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Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group


 

Unable to "invite" <[email protected]> to become a member of my existing Yahoo group, which is Step 3 in the transfer process.

To invite new members, Yahoo requires that they have a "Yahoo ID" [account] with a valid Yahoo email address.
SHAME on IO for not knowing this, and simply providing <[email protected]>.
And stupid of me to have pre-paid $220 (in STEP 1) without being able to execute Step 3.

I seek a way out of this, either:
1) Finding a way to invite a valid Yahoo-ID equivalent of <[email protected]>
or
2) Getting my money back, for blatant misrepresentation on the part of IO


 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:07 PM, Doug wrote:
SHAME on IO for not knowing this, and simply providing <[email protected]>
Thousands of groups have been transferred using the information, so I'm not sure what your problem is.? Try going to /g/GroupManagersForum/message/24431 and carefully following all the steps, IN ORDER.

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You cannot send an invitation? Are you a moderator or owner of the Yahoo group?

I just recently completed my 10th or so transfer, maybe Yahoo will no longer allow you to invite members?

I noticed things changed a bit on Yahoo groups, but I went to one of my Yahoo groups and I can still make invitations.

Greg


 

Doug,

As several have and will point out, it's a valid ID that's been used by a very large number of Yahoo refugees. Just one thought, you have tried just [email protected]?rather than <[email protected]>?

Derek


 

Doug,


To invite new members, Yahoo requires that they have a "Yahoo ID" [account] with a valid Yahoo email address.

The text on the Invite Members page says you can enter an email address. See the screen shot at Step 3 here:

SHAME on IO for not knowing this, and simply providing <[email protected]>.

Yeah, like you're the first person to ever try this.

And stupid of me to have pre-paid $220 (in STEP 1) without being able to execute Step 3.

Well, that may be true.

On that same wiki page see the section Test your ability to promote members in your Yahoo Group -- In Step 4 you have one more requirement beyond simply inviting the transfer address.
Shal


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Tried all flavors, Derek -- with and without < > and "? "

Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.
You can invite 100 more members today.
Send email to invite people to join your group. Enter email addresses or Yahoo IDs separated by commas.You can add first name and last name of the members you are inviting.? Example: firstname lastname <emailid@...>

Invited users need to accept the invitation, sign-in with their Yahoo ID to become members.


On Friday, November 22, 2019, 2:24:31 PM EST, Derek Milliner <derek.milliner@...> wrote:


Doug,

As several have and will point out, it's a valid ID that's been used by a very large number of Yahoo refugees. Just one thought, you have tried just [email protected]?rather than <[email protected]>?

Derek


 

Doug,



Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

That's been a common Yahoo error ever since the 2013 Neo redesign.

The "browser ritual" might help:

Shal

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Friday, November 22nd, 2019
4:08 PM, DC Time, First Try
4:33 PM, DC Time, Second Try
5:08 PM, DC Time, Third Try

(Responding to Doug Boulton's message to the group at 2:05 PM today)

I'm having the same problem, Doug, and await any explanation or correction that Groups.Io has to offer. Haven't seen anything on it so far.

Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what's going on?

Charles Stevenson
Northern virginia
anjinsan AT geotrees com


 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:17 PM, CStevenson/Geotrees.Com wrote:
Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what's going on?
If we're talking about the "error while loading the content" problem, it's a bug in Yahoo Groups, not groups.io ... and it happens A LOT.

The answer is what Shal said (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24570).

Keep trying, refreshing the page beforehand, or even try a different browser. Oh and by the way, you must be an Owner of the Yahoo group, or a Moderator with "promote" permissions. If you're not, find someone who is.

Good luck,
Bruce


 

Charles:

I switched from a Mac (at home) to a PC for public use at my local library, and, using Internet Explorer, was finally able to send the "invitation" out to [email protected]

Where it goes from here is anybody's guess, but at least the pawn has advanced one small (but important) step forward . . .

On Friday, November 22, 2019, 5:17:58 PM EST, CStevenson/Geotrees.Com <anjinsan@...> wrote:


Friday, November 22nd, 2019
4:08 PM, DC Time, First Try
4:33 PM, DC Time, Second Try
5:08 PM, DC Time, Third Try

(Responding to Doug Boulton's message to the group at 2:05 PM today)

I'm having the same problem, Doug, and await any explanation or correction that Groups.Io has to offer.? Haven't seen anything on it so far.

Has anyone else had this problem?? Does anyone know what's going on?

Charles Stevenson
Northern virginia
anjinsan AT geotrees com




 

One of the yahoogroups on which I used to be able to issue invitations no longer allows me to do so for the past couple of weeks.? And another yahoo group used to allow me to appoint other moderators, but I can't now.? As of now, that means the transfers of both those groups are dead in the water due to absentee owners.? I keep trying on yahoo, figuring if it glitched one way, perhaps it will glitch back the other way.? One did the other day, allowing me to invite and change groups.io to moderator, but within five minutes it reverted back, apparently before the changes could take place.? Frustrating.

Dennis S.


 


 

Hi all,

I'm not one of the folks here who are extremely familiar with the mechanics of groups.io --

but last year when we were having groups.io transfer several large groups, I remember having to make repeated attempts to have YAHOO do stuff -- and this is NOT a problem on the groups.io side, this is Yahoo being messed up. It took me, as group owner and group moderator, multiple attempts to successfully invite groups.io as a member, because yahoo groups was just being funky.? I got the purple message a number of times, and other times it just didn't work.? And then one day, the nth time, I was able to invite them successfully. ? And of course now, yahoo is getting more and more messed up.?

So please don't leap to the conclusion that groups.io is evil or conning us or whatever --? I think Mark and all are doing a huge amount of work, and they're trying hard to complete transfers IN SPITE OF how yahoo groups is falling apart.

So, one could say "shame on yahoo groups", but there is **zero** reason to say "shame on groups.io".

And the meta:
And one thing that frequently happens, when someone is doing a significant service, and working really hard, and is addressing/helping some messy problem -- one thing that frequently happens is that people yell at THEM, rather than yelling at the cause of the messy problem.

And that is really really discouraging, to the people working really hard, the people who developed new things.? Gesine?


 

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 12:17 AM, Gesine wrote:

And one thing that frequently happens, when someone is doing a significant service, and working really hard, and is addressing/helping some messy problem -- one thing that frequently happens is that people yell at THEM, rather than yelling at the cause of the messy problem.

And that is really really discouraging, to the people working really hard, the people who developed new things.

Gesine -- Thanks for your kind words of support.

Folks can't yell at Yahoo, because there's no one on the other end....so you end up unloading on anyone who will listen, which is frequently right here in GMF. It's all unfortunate, and unfair, but it is human nature. I for one am growing accustomed to it, and it's nice to know it will all be over in a couple months.

Meanwhile, here's a reminder that we do still have the IHateYahooGroups group where people having problems along these lines can go and vent their spleen.

Regards,
Bruce


 

So, just to be sure, the OP's problem, to not be able to invite [email protected] was a brower issue on a Mac, and was solved on a PC.

Just checking since I can still exercise the "invite" option on my old Yahoo groups.

Greg


 

So, just to be sure, the OP's problem, to not be able to invite?[email protected]?was a brower issue on a Mac, and was solved on a PC.

Just checking since I can still exercise the "invite" option on my old Yahoo groups.

Greg, see this message:
/yahootransfer

And?

/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24643
A sticky on the GMF list of topics.?

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Dennis Steckley wrote:
One of the yahoogroups on which I used to be able to issue invitations no longer allows me to do so for the past couple of weeks.? And another yahoo group used to allow me to appoint other moderators, but I can't now.? As of now, that means the transfers of both those groups are dead in the water due to absentee owners.? I keep trying on yahoo, figuring if it glitched one way, perhaps it will glitch back the other way.? One did the other day, allowing me to invite and change groups.io to moderator, but within five minutes it reverted back, apparently before the changes could take place.? Frustrating.

Dennis, are you using an ID that does not end in @yahoo.com to moderate? You know, Yahoo issued an email (pretty cryptic) stating that only people with yahoo.com accounts could be administrators. (It never occurred to me that this was a precursor to the shutdown.) At that time, I created a Yahoo.com account and made it a moderator, too. I continued to use my old ID for everything, actually having two email addresses associated with the same group.

Now that the shutdown is occurring, I wanted to back my group up, so I got PG Offline. It could not download the group using my old ID. I had to use the Yahoo ID. Could you be having the same issue?

BTW, the email also stated that the accounts with non-Yahoo domains that Yahoo services (ymail, rocketmail, sbcglobal, bellsouth, ameritech, att, etc.) were included in the disallowed group; they could not be administrators.

Larry