Is there any way that a group member can hide their email address but not their name when posting?
 I just got through migrating my 3rd Yahoo Group to Group.io and a moderator asked me if there is?any way that a group member can hide his email address but not his name when posting?? This moderator used to manually send out lots of email to a bunch of people outside a Yahoo Group that didn't want their email addresses seen/known by others.? The software to do this was costing her $200 a year and now she can no longer afford it and she no longer wants to spend the time doing what she did. So is there a way that a member can hide their email address from other members of the group when posting but not their name?? I believe I can make the member directory only visible to owners & Moderators but these folks didn't want their email addresses visible when they post. I'm getting ready to send out invitations to these folks to join the group and would like to tell them if this is possible or not. Thank you, John ?
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John,
... a moderator asked me if there is any way that a group member canThere is not. While their email addresses won't be shown on the Groups.io site, their address will be in the From: address of their postings when forwarded to members that receive group messages by email. The best the member can do is create or use an anonymous email address for use in the group. That is, go to a free email service (aol, gmail, hotmail, etc.) and create an email address that does not identify them. They can put a filter in the anonymous account to forward to their preferred email address, but this is still inconvenient because it means that they always have to sign in to that anonymous email, or to groups.io, to post or reply. I believe I can make the member directory only visible to owners &Correct. There was considerable discussion, some time ago, in the beta@ group about having anonymous groups - where no member's address would be seen or forwarded to any other member (only moderators would see them in the Members list). The idea was controversial and hasn't been acted on. I haven't seen anything about them this year. It is on the to-do list though: Shal |
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Michael, I would very much like to see this as an option.?... So if possible please put it higher on the wishes list. To bump this up you'll need to suggest it in the . No one from Groups.io monitors GMF, we're strictly user-to-user. The topic I cited is now locked so you won't be able to reply to it. But nothing stops you from creating a new topic with the same or similar Subject line. It might be useful for you to cite that old topic, as well as the Trello link, just to save the readers of beta from trying to look those up for you. And so they know that you don't need to have the old arguments re-hashed.
I presume they are aware that their email address is divulged only to fellow group members who receive group messages by individual email. That is, it is not divulged on the group's web pages (except to group moderators). On a more short-term basis, perhaps they could be convinced to create an email account at the email service of their choice, and not provide any personal identifiers in the address or name of that account. That would allow them to post without revealing their "real" email address. Granted it is a little inconvenient to manage a second email address just for this purpose, but most email desktop or mobile apps make it pretty simple to manage two or more email addresses from the same user interface. Some webail platforms (such as Gmail) handle this well also. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:13 AM, Michael Cope wrote:
With all due respect you already do it for because of DMARC.The email address isn't removed, just munged.? Anyone with a bit of determination can easily figure out what they really are. As noted earlier, WE don't do it because we're only users.? Groups.io management doesn't follow this group. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Mike,
With all due respect you already do it for because of DMARC. SinceOf course it is not impossible for Groups.io to create such a feature. As Duane mentioned, I said it is impossible for a member or a group owner/mod because the feature does not currently exist in Groups.io. Questions about exactly how it should work and who should be able to choose it have been discussed extensively in the beta group. The search term you want is "anonymous". When posting at beta please keep in mind that the purpose of that group is to suggest and discuss improvements to the service. Remember too that your primary audience is Groups.io, in particular Mark Fletcher - who has already read all of these discussions and considered them. Debating with "voices from the gallery" wastes his time and yours unless it serves to further refine your suggestion. If I recall correctly Mark never said that he couldn't or wouldn't implement an anonymous feature. Just that it is not at the top of his priority list. But if you are serious about wanting to advance this feature I suggest you begin by evaluating for yourself what's been said already. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Mike,
And I think my posting did further refine my suggestion.That it did. Of all the variations previously discussed in beta as "anonymous" groups, yours is clearly the version where 1) Masking one's From address is voluntary by the member 2) Does not provide anonymized forwarding for off-list contact. A similar feature is available in Yahoo Groups, but rarely enabled by the group admins. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI missed the discussion. Is there a way to do this? If so I have not found a way to do this in groups.io. I personally do not need this but wondering never the less in case there is a member on any of my groups who wants to know. On 14 Apr 2019, at 16:17, Shal Farley wrote:
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Sarah,
I missed the discussion.Click the link in the footer: View/Reply Online (#16185) </g/GroupManagersForum/message/16185> Then click the View All xx Messages In Topic button at the bottom. Is there a way to do this?No. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Michael,
Actually I think the label "Anonymous" doesn't reflect anything to doYou asked that their email address not be transmitted to other members with their post. That's the one common factor in all the various ideas discussed as "anonymous" groups. And absolutely the moderator must have knowledge of who sent eachThat's one of the factors discussed. The minimum proposal would affect only the outbound individual messages, leaving the email address shown in the Pending list, in the View Source, and of course in the Members list. This sounds like exactly what you're asking for. At the other extreme would be what the Yahoo Groups feature does: hides the email address from everyone, including mods and owners, by email and by web. Members who choose that option (in groups that allow it) are known only by their Yahoo ID. The only thing I am asking for is that if a member sets up aNote that the member's Display Name is a weak identifier: you might have a group with forty people named "Joe". One solution to that would be using the User Name field from the member's Account Profile. Each user chooses their own User Name, but they are required to be unique site-wide. That's one of the downsides of this idea: the user would have the same identifier in every group subscription. At the moment the User Name field has no purpose, but some future features might make use of it. The ONLY thing I am trying to do is prevent a member from directlyThere's also the Directory, but I think it would be fair to interpret making one's profile accessible to other members as permission for members to contact you directly. And there is the Private reply function, that allows any member to directly contact a member who has posted. As group admin (owner / moderator) you can turn that off by checking the "Remove Other Reply Options" box in the Message Policies section of your group's Settings. From reading tons of stuff on the subject referred to as "Anonymous"I only suggest mentioning it because that's the unifying search term. Your concern can be mitigated by saying something like "this proposal does NOT make members fully anonymous" at least once in the topic. That would both clarify your position and provide a hit for searches. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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