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Controlled Access?


 

Hi, I'm not exactly how to phrase this question, so I hope I can make it clear.

I want to move a yahoo group (doesn't everybody, now?)? We actually looked at moving a while ago, but could not find a feature we depend on, namely, the ability to vet an application for entry.? ?We ask people who would like to join to share a sentence or two about what qualifies them to join us.? We are a support group where sensitive things are shared and don't really want looky-loos or researchers, and while we can't be sure they are not lying, our experience is that asking people to state their qualifications tends to keep out a lot of the riff-raff.

On Yahoo, that statement appears next to the applicant's name on a page available to all moderators, so it's a simple matter of checking the approve button if the statement passes muster, or sending a followup email if the person failed to provide any info or if they say something like "I'm a student of this thing"

I manage a neighborhood list here on Groups.io, and have seen that all I get is a notification email that somebody wants in, there doesn't seem to be a place for them to put anything but their email.? I wind up blindly approving new folks there, as we are hardly a magnet for anybody not in the neighborhood.

Is there a way we can do this sort of vetting on Groups.io?


 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:06 PM, Valerie Bock wrote:
Is there a way we can do this sort of vetting on Groups.io?
Yes; set up a Pending Subscription Message; this will automatically be sent to anyone who applies to join, and you can ask them to explain their interest in your group and admit them (or otherwise) depending on their reply.

Chris


 

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Hi. You could use the ¡°pending subscription¡± notice as a way to do it.
Thanks.
From Michael.
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From: [email protected] on behalf of Valerie Bock <vbock@...>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 10:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Controlled Access?
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Hi, I'm not exactly how to phrase this question, so I hope I can make it clear.

I want to move a yahoo group (doesn't everybody, now?)? We actually looked at moving a while ago, but could not find a feature we depend on, namely, the ability to vet an application for entry.? ?We ask people who would like to join to share a sentence or two about what qualifies them to join us.? We are a support group where sensitive things are shared and don't really want looky-loos or researchers, and while we can't be sure they are not lying, our experience is that asking people to state their qualifications tends to keep out a lot of the riff-raff.

On Yahoo, that statement appears next to the applicant's name on a page available to all moderators, so it's a simple matter of checking the approve button if the statement passes muster, or sending a followup email if the person failed to provide any info or if they say something like "I'm a student of this thing"

I manage a neighborhood list here on Groups.io, and have seen that all I get is a notification email that somebody wants in, there doesn't seem to be a place for them to put anything but their email.? I wind up blindly approving new folks there, as we are hardly a magnet for anybody not in the neighborhood.

Is there a way we can do this sort of vetting on Groups.io?


 

On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:06 PM, Valerie Bock wrote:
Is there a way we can do this sort of vetting on Groups.io?
Yes; set up a Pending Subscription Message; this will automatically be sent to anyone who applies to join, and you can ask them to explain their interest in your group and admit them (or otherwise) depending on their reply.
That "Pending Subscription Message" will be sent to anyone who applies to join, and the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice that is sent to Owner/Moderator will both be sent at the same time, which starts a 14 day clock before the subscription application is automatically deleted.
Unfortunately at this time, there is no automatic way to not start that clock until a reply is sent to the "Pending Subscription Message".

The "Pending Subscription Message" will not delay the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice, however an Owner/Moderator can put the 14 day clock on hold by 'Claiming' the application.
Click on "View Pending Member" in the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice email,
or go to the group's website: Admin > Members
Select "Pending Members" (in the drop-down Members menu) if not already shown
Click on the row (not the check box) of the Pending Member
Click on "Claim Sub" at bottom of the page
The words "Claimed by <your name>" will appear in a blue box to the right of the applicant's email address
Now the 14 clock has been stopped and only you can approve this Subscription by email.
NOTE: All Owners and any Moderator (with appropriate privileges) can still approve this Subscription at anytime at the website.
This allows you to wait until you get a reply to the "Pending Subscription Message", while removing the 'approve by email' option to other Owners and Moderators.

To resend the "Pending Subscription Message" (if you get no response):
Check the box at the left end of that Pending Member's row
Select "Resend Pending Membership Notice" in the drop-down "Actions" menu
Click "Yes" in the "Verify Action" dialog window.


 

Please explain how to set up a pending subscription message.
Thanks!


 

In order to get that information, do they just reply to the pending subscription message they get?


 

On Oct 23, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Linda Liao <lmdong@...> wrote:

In order to get that information, do they just reply to the pending subscription message they get?
Replies from a pending member to the "Pending Subscription Message" are sent to: <your Group Email Address>[email protected]
If your group were: LindaLiaoGroup
it goes to: [email protected]

It will be received by all Owners and Moderators (of your group) who have their
Subscription > Owner Email
set to "All Emails"

If you are an Owner (or Moderator with appropriate permission) you can set any of your Owner's or Moderator's 'Owner Email' at:
Admin > Members
Click on their row (do not check the box next to their name)
and set 'Owner Email' to "All Emails"


 

I found the Member notices button finally!! At the top of the settings page!!


 

Hi Janis,

In Admin, Settings. ?(You must scroll down the menu on the left side to Settings)
Then there are tabs on that page - Member Notices is the fourth tab.

See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances
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