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Ken,

The email address that GIO uses to create the new GIO account is the one they used for their Yahoo group account.? Many of us (me included) do not use a yahoo account for that.? My yahoo account is tied to my own email address (not my yahoo email address).? My yahoo account simply gets my facebook notices so I never even look at it.? If you used a hotmail account to create your yahoo profile then that is the address that gets used and as such is the address that GIO uses to create the account at groups.io...if you do not already have an account (many of us do since we are members of many groups).

Yes you as the requester and owner can choose to exclude members but why would you want to?? If you do that then that is going to create a BIG problem because Mark has to first create members at GIO before bringing over emails because those emails get accredited to the original owner and if the original owner account does not get created then there is a problem.? Membership creation is the first step in the process and for good reason.? One fly in that ointment is that email accounts get created for those members of the yahoo group that are not listed in bounce status.? Also files and photos copied over are also listed as being owned by the original owner/poster and if they are not members (yet) then those files become listed as owned by you (the listed group owner).

Maybe that is not what you were asking but I hope that clarifies things.

Jim Pruitt

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 03:23 PM, ken pimentel wrote:

Can we use the automatic transfer to bring over everything except members?

You can, but it's not recommended if you have files and/or photos.? Without the member information, ownership of all items goes to the group owner.? There IS a way to assign ownership of photos after the fact, but not files.? All of that type of information (and a lot more) is included in /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home

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That all makes sense. Thanks for answering the question so quickly. I guess the problem we’ll have is that since we’ve manually created new user accounts using different emails from the Yahoo group, we will have duplication of members with both their Yahoo membership and their new membership. I imagine we have to let the members individually decide what to do about that. The options seem to be:

Ken,

The options seem to be:
1) Keep two accounts in Group.io
2) Delete one or the other account in Group.io

3) Merge the account with the old address into the the account with the new address.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts
(bottom section)

I see the logic of preserving all the Yahoo member IDs to track the
threads/rights to the files.

The merge option does that as well.

Shal


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Just to follow up. Our planned transfer was also to just move message history over and not our members since a majority of our users created yahoo accounts to use yahoo groups. It made it difficult to track members as it would be different from their paid membership emails. ?Some had linked to yahoo profiles while others hadn’t, it was all over the place. ?I was kind of hoping for a clean slate.

so when moving message history over, would all of those messages point to the group owner as the person who posted it? ?We don’t have many files or attachments on this group. It’s just really the message history we wanted to preserve. ?I’m just wondering if we need to update our transfer to do members also. ?

thanks for your help!

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 06:20 AM, Linda Liao wrote:

so when moving message history over, would all of those messages point to the group owner as the person who posted it?

It should show the actual name/id of the poster.

It's possible to merge two accounts, such as the Yahoo email address and their current email address, if you/they want to do that.? In that case, you could have members copied as well.

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Thanks. So is it just that they wouldn’t be able to claim ownership of their past messages? Or if they do happen to sign up with the same email, would it somehow find their old messages??

I don’t know how big a deal this would be, just don’t want all the messages to look like they came from one of the group owners.?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:00 PM, Linda Liao wrote:

Or if they do happen to sign up with the same email, would it somehow find their old messages??

IMHO this topic is generating more than enough unnecessary and avoidable confusion. It will be much better to allow a full migration of members and sort out any anomalies afterwards.?

A transfer from a Yahoo group should ideally start with nobody but the owner who set up the group within Groups.io in that recipient group. Yahoo vaguaries willing everything is then migrated from the old host to the new. OK; some members might not want to continue using a Yahoo email address, but there is nothing to stop them merging (as outlined above)? or even members simply editing the email address of the Account in question. N.B: email addresses are an Account level feature, not a Group level one.

I can accept that the entire migration process can be a little nail - biting, with all sorts of "unknowns" (real or peceived) to deal with; why then add to the potential for confusion by tinkering with email addresses at the same time??

At the risk of repeating myself leave things as they are until the transfer has been completed, then and only then look to see what member - level changes are required.

Chris

Thanks for your advice, Chris. ?Our member numbers stay relatively constant, but a decent proportion of members are added and dropped every year. So a lot of past posts are from former members who will not get transferred. I assume like Duane said that just gets posted with their id/email. I just didn’t want them all looking like I wrote all those messages as a group owner.?

Sorry to add to any confusion. You guys are handling these questions so well, trying to learn as I go.