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SMS / Phone Text


Mike Vorkapich
 

Is there now or is there a future plan to include the ability to send SMS / Text messages to phones?
One of the groups I am managing contains a bunch of people that almost never use email but very often phone texting.


 

Mike,

Is there now or is there a future plan to include the ability to send
SMS / Text messages to phones?
It has been discussed, but I don't think there's a plan.


One issue is that there's a cost for sending them, so it would have to be a paid group, or paid memberships, or something (see Mark's reply in the second message of that topic).

That topic is now locked, so you'd have to start a new one to bring it up again.

Shal


Mike Vorkapich
 

Thanks Shal,

Do you know if using email to text would work? ie 1234567890@...?

Michael Vorkapich

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mike,

> Is there now or is there a future plan to include the ability to send
> SMS / Text messages to phones?

It has been discussed, but I don't think there's a plan.


One issue is that there's a cost for sending them, so it would have to be a paid group, or paid memberships, or something (see Mark's reply in the second message of that topic).

That topic is now locked, so you'd have to start a new one to bring it up again.

Shal





 

Michael,

Do you know if using email to text would work? ie
1234567890@... ?
I don't know.

It has been ages (when I owned a basic flip-phone) since I've tried using a carrier's SMS gateway with an email list (a Yahoo Group). I seem to recall that I made it work, sort-of, but it wasn't very useful. Something like the 160 character limit was all consumed by the email address and other stuff, leaving no room for the message text itself.

In Groups.io the first challenge would be getting the gateway address confirmed - you'd have to be able to reply to the confirmation message and I think that was a sticking point. Or, if you have a premium group you could avoid that problem by using Direct Add.

If you run the experiment and get a useful result that would be a nice how-to article to post here, and/or in GMF's Wiki.

Shal


Mike Vorkapich
 

OK, thanks again. We may give it a try.

Michael Vorkapich

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Michael,

> Do you know if using email to text would work? ie
> 1234567890@... ?

I don't know.

It has been ages (when I owned a basic flip-phone) since I've tried using a carrier's SMS gateway with an email list (a Yahoo Group). I seem to recall that I made it work, sort-of, but it wasn't very useful. Something like the 160 character limit was all consumed by the email address and other stuff, leaving no room for the message text itself.

In Groups.io the first challenge would be getting the gateway address confirmed - you'd have to be able to reply to the confirmation message and I think that was a sticking point. Or, if you have a premium group you could avoid that problem by using Direct Add.

If you run the experiment and get a useful result that would be a nice how-to article to post here, and/or in GMF's Wiki.

Shal





Mike Vorkapich
 

So the quick answer to this is that it works. If you add someone as a user through the normal process but use phonenumber@carrier then they will receive text messages when a post is made. However, you cannot reply via text, it gets rejected by Groups.io. I assume because it's missing all the email headers. You can, however, click on the "View/Reply Online" link and reply in a mobile web browser.

Michael Vorkapich

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Mike Vorkapich <mvorkapich@...> wrote:
OK, thanks again. We may give it a try.

Michael Vorkapich

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Michael,

> Do you know if using email to text would work? ie
> 1234567890@... ?

I don't know.

It has been ages (when I owned a basic flip-phone) since I've tried using a carrier's SMS gateway with an email list (a Yahoo Group). I seem to recall that I made it work, sort-of, but it wasn't very useful. Something like the 160 character limit was all consumed by the email address and other stuff, leaving no room for the message text itself.

In Groups.io the first challenge would be getting the gateway address confirmed - you'd have to be able to reply to the confirmation message and I think that was a sticking point. Or, if you have a premium group you could avoid that problem by using Direct Add.

If you run the experiment and get a useful result that would be a nice how-to article to post here, and/or in GMF's Wiki.

Shal






 

Michael,

So the quick answer to this is that it works. If you add someone as a
user through the normal process but use phonenumber@carrier then they
will receive text messages when a post is made.
Excellent!

However, you cannot reply via text, it gets rejected by Groups.io. I
assume because it's missing all the email headers.
The key is the "From" address. It must match the subscribed address or else the reply will be rejected as "not a member" (unless your group allows non-members to post). If that's what happened you should see a "Non-member" entry in the group's Message Activity log for the attempt.

If you find that entry make note of the exact email address reported. You can (when logged in under the subscribed address) add that sending address as an Email Alias on the Subscribed address' Account page, Login section. It is under the "Advanced Settings" expander at the bottom.

If the email gateway always sends replies with that same address then those should post as if posted under the subscribed address.

You can, however, click on the "View/Reply Online" link and reply in a
mobile web browser.
If your device has a mobile web browser it may be fair to ask why you're bothering with SMS rather than just using an email service. But to each his own. ;-)

Shal


Mike Vorkapich
 

Good point about the mobile web browser. But what we have going on is several people that don't ever check their emails but text constantly all day long. So never respond to email and miss notifications. As you can probably guess, this is the younger members of our group.

Michael Vorkapich

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Michael,

> So the quick answer to this is that it works. If you add someone as a
> user through the normal process but use phonenumber@carrier then they
> will receive text messages when a post is made.

Excellent!

> However, you cannot reply via text, it gets rejected by Groups.io. I
> assume because it's missing all the email headers.

The key is the "From" address. It must match the subscribed address or else the reply will be rejected as "not a member" (unless your group allows non-members to post). If that's what happened you should see a "Non-member" entry in the group's Message Activity log for the attempt.

If you find that entry make note of the exact email address reported. You can (when logged in under the subscribed address) add that sending address as an Email Alias on the Subscribed address' Account page, Login section. It is under the "Advanced Settings" expander at the bottom.

If the email gateway always sends replies with that same address then those should post as if posted under the subscribed address.

> You can, however, click on the "View/Reply Online" link and reply in a
> mobile web browser.

If your device has a mobile web browser it may be fair to ask why you're bothering with SMS rather than just using an email service. But to each his own.? ;-)

Shal