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I'm curious - any advice from those who have multiple moderators and co-owners of your groups, for the purposes of coordinating moderation behavior?? In our case, I'm considering creation of a subgroup that is restricted to moderators/owners, and private, for them to have a private place to discuss, share knowledge, training, etc.? Essentially, modeled after this very Group Managers Forum... just for our group, only.? Some of us have been moderators for ages in our legacy Yahoo group, some of us are brand new to the role and responsibilities.

Any better recommendations, or suggestions against doing it that way???

Thank you,
Bryan Jones
Kenwood-Hybrids group co-owner/moderator


 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:45 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
I'm curious - any advice from those who have multiple moderators and co-owners of your groups, for the purposes of coordinating moderation behavior?? In our case, I'm considering creation of a subgroup that is restricted to moderators/owners, and private, for them to have a private place to discuss, share knowledge, training, etc.? Essentially, modeled after this very Group Managers Forum... just for our group, only.? Some of us have been moderators for ages in our legacy Yahoo group, some of us are brand new to the role and responsibilities.

Any better recommendations, or suggestions against doing it that way???
Some groups have a mod's forum - a subgroup. You can hide the group from the main group, if you wish (doesn't show in the menu on the left.)

Frances

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:45 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
I'm curious - any advice from those who have multiple moderators and co-owners of your groups, for the purposes of coordinating moderation behavior?? In our case, I'm considering creation of a subgroup that is restricted to moderators/owners, and private, for them to have a private place to discuss, share knowledge, training, etc.? Essentially, modeled after this very Group Managers Forum... just for our group, only.? Some of us have been moderators for ages in our legacy Yahoo group, some of us are brand new to the role and responsibilities.

Any better recommendations, or suggestions against doing it that way???
Moderation works well, I think, on Groups.io
If a moderator clicks to edit a post that needs moderation, a tag shows on it "claimed by joe blow".?
See this wiki page:

Overview -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-Moderation
How to -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Approving---moderating-a-message

And of course, you can moderate totally by email.

Also I should mention you can put a note in a member file - viewable only by moderators.
Go to Admin, Members. Choose a member name. That's where you can see email delivery history. But there is a Notes button. That's where it would be.

Frances
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Frances - thank you for your input, those tips are definitely useful.? However, I was more asking about advice on the concept of using a subgroup for moderator private discussion, than on advice on how to actually perform message moderation.? Particularly, if anyone has found a more preferred way to coordinate your moderators "body of knowledge".? I think a subgroup is a good way to go to do this... just wanted to solicit for any advice before actually going forward with it.
Thank you,
Bryan


 

You can reach all moderators by using the [email protected] adress I guess


groetjes, Ronaldo


 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:58 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
However, I was more asking about advice on the concept of using a subgroup for moderator private discussion, than on advice on how to actually perform message moderation.? Particularly, if anyone has found a more preferred way to coordinate your moderators "body of knowledge".
Here on GMF, we use the +owner address to exchange information, questions, or ideas.? There's usually not that much, so not a problem for us.? We also have a database that can only be accessed by moderators with some notes in it.? Only 9 rows, so again, no problem.

If you want to keep a "large" amount of information available, then a subgroup might be the way to go.? You would have the messages, but could also set up a wiki if you want.? Lots of options on GIO, so 'outside the box' thinking may find other ways.

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Bryan,

In our case, I'm considering creation of a subgroup that is
restricted to moderators/owners, and private, for them to have a
private place to discuss, share knowledge, training, etc.
I think that's a fine idea, with just one caveat: you end up with the subdomain addressing scheme.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup#Subdomain-addressing

If you have, or are planning to have, other subgroups then you'll have that anyway, so one more subgroup is fine. Otherwise you might care because:

1) Having that addressing scheme will tip off the members to the fact that there is at least one subgroup, even if that subgroup's privacy settings prevent them from even learning its name.

2) Some people think the subdomain addressing scheme "looks funny" or is otherwise undesirable.

Essentially, modeled after this very Group Managers Forum... just for
our group, only.
Two of my Yahoo Groups have a separate group for the moderators, most do not. Sometimes it was convenient when there were things to discuss, but largely they went unused. I didn't make a subgroup for the mods of this GMF largely because the Yahoo GMF ran without a separate moderators' group and I don't think we ever missed having one.

One of my Yahoo groups that moved here years ago had a separate moderators group, and I'm quite happy having that as a subgroup now. But that group has other subgroups that the primary members can see and join.

So I think it is very much a "Your Mileage May Vary" situation. It will depend a lot on the culture, activity, and size of your group; as well as of your moderating team. GMF is a very open group, so we don't need to have private discussions about whether someone should be admitted to the group and other matters of member management. My Yahoo Groups that had mod team groups were restrictive in their membership.

Shal


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Bryan,

While the idea itself is sound, IMO, using a subgroup for this would really depend on how many mods you have and whether you want to have any conversations, attachments, files, photos, etc, archived for later reference or reuse when a new mod comes in, etc; if yes, a (private) subgroup would work great with all the features GIO has, although keep in mind that if you don't already have a subgroup already, there are some addressing changes that take place as stated.

Taking into account the caveats already been stated, if you don't care about archiving anything or have maybe a few mods, it'll be less work just doing it through an email list; or use the +owner address as suggested, but keep in mind in this case, in order for this to work effectively, all mods will have to have the receive owner email to ON otherwise this scheme will not work well.

Cheers,
Christos


 

Most mail programs have a feature where mail can be sent to more than one address at a time, i.e., a group of sorts.? Unless there are many, many mods, wouldn't it be easy enough for each mod to have such a group [example:? mygroupmods, which would open to a listing of a number? addresses in each address book]????? I've used group sends often on various lists, such as a book club, and all that's required is that each person responding does so using "reply all."

Certainly someone chosen to act as a moderator should be able to do that with little difficulty, and unless there are files involved, communication is a snap!

No setting up of extra sub-groups, just a simple address list on the mods' own computers.

Sandy

At 01:32 PM 1/11/2020, you wrote:

Bryan,

While the idea itself is sound, IMO, using a subgroup for this would really depend on how many mods you have and whether you want to have any conversations, attachments, files, photos, etc, archived for later reference or reuse when a new mod comes in, etc; if yes, a (private) subgroup would work great with all the features GIO has, although keep in mind that if you don't already have a subgroup already, there are some addressing changes that take place as stated.

Taking into account the caveats already been stated, if you don't care about archiving anything or have maybe a few mods, it'll be less work just doing it through an email list; or use the +owner address as suggested, but keep in mind in this case, in order for this to work effectively, all mods will have to have the receive owner email to ON otherwise this scheme will not work well.

Cheers,
Christos


 

hi peeps,
For one of the groups I run, which has multiple moderators of differing levels of experience, we made a **separate** group, for us moderators.

Works well.?

Part of why we decided to make a separate group is, one of the mods is very un-savvy re tech/internet stuff, and we wanted to keep the "moderator discussion group" definitely separate than the group itself.? Gesine?


 

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 01:59 AM, Gesine wrote:

hi peeps,
For one of the groups I run, which has multiple moderators of differing levels of experience, we made a **separate** group, for us moderators.

Works well.?

Part of why we decided to make a separate group is, one of the mods is very un-savvy re tech/internet stuff, and we wanted to keep the "moderator discussion group" definitely separate than the group itself.? Gesine?

^^^? THIS!

Thank you all for the advice; it's all been very helpful.? In our case, we already have another subgroup, so the creation of another subgroup (the resultant change to the main group addressing) isn't a concern.??

Gesine has put into words what I see as the greatest benefit for us, which is that, while we don't have a very large group of moderators (5), we are at varying levels of experience, and so I would like to have a place to document tips, tricks, guidance, as well as for us to discuss the same.

Mainly, wasn't sure if anyone had found a particularly better way to do this... I appreciate all the input.

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Kenwood-hybrids co-owner/moderator