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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
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With zVse, in particular,? there is little documentation?out there, compared to mvs /? z/os, which only makes it harder. And vm / z/Vm? which have much more documentation available. And to the original question, I've never used VTAPE. Mike On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 9:30?AM Mike Stramba <mikestramba@...> wrote:
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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 7:32?AM Jay Maynard <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
And especially,? I suspect someone who's first language is not English. Being able to converse in english-as-a-second-language (ESL)? is a feat in itself. Then trying to use a foreign?language to describe a "foreign"? hardware / software system, is a real adventure. It's often hard to even look for? / as for help as you don't even know what? you are looking for? (terminlogy?etc). Many times when I've started something new? (Unreal Engine at the moment), when trying to accomplish something, I? might ask a question, only to be quickly / tersely returned? some new? term.? ? Searching for THAT term / word / will then eventually lead to more relevant info. With zVse, in particular,? there is little documentation?out there, compared to mvs /? z/os, which only makes it harder. I've toyed with it a bit,? but I found it much more difficult to "navigate", do simple things like even "list your files", compared to vMr6 (the easiest), or mvs (more archaic with it's? LISTCAT etc)? "Simple things",? like mounting tapes / devices,? attaching devices,? even using operator commands are not easily found. Mike ?
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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
Manuel, can you give us more information? We saw the one message. Were there other messages put out when you tried it? Do you have the proper configuration in VSE? Can you show us how you configured VTAPE support in VSE? I don't think that Hercules needs any configuration for VTAPE support in VSE, but I could easily be wrong, too. On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 7:48?AM <m_tabares_s@...> wrote: ? Morning. --
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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
*sigh* Don't bite the newbies. I don't speak VSE, so I can't begin to answer the issue myself. And a good bug report is essential in finding the problem. Manuel, the more information you can provide, the better we can do to help out. It's? possible that the problem lies with Hercules, but it's more likely that it's in how your Hercules system - or your VSE - is configured. Yes, it's sometimes annoying that people ask for help and provide a minimum of information. But nothing?is served by flaming them for it. Guiding them to the information you need to answer the question not only helps them and anyone else who might have the same problem, but also helps the community; more than once I've spoken with folks who tried to use Hercules, ran into a problem, asked about it, got flamed to a crackly crunch, and said the heck with it. Let's not do that, please? On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 12:47?AM Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote: Gregg Levine wrote: --
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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
Gregg Levine wrote:
[...] The deliberately rude gentleman was I believe the authorIf you're referring to me, then you are dead wrong, Gregg. I had (and have) absolutely nothing to do with VTAPE. As far as I know, z/VSE VTAPE (Virtual Tape) support is an IBM invention, first introduced with z/VSE 4.1 I believe, which was released sometime around 2007: * I am not the author of Hercules's virtual tape support either (.AWS, .HET, etc), nor am I the author of the .AWS file format. Once again, I believe IBM invented the .AWS virtual tape file format. The only thing related to virtual tape that I am the author of is my AWSBrowse product: * Manuel first contacted me directly, expecting me to help him because he bought some of my software several years ago. I tend to get that a lot, forcing me to politely inform them that I provide support for MY products, but not for Hercules, directing them to the main Hercules support forum and mentioning that we also have additional "more focused" support forums as well (and provide them a link to our Technical Support web page, ). But USUALLY when that happens, the person's original request for help includes a BIT more information than what Manuel provided! The utter dearth of information regarding his environment(*) is what set me off. For the record, I do apologize for my tone, but after putting up with this shit for so many years, it sometimes gets to me and I blow up. I'm human. So sue me. ---------------------- (*) In his original email to me, he didn't mention the version of z/VSE he was using. He just said z/VSE, with no mention of which version. I can see he at least identified in his post to the group what version of z/VSE he was running, but that's hardly enough. -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
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Not necessary to apologize Fish, I'm getting tired of them as well. Manuel there's one thing that all of us can appreciate, and that is providing a complete report, this includes what version of zVSE your system is running, it says zVSE 4.3 but it does not include any final release numbers. Also how was VTAPE configured, and how was Hercules setup. The deliberately rude gentleman was I believe the author of VTAPE, so, he has a right to be that rude. Please resubmit your problem with everything I've suggested, and we'll be able to go on from there. Or not. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@... "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 10:39?PM Fish Fish <david.b.trout@...> wrote: This space intentionally left blank to honor the blank plague despite the two thousand or so years since it last affected the important people of Gallifrey. |
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Re: VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
Manuel wrote:
Hello List.Your problem report sucks. No mention of which version of z/VSE you are running. No mention of which version of Hercules you are running. No Hercules logfile provided. No Hercules configuration file provided. No JCL of VSE jobs that were submitted. No VSE log provided (and NO, screen grabs are NOT good enough). Etc. Your problem report basically consists of "When I tried to do something with VTAPE, it didn't work! HELP!". Absolutely pitiful. Is this the kind of problem report you would submit to IBM? No? Then why do you think such problem report would be acceptable to us? Here's the only help you're going to get from me, obtained after spending about 30 seconds Googling: * (Sorry folks, but I'm tired of this shit.) -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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VTAPE Data handler Initialization Failed
Hello List.
? My name is? Manuel, we are running zVSE Hercules, and when run a? VTAPE job to restore a .AWS file using VTAPE Server, got this msg: ?Our architecture is: ? One Windows Server running HercGUI with? zVSE 4.3 flavor, and VTAPE Server resides on same server ?? Thnks in advance ? Best regards |
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Re: POWER II source distribution
Hi Roger,
I am thrilled that the information was helpful and that you have a working process.?? If you like, I would be happy to add your procedure and JCL, with the attribution and any copyright you might specify, to my DOS/360 web site.?? Let me know.?? Best Regards, Steve Orso |
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Re: POWER II source distribution
Sir, Trying to gen up DOSVS and would be very interested in copy of job stream, if allowed. Thank you Tom c On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:27?PM Roger McCarty <roger.mccarty@...> wrote:
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Re: POWER II source distribution
Hi Folks,
All of the information I have about the provenance and contents of the POWER II distribution tape that I host can be found here: Please note the following: 1) the tape appears to be complete because it contains PID trailers at the end.?? 2) The tape contains the version of POWER II that was intended for use with DOS release 27, a non-VS version that supported 3330 disks.?? 3) I have not attempted to build POWER II from the source on this tape.? Such was not needed for my purposes at the time.?? It is entirely possible that IBM re-architected the POWER II build to no longer use the macros reported as missing.? A brief scan of the job streams included after the first tapemark suggests that this is the case.?? Best Regards, Steve Orso |
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Re: POWER II source distribution
Roger,
This is probably the tape you have, but Stephen Orso hosts a tape at (ibm.360d052006.dos.power.II.with.rje.opt2.v4m1.aws ). Chris -- <cjar1950@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:42:21 -0700 "Fish Fish" <david.b.trout@...> wrote: Roger McCarty wrote:I am trying to find complete source distribution for POWER II.The only source we have (that I am aware of!) is for POWER/VS, which I doubt will help you. |
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Re: POWER II source distribution
Roger McCarty wrote: I am trying to find complete source distribution for POWER II.The only source we have (that I am aware of!) is for POWER/VS, which I doubt will help you. Sorry! :( But maybe someone out there has a copy squirreled away somewhere?? In any case, I wish you the best of luck in your search! Trying to find the original source for old software is indeed a challenge! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@... |
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Re: XXINIT Partition Initiation Jobs
For the Shedlock distribution, if you look in the SUPPORT directory, you
will find XXINIT.JCL. You might have to drill down to find it. Chris -- <cjar1950@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 20:55:06 -0800 Ren¨¦ Ferland <ferland.rene@...> wrote: On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 08:26 PM, <des2ind-webadr@...> wrote:A special parameter in the first Job Entry Control Language statement of the jobs. For example, in the case of XXINITF2, the statement is the following: |
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Re: XXINIT Partition Initiation Jobs
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 08:26 PM, <des2ind-webadr@...> wrote:
What causes the XXINIT Jobs to be put back in the Reader Queue after they are run at IPL Startup time? A special parameter in the first Job Entry Control Language statement of the jobs. For example, in the case of XXINITF2, the statement is the following:
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* $$ JOB JNM=XXINITF2,CLASS=2,DISP=L
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It tells POWER (the job scheduler) to run the job in partition F2 (CLASS=2) and to leave the job in the reader queue (DISP=L).
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Also if the XXINIT Jobs are accidentally deleted from the reader queue, is there any way to get them back into the queue? The (original) jobs are available on minidisk 191 of the DOSVS virtual machine on VM/370 CE. So if they are deleted from the reader queue of DOS/VS, you can punch them into the virtual reader of the DOSVS virtual machine before the IPL. That assumes you run DOS/VS as a guest under VM/370 CE. If you run DOS/VS native under Hercules, you will have to download them from VM/370 CE, either with IND$FILE or the card punch.?
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Cheers,?
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Rene FERLAND, Montreal |
Ren¨¦ Ferland
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