Joining Anomaly
开云体育Hi Folks,I moderate a group which I don't own, and have the account set up so anyone wanting to join requires approval, which comes through me and at least one other person. I recently received notification that 'so and so' has joined your group... but I never received an approval request prior to his joining.? I've checked with the others who also have admin privileges in this group, and they didn't get a join request notification either. Looked a little more closely and found this: I'm guessing *someone* issued a direct invitation to join the group.? I have a couple of questions:? first, why aren't group moderators pulled "into the loop" when a someone issues a direct invite, or when the invitee accepts that invitation and becomes a member?? Second, why is the person who issued the invitation not indicated?? I'm in a situation where I'm charged with keeping on top of things with this group, and I find myself with no idea of how this person obtained admission to the group. I've checked all the settings for this group (the ones that are available to me, at least), and didn't see anything pertaining to permissions to directly invite someone to join the group, or notifying group moderators of this fact.? I DO see that only group owners and/or moderators can issue join invitations, so at least I don't have to worry that group members can be issuing invitations to anyone and bypassing group moderators altogether. My concern here is not that *I* have been somehow bypassed, it's that such a bypass can happen at all; it's definitely created concern that someone may have found a back door into this group at least, and maybe others.? Wondering if this is someone exploiting an unnoticed vulnerability or loophole. Any thoughts / clarifications greatly appreciated! Karl |
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When someone accepts an invite, no moderator approval is needed. The idea is that you must have already decided it was appropriate for them to join the group or else you wouldn't have sent the invite in the first place.
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 08:56 AM, kharrisma@... wrote:
I'm guessing *someone* issued a direct invitation to join the group.? I have a couple of questions:? first, why aren't group moderators pulled "into the loop" when a someone issues a direct invite, or when the invitee accepts that invitation and becomes a member?? Second, why is the person who issued the invitation not indicated?? I'm in a situation where I'm charged with keeping on top of things with this group, and I find myself with no idea of how this person obtained admission to the group. |
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Hi Karl,
in the group - Subscription - Settings, look at the ?Moderator notifications“ . Under ?Members“, you can define what should happen when a new member joins the group or when an existing member leaves the group. I suspect (haven‘t tested it), that if that is set to notify moderators via email and web, all moderators should receive at least a message when a new member joins. Can‘t test if that‘s true also if someone joins by direct invitation. Maybe that option is set to ?None“ in your group? Then of course no moderator receives an information about a new member joining by direct invitation.
Kind regards
Thomas |
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 08:56 AM, kharrisma@... wrote:
why aren't group moderators pulled "into the loop" when a someone issues a direct invite, or when the invitee accepts that invitation and becomes a member You have the option of getting a message when someone joins the group.? I believe that should also happen when they accept an invitation.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
开云体育I get a notification when someone requests to join, and I got a notification that this individual HAD joined, but never saw the approval notification.? Turns out someone in "upper management" issued a direct invite, which bypasses the request approval setting.? Found the source, so mystery solved.? The help is appreciated!Karl On 12/20/2024 11:10 AM, Duane via
groups.io wrote:
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开云体育Hi Thomas,You're correct in your suspicions.? Only group owners and/or moderators can issue such an invitation.? If someone applies through the parent group, then moderators get an approval needed notice (if that's how the group is set up.)? If someone (owner/moderator) issues an invitation, the moderators *still* get a notification, but only that "so and so has joined your group," which can be disconcerting when you know you have the settings such that approval from a group moderator is needed.? The notification is perfectly valid, and all is as it should be, except that it takes some poking around in "Admin" to find that an invitation was issued, so the "normal" approval process was bypassed. At least I'm learning more about how things work behind the curtain...? ;-) Karl On 12/20/2024 11:02 AM, Thomas Gruber
via groups.io wrote:
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开云体育Thanks, Andy; this is what solved the mystery.? Very much appreciated!Karl On 12/20/2024 10:00 AM, Andy Wedge via
groups.io wrote:
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