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I've begun creating a group so I can move a group I own from Yahoo. I'm unclear on the archive privacy options, and searches haven't clarified the choices.

What I want is what I have on Yahoo: a publicly listed group with members having access to all files for the group, but people who are not group members cannot view the files (photos, text files, old messages, etc).

Is this considered "private" or "public"? I would have thought it would be private, but the wording is ambiguous - a publicly listed group with public archives might mean either that non-members can see the archives or that archives are available only to members.

Thanks for help with this newbie question!

Holly
 

Holly,

What I want is what I have on Yahoo: a publicly listed group with
members having access to ... old messages ... but people who are not
group members cannot view the ... old messages,
Under Visibility choose "Group listed in directory, private messages". That's in the Privacy section of your group's Settings page.

Note that you'll be warned that once you make your messages private you cannot later make them public again. That is true with Yahoo Groups as well.

but people who are not group members cannot view the files (photos,
text files, etc).
The access controls for other areas of your group are further down the Settings page, in the Features section. Of those only the Wiki and the Calendar can be given public (non-member) read-only access. Chats, Database, Files, and Photos cannot be made available to non-members.

Is this considered "private" or "public"? I would have thought it
would be private, but the wording is ambiguous - a publicly listed
group with public archives might mean either that non-members can see
the archives or that archives are available only to members.
I don't see how that's ambiguous, but in any case the wording there has recently been changed, replacing "archives" with "messages" for greater clarity on the scope of the control.

Shal


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Holly
 

I started the process of creating a group just this morning. It still says "archives", not "messages". I saw nothing called "visibility", possibly because when I wrote this message I hadn't completed the process of creating the group. I see visibility under settings now, which of course wasn't available before creating the group.

I did a further search in the archives / messages of this list and found a post of yours from Feb 27 that said private would allow members, but not non-members, to view files, so that's what I picked.

On 03/24/2018 02:31 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Holly,

> What I want is what I have on Yahoo:? a publicly listed group with
> members having access to ... old messages ... but people who are not
> group members cannot view the ... old messages,
Under Visibility choose "Group listed in directory, private messages". That's in the Privacy section of your group's Settings page.
Note that you'll be warned that once you make your messages private you cannot later make them public again. That is true with Yahoo Groups as well.

> but people who are not group members cannot view the files (photos,
> text files, etc).
The access controls for other areas of your group are further down the Settings page, in the Features section. Of those only the Wiki and the Calendar can be given public (non-member) read-only access. Chats, Database, Files, and Photos cannot be made available to non-members.

> Is this considered "private" or "public"?? I would have thought it
> would be private, but the wording is ambiguous - a publicly listed
> group with public archives might mean either that non-members can see
> the archives or that archives are available only to members.
I don't see how that's ambiguous, but in any case the wording there has recently been changed, replacing "archives" with "messages" for greater clarity on the scope of the control.
Shal
 

Holly,

I started the process of creating a group just this morning. It still
says "archives", not "messages". I saw nothing called "visibility",
possibly because when I wrote this message I hadn't completed the
process of creating the group. I see visibility under settings now,
which of course wasn't available before creating the group.
Yes, oops. I was thinking of the Settings page, I'll poke Mark to make the corresponding wording change in the Group Creation page.

I did a further search in the archives / messages of this list and
found a post of yours from Feb 27 that said private would allow
members, but not non-members, to view files, so that's what I picked.
Note I said "messages". The Visibility control affects only your directory listing and your messages. Files are controlled in the Features section.

Shal


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