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Edited messages


 

groups.io has a feature where people can edit existing messages in the
archives and a new version of that message is then distributed to the
group. The edited messages start with 'edited message follows'.

I can see the value of this, and it has happened several times today on
this group. But as an email only user I find it somewhat confusing,
quite often opening the edited version (or versions...) before I have
opened the original. It is not always clear why it has been edited,
sometimes for trivial typos, and usually only serves to increase the
email inbox size (which seems to have been quite high for this group of
late!).

Can we turn this option off - maybe on an individual basis (ie 'I don't
want to receive edited messages')? Of course I know the answer will be
no...

Dave


J_Catlady
 

Yes, you can turn it off in your group. It was a hard-won battle in beta, but now even Mark has turned it off there.

I apologize for editing a message here today. I am so used to doing it as a moderator in my group - moderators have the option to edit a message without sending the edited message to the group - that I forgot about the ramifications. I at least would have filled in the ¡®reason for edit¡¯ box.

I¡¯ve turned editing off in my own group for just the reasons you cite, and was a hardcore early supporter of the option to disable it.

On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Dave Sergeant <dave@...> wrote:

groups.io has a feature where people can edit existing messages in the
archives and a new version of that message is then distributed to the
group. The edited messages start with 'edited message follows'.

I can see the value of this, and it has happened several times today on
this group. But as an email only user I find it somewhat confusing,
quite often opening the edited version (or versions...) before I have
opened the original. It is not always clear why it has been edited,
sometimes for trivial typos, and usually only serves to increase the
email inbox size (which seems to have been quite high for this group of
late!).

Can we turn this option off - maybe on an individual basis (ie 'I don't
want to receive edited messages')? Of course I know the answer will be
no...

Dave






 

Many thanks, a setting I hadn't noticed. I have turned off editing in
my 3 groups, will wait to see if anybody complains..

Dave

On 15 Feb 2018 at 0:09, J_Catlady wrote:

Yes, you can turn it off in your group. It was a hard-won battle in
beta, but now even Mark has turned it off there.

I apologize for editing a message here today. I am so used to doing it
as a moderator in my group - moderators have the option to edit a
message without sending the edited message to the group - that I forgot
about the ramifications. I at least would have filled in the ~reason for
editTM box.

ITMve turned editing off in my own group for just the reasons you cite,
and was a hardcore early supporter of the option to disable it.


 

Dave,

It is not always clear why it has been edited, sometimes for trivial
typos, and usually only serves to increase the email inbox size (which
seems to have been quite high for this group of late!).
One can always click on the View/Reply Online link at the bottom of the emailed message, then on the right side click the Edited button, then the Compare Revisions button. For example, this message:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/3576

I think that in the case of an edit the comparison page should be emailed rather than the new message. In most cases that would make it clear whether the edit was trivial (e.g. spelling correction) or meaningful (e.g. inserting the missing word "not" or otherwise changing the meaning of the post). The downside is that the comparison is text-only, with the original formatting stripped, which in some cases may make it hard to read.

I'd also like access to the comparison from the pending edit.

Can we turn this option off - maybe on an individual basis (ie 'I
don't want to receive edited messages')?
That could be a dangerous choice in the case of an edit that changes the meaning of an important message. Safer is the option J fought for, to disable edits by members.

Shal


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