Notice of Pricing Change
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If you don't want to move all your archives, you don't have to get a premium group. See this wiki page for info about alternatives to premium.
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I can understand your situation, but I think the real bad guy here is Yahoo. Yahoo has caused all this commotion, and Groups.io is trying to offer you a way to keep your group. If there was no place to transfer to like Groups.io you would lose your group anyway, so can I suggest you pass the collection plate around to your membership if you can¡¯t personally afford it, and ask your membership to help you out this time. You would be surprised how many people will offer to chip in, just as I found out last year when I transferred my group. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Susan B
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] GMF] Notice of Pricing Change ? Why are they literally springing this overnight fee change on people. They surely knew before this afternoon. I am helping a group with an absentee owner and have to ask Yahoo to make one of us a moderator so we can issue an invite! There is NO time to get that done! We are going to lose our group over this, I¡¯m afraid. Several people offered to donate toward the $110 but we haven¡¯t done anything toward collecting the donations because we wanted to give the owner a chance to respond. If I pay the $110 myself just to get it done, I will lose that money if we can¡¯t send an invite to the transfer agent. |
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Considering what you get and considering it for me costs that much to run a server, 2 of them actually, plus cloud space on other stuff 200 dollars for a year is not bad. It costs to run these things guys, there never will be anything such as a free lunch, someone behind the seens is paying. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our This is also our libsyn page as well. [Excessive sig line trimmed by Moderator] On 22 Oct 2019, at 13:06, Rob Halligan wrote:
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Don all that¡¯s true and some have stepped up. But this group has an absentee owner, yahoo cannot be reached to ask them to make me a mod with invite privileges so I had to give up and get a free basic forum into which I will manually import whatever I can and take a considerable hit to my time (which I have little of) to preserve what I can from the yahoo group. I was and am upset that we were not given more time before the fee went up to see what we could do. So I had a mostly sleepless night.?
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Don Grass <dgrass1@...> wrote:
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We're all having sleepless nights for sure!!! In reading all the posts in this and the beta forum everyone is doing the best they can and it's great to people being so civil despite such a horrible moment in internet history... And how many of us are so busy rescuing the most important stuff that we've barely had a chance to warn everyone else? Hard times! More sleepless nights to come! I feel so awful for so much that's going to be lost, especially among our elders who have already passed on who's only record of their online writings are going to be in these yahogroups emails... And all the pet and people adoption groups, the genealogy groups... It's like bulldozing a one-of-a-kind library without taking the books out first. At some point we need online data protection laws so the cost of deleting decades of archives after a merger is way, way more expensive than maintaining them. I've no doubt that scholars, researchers and historians will be referencing this event for many decades to come! Be well, Deane |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt is a few years, definitely at least 3 or 4, that a friend and I tried to get yahoo to elevate my friend (who was a moderator) to owner and me to co-owner as new membership applications had to be approved and she couldn¡¯t do it. ?The owner had gone missing and totally ignored any attempts to get in touch with her.We never got any helpful response from yahoo at all and the group died. So yahoo ignoring the needs of groups is not a new thing. ?And absent owners and the failure by yahoo to help and support the memberships of those groups have always been a problem with yahoo groups. Barbara On 22 Oct 2019, at 22:06, Susan B <doggiesmail@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIndeed Deane, Don't forget to cc your thoughts to the Verizon corporate offices and their board of directors to let them know how you will feel about using any Verizon products in the future? Charlie
We're all having sleepless nights for sure!!! In reading all the posts in this and the beta forum everyone is doing the best they can and it's great to people being so civil despite such a horrible moment in internet history... And how many of us are so busy rescuing the most important stuff that we've barely had a chance to warn everyone else? Hard times! More sleepless nights to come! I feel so awful for so much that's going to be lost, especially among our elders who have already passed on who's only record of their online writings are going to be in these yahogroups emails... And all the pet and people adoption groups, the genealogy groups... It's like bulldozing a one-of-a-kind library without taking the books out first. At some point we need online data protection laws so the cost of deleting decades of archives after a merger is way, way more expensive than maintaining them. I've no doubt that scholars, researchers and historians will be referencing this event for many decades to come! Be well, Deane |
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Deane <deanerimerman@...> wrote:
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Protection laws from what?? From Yahoo closing a service?? From Groups.io raising fees?? We live and operate in a capitalist society.? Businesses need money to stay in business, and cutting costs is a way to save money.? I bet that yahoo has heaps of data on the whole of their yahoo groups and I bet it shows that a very large percentage of the groups are totally dead, just eating up server space for no reason.? I would wager that 90% of all of the files/photos on all of the yahoo groups have not been opened/viewed/downloaded at all in several years.? I'm on a dozen Y!Gs and they were all VERY active 15 years ago.? Lots of files being uploaded, photos shared, dozens of emails every day.? Those very same groups today have nothing new being shared and possibly about one email per month on average.
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As for your absentee owner, is the owner dead, or just not checking the emails from their old yahoo group?? If the owner is dead, you're out of luck.? If not, I suggest you search for that person on the internet.? Use their name, display name, and interests to narrow down your search.? Maybe you'll be able to find an active email address or even phone number for them.? Don't rely on the groupname-owner@ email address to reach them
If you have their old email address, try sending to new email addresses with the same username and different domains.? For example if the person was Thea Johnson and their old email address was tjohnson25@..., try tjohnson25@... or thea.johnson@....? It's a huge long-shot, but it probably won't take more than 15-30 minutes and you might get lucky.
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 3:13 PM Susan B <doggiesmail@...> wrote:
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 06:32 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
== == Hello Bruce (or anyone who knows for certain) . . . can you please verify: Is the above to say that Premium Groups which were/are in existence before OCT 22nd are grandfathered in at the current (old annual $110/yr) rate in perpetuity as long as they pay each year and do not allow their Premium subscription to lapse? It's unclear ¨Cto me at least¨C whether existing Premium Groups' fees will remain the same or not after their current year ends. Or was our annual fee just grandfathered for the remainder of each of our existing dues years? Enquiring minds and whatnot . . . . Paul M. CostaRicaLiving https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving == |
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:45 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Is the above to say that Premium Groups which were/are in existence before OCT 22nd are grandfathered in at the current (old annual $110/yr) rate in perpetuity as long as they pay each year and do not allow their Premium subscription to lapse?Apparently Mark isn't sure either: Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 06:39 AM, Lukas Louw wrote:
So I started the process of transferring a Yahoo group over, sent an invitation from it toIt can take several days. Be sure to check status per?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948 Regards, Bruce |
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Rob Halligan
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Don Grass
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Susan B
Deane
B?rbel Stephenson
Charlie Railscan
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