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Today I found that I was bouncing and I am the owner and answer every letter and never leave any thing in my inbox.
So how come I was bouncing?
Now I have a member who is very sick bouncing and I can't change this. Is there any way for me to unbounce her?
Thanks
Anita
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Anita, So how come I was bouncing? Go to your subscription page in any group and click on the "Email Delivery History" button. That page should tell you what your email service told Groups.io when it refused delivery of a message. Now I have a member who is very sick bouncing and I can't change this.
Is there any way for me to unbounce her? Same thing, but start by clicking on her row (anywhere except the checkbox) in your group's Membership list. If her row has a blue B then Groups.io is still trying to unbounce her by sending occasional probe messages. She needs to respond to one of those to prove that her email address is still working. If her row has a red B then Groups.io has given up, but you can ask for a bounce probe to be sent. Regardless, she must receive and respond to the probe message in order to unbounce her email address. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Shal thanks for telling me how to find out.
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It is weird because it said my email which is yahoo for years was not a yahoo account.
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I unbounced myself and now it is working. Wondering why that happened?
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 am, Anita L wrote:
It is weird because it said my email which is yahoo for years was not a yahoo account.
The same thing happened to a Y!Mail user in my group this morning. Perhaps it was a system glitch in one of their mail servers. Bruce
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Bruce sounds like it is a problem yahoo is having. I did write to them but did not get an answer yet.
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I already gave up on yahoogroups and love it here at iogroups. If this is how verizon is handling things I am going to change my email and give up on this yahoo mail which I have had for years.
Really sad what verizon is doing to yahoo.
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Out of the 31 members I have bouncing, all but 3 are Yahoo. In one instance, I looked at the "Email Delivery History" and saw that the response was: 421 4.7.0 [TS01] Messages from 66.175.222.12 temporarily deferred - 4.16.55.2; see ?
The link, of course, is dead, but a little research on the web says that Yahoo Mail will bounce emails with this message if it gets too much activity from the same IP address. You would think that Yahoo would know about Groups.io by this point and enter it as an exception, so maybe they're not changing it on purpose.
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Hi Anita, I don't think it is a Verizon issue as much as
Verizon getting a bag of you know what, when they bought Yahoo. We know
that Groups were major messed up & that mail had problems. They also
got a poor count on the number of mail users because of all the unused
Yahoo email addresses created for Groups that are never use. Of course
it was up to Verizon to do Due Diligence on the purchase.
I
recommend that if you haven't already added a non-Yahoo ID as an owner
of your Group(s) that you do so immediately. I have a gmail ID that I've
made an owner along with several Co-Owners of my groups.
When I get the time, I'll dump my Yahoo email that I've used for over 15 years.
Paul, Ohio, USA
On Thursday, March 15, 2018, 5:29:43 PM EDT,
Anita L via Groups.Io <atinalee@...> wrote:Bruce
sounds like it is a problem yahoo is having. I did write to them but
did not get an answer yet.I already gave up on yahoo groups and love it
here at iogroups. If this is how Verizon is handling things I am going
to change my email and give up on this yahoo mail which I have had for
years.Really sad what Verizon is doing to yahoo.
Anita
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Also on the topic of bouncing, we transferred 1100 members. At first we had about 65 bouncing addresses on groups.io. In the 3 weeks since we transferred, the list is up to 110. Without counting, I would say about 90% of those are Yahoo addresses. I just looked at the membership list on the old Yahoo list and it shows 0 bouncing members. Doesn't make sense to me.?
The hard-bounce members have the following message: "554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (xxxx@...) [0] - mta4252.mail.bf1.yahoo.com"
The soft-bounce members have the following message: "54 delivery error: dd Requested mail action aborted - mta4244.mail.bf1.yahoo.com"
I was able to contact one (former) member who is on Facebook and he confirmed that he changed his email AND no longer wanted to be part of the group. That one was easy. Now we have 109 bouncing members.
Can anyone help me understand this one?
Dave
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David I do believe it is a verizon issue. Before verizon took over I never had these problems.
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Paul thanks. I do have a gmail email but have had yahoo for years and have so many saved emails there that are important to me. I can change the groups to my gmail here.
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Slowly try and move my letters to gmail. Then I will either close yahoo or just not use it.
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Dave, Also on the topic of bouncing, we transferred 1100 members. At first
we had about 65 bouncing addresses on groups.io. Those were likely addresses that had been bad for some time, but which Y!Group's mechanism failed to change to Bouncing status. In the 3 weeks since we transferred, the list is up to 110. The later bouncers are likely Yahoo Mail users being affected by the current rash of apparent glitches in Yahoo Mail (wrongly rejecting messages because it temporarily thinks "This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account"). Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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I'm going to report this to Mark at support immediately, but thought I'd let this group know: I have log entries that many yahoo-email members are bouncing, INCLUDING a couple who are no longer in the group due to having been banned or left. Something is very messed up and this is alarming.?
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:41 pm, Shal Farley wrote: The later bouncers are likely Yahoo Mail users being affected by the
current rash of apparent glitches in Yahoo Mail (wrongly rejecting
messages because it temporarily thinks "This user doesn't have a
yahoo.com account"). In my group I have 474 members in red bouncing status. All have Yahoo accounts. I am not sure which is the best way to deal with this. I am thinking of sending a notice/alert in the group (in case bouncing members at least read posts online) and then simply delete all bouncing accounts. Any better suggestions? Marina
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Marina I don't think they need to delete their email account. All they have to do is go to iogroups and reactivate the bounce. I did that yesterday and now my email is fine.
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I decided I don't want to get rid of my yahoo email. I will just watch if I bounce.
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You can just tell your members to go to the iogroups and make sure they are not bouncing.
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Just as a data-point, in our 376 member group, we have 91 members using Y! email accounts.? None of them are bouncing.? That said, our group is very low volume, typically one or two messages a week.
Bill
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I'm getting at least two yahoo members bouncing per day, sometimes unbouncing and then bouncing again. I've warned my group members to consider changing their email address if they're using yahoo email.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Bill Feidt <w.b.feidt@...> wrote: Just as a data-point, in our 376 member group, we have 91 members using Y! email accounts.? None of them are bouncing.? That said, our group is very low volume, typically one or two messages a week.
Bill
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How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?
Margaret P
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:01 pm, A and M Parker wrote:
How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?
Go to Admin > Members, click on the top left drop down box and select Bouncing to see only the bouncing members.? You can then click on any member line any place except the check box to see their subscription and do more in depth analysis if you want. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:47 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Margaret,
Thanks Shal and Duane Margaret
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Anita L
Shal Farley
Bruce Bowman
Bill Feidt
Duane