52 James King < JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
? Good day to all,
?
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
Hi René,
Thanks for the help. I haven't had the chance to go back and retrofit the VSAMIO stuff into my program, but your example compiles and runs cleanly, so I think that's the ticket.
I'll keep an eye out for your next video.
Thanks again,
Robert
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
where is your FD (File Descriptor) which come prior to the Select statement?
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Hi all, I've been playing around with the DOS/VS 5-pack running under the VM/370 6-pack on Hercules. I have an FCOBOL program that will take cards representing books on my bookshelf and insert them into an ISAM file. I've already got the same code working against a VSAM file through the ISAM Interface Program.? Now I'd like to take the mask off and change my FD statement to tell FCOBOL that no, really, this is a VSAM file after all. But I am getting compile errors. Code:
020135? ? ?SELECT OUTFILE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020137? ? ? ? ?ASSIGN TO SYS012-BOOKS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020138? ? ? ? ?ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
020140? ? ? ? ?RECORD KEY IS OUTFILE-ISBN? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020141? ? ? ? ?FILE STATUS IS CHK.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
Compile errors:
17? ? ?ILA1132I-E? ? ?INVALID SYSTEM-NAME. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
19? ? ?ILA1017I-E? ? ?FILE INVALID IN RECORD CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
The syntax was lifted directly from page 143 of the DOS/VS Cobol Programmers Guide:?? Thinking the compiler wanted the device class and type, even though the manual says they are for documentation purposes only, I changed the name to?SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS. I get fewer errors, but it still doesn't compile:
?17? ? ?ILA1141I-C? ? ?FILE ORGANIZATION FIELD INVALID IN SYSTEM-NAME.? SEQUENTIAL ASSUMED.
?17? ? ?ILA1015I-E? ? ?SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS INVALID AS EXTERNAL-NAME. IGNORED.
?17? ? ?ILA1017I-E? ? ?ORGANIZATION INVALID IN SELECT CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
I went back through the old mailing list messages, because something jogged my memory about VSAM not being supported under the FCOBOL compiler in the DOS/VS 5-pack, but I couldn't put the pieces together to confirm or deny. Before I waste a couple of days on this, am I on a fool's errand? Am I stuck with just using the ISAM interface? Thanks for any advice. Regards, Robert Corrigan
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 06:40 -0700, rjcorrig@... wrote: Thank you René, I will check it out.
BTW, your videos on the Moshix YouTube channel are awesome. I wish
they'd been around 8 years ago the first time I got hit with the
DOS/VS obsession. I've learned a lot from them. Thank you.
Regards,
Robert Corrigan
? The first OS to which I had exposure was DOS/VS. ?One of my early managers would only run DOS/VS. ?Why? ?It was the OS with the lowest overhead. ?That shop made its money by offering online services. ?It was heavily CICS oriented. ?We even did our development in CICS/VS. ?All of the bespoke applications (the ones we made money with) were in CICS/VS with assembler. Those were the days that even some batch business applications were actually written in assembler. ?I have always had a fondness for DOS/VS. So, you are not alone there. Harold Grovesteen
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
Hello Robert,
Finally, someone who like DOS/VS as much as me! :-)? Glad you like my videos, there should be one soon about VSAMIO on DOS/VS.
All the best,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
Hi Robert,
I've never written any Cobol (my first
language for Fortran on DOS on a 360/40), but looking at the
manual page that you referenced, it has 'SELECT OUTREC',
but your code has 'SELECT OUTFILE'. I know that might be a
red-herring, but it's a difference that stood out to me.
Hope you get it solved.
Simon Knights.
UK.
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Hi all,
I've been playing around with the DOS/VS 5-pack running under the
VM/370 6-pack on Hercules.
I have an FCOBOL program that will take cards representing books
on my bookshelf and insert them into an ISAM file. I've already
got the same code working against a VSAM file through the ISAM
Interface Program.?
Now I'd like to take the mask off and change my FD statement to
tell FCOBOL that no, really, this is a VSAM file after all. But I
am getting compile errors.
Code:
020135? ? ?SELECT OUTFILE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020137? ? ? ? ?ASSIGN TO SYS012-BOOKS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020138? ? ? ? ?ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ??
020140? ? ? ? ?RECORD KEY IS OUTFILE-ISBN? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020141? ? ? ? ?FILE STATUS IS CHK.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ??
Compile errors:
17? ? ?ILA1132I-E? ? ?INVALID SYSTEM-NAME. SKIPPING TO NEXT
CLAUSE.
19? ? ?ILA1017I-E? ? ?FILE INVALID IN RECORD CLAUSE.
SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
The syntax was lifted directly from page 143 of the DOS/VS
Cobol Programmers Guide:??
Thinking the compiler wanted the device class and type, even
though the manual says they are for documentation purposes only,
I changed the name to?SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS. I get fewer errors,
but it still doesn't compile:
?17? ? ?ILA1141I-C? ? ?FILE ORGANIZATION FIELD INVALID IN
SYSTEM-NAME.? SEQUENTIAL ASSUMED.
?17? ? ?ILA1015I-E? ? ?SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS INVALID AS
EXTERNAL-NAME. IGNORED.
?17? ? ?ILA1017I-E? ? ?ORGANIZATION INVALID IN SELECT
CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
I went back through the old mailing list messages, because
something jogged my memory about VSAM not being supported under
the FCOBOL compiler in the DOS/VS 5-pack, but I couldn't put the
pieces together to confirm or deny.
Before I waste a couple of days on this, am I on a fool's
errand? Am I stuck with just using the ISAM interface?
Thanks for any advice.
Regards,
Robert Corrigan
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
Thank you René, I will check it out.
BTW, your videos on the Moshix YouTube channel are awesome. I wish they'd been around 8 years ago the first time I got hit with the DOS/VS obsession. I've learned a lot from them. Thank you.
Regards,
Robert Corrigan
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Re: Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
Hello Robert,
?
FCOBOL does not support VSAM datasets to my knowledge. But you can use the VSAMIO package that Jay Moseley wrote for the MVT COBOL compiler. You may go to this address: https://geronimo370.nl/vm6pext/dos-vs/ and download the VSAMIO zip at the bottom of the page to get a job that installs Jay's assembler module. The archive contains a job to assemble VSAMIO on the 5-pack, an other one to catalog the VSAMIO copy books, and an example of a FCOBOL program that loads records into a VSAM KSDS cluster. There are many examples of VSAMIO usage on Jay's site. You may e-mail me for more info if you wish.
?
Best regards,
?
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Possibly a FAQ: FCOBOL and VSAM?
Hi all, I've been playing around with the DOS/VS 5-pack running under the VM/370 6-pack on Hercules. I have an FCOBOL program that will take cards representing books on my bookshelf and insert them into an ISAM file. I've already got the same code working against a VSAM file through the ISAM Interface Program.? Now I'd like to take the mask off and change my FD statement to tell FCOBOL that no, really, this is a VSAM file after all. But I am getting compile errors. Code:
020135? ? ?SELECT OUTFILE? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020137? ? ? ? ?ASSIGN TO SYS012-BOOKS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020138? ? ? ? ?ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
020140? ? ? ? ?RECORD KEY IS OUTFILE-ISBN? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
020141? ? ? ? ?FILE STATUS IS CHK.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
Compile errors:
17? ? ?ILA1132I-E? ? ?INVALID SYSTEM-NAME. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
19? ? ?ILA1017I-E? ? ?FILE INVALID IN RECORD CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
The syntax was lifted directly from page 143 of the DOS/VS Cobol Programmers Guide:?? Thinking the compiler wanted the device class and type, even though the manual says they are for documentation purposes only, I changed the name to?SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS. I get fewer errors, but it still doesn't compile:
?17? ? ?ILA1141I-C? ? ?FILE ORGANIZATION FIELD INVALID IN SYSTEM-NAME.? SEQUENTIAL ASSUMED.
?17? ? ?ILA1015I-E? ? ?SYS012-DA-2314-BOOKS INVALID AS EXTERNAL-NAME. IGNORED.
?17? ? ?ILA1017I-E? ? ?ORGANIZATION INVALID IN SELECT CLAUSE. SKIPPING TO NEXT CLAUSE.
I went back through the old mailing list messages, because something jogged my memory about VSAM not being supported under the FCOBOL compiler in the DOS/VS 5-pack, but I couldn't put the pieces together to confirm or deny. Before I waste a couple of days on this, am I on a fool's errand? Am I stuck with just using the ISAM interface? Thanks for any advice. Regards, Robert Corrigan
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Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
Are you running some version of RACF or other security sub-system?? You will need to allow access via CECI (Transaction name) and applications you will access it via.? Best to just allow all Transactions to access all Files, etc and then later adjust carefully. ?
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yes i did, CEMT opens and closes it well, it seems an issue related with CICS security: As soon as i find done time to try it I'll let you know Il mar 5 mag 2020, 23:52 James King < JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
? Good day to all,
?
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
yes i did, CEMT opens and closes it well, it seems an issue related with CICS security: As soon as i find done time to try it I'll let you know
Il mar 5 mag 2020, 23:52 James King < JamesDK@...> ha scritto:
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
? Good day to all,
?
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
Did you add it to the CICS file Table?
?
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Show quoted text
Good day to all,
?
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
thank you Rene, I'll submit my question there
best regards
Hello Lucio,
I wonder if this discussion group:
could be a better place to ask your question.
Best regards,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
Hello Lucio,
I wonder if this discussion group:
could be a better place to ask your question.
Best regards,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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NOTAUTH abend in CICS with VSAM
Good day to all,
?
I created a VSAM KSDS dataset and i can read and write it in batch, if i try the same on CICS (EXEC COMMANDS) i get a misterious NOTAUTH error, even with CECI transaction in CICS. There is very little on Google about it, does it ring a bell to you? Can someone point me to the right direction?
?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Links from the old H390-DOSVS Yahoo Group.
Scott,
I just change the settings so that all members can view and upload files.
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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René Ferland
Lucio