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Has anyone?experienced this?? A few (not all) pix that I placed on a wiki page months ago are gone --? and I'm left with the dreaded broken image icon in page display mode and a sized correctly blank photo spade holder in edit mode.?

Where did they go?
Are pix added to a wiki page stored in some wiki space, or in the photos folders? Or....?
Can one paste in an image? or must it be added thru the diag box?
I noticed that the browse box to locate a local image can also accept a URL to a pic --- is that referenced in each viewing, or is that uploaded to IO and saved (again, where)?

Has anyone experienced this broken/missing pix issue?

Thanks?in advance (as my good buddy Steve S, owner of "Writing at Work" laments in his classes, "Why, too busy to thank someone when s/he helps you?" (-;

Ken

update.

It appears that the errant pix have the URL

/g/GROUP_NAME/draftattachment/2248298/4/PHOTO_NAME

The good ones have a URL of:
/g/GROUP_NAME/wikiimage/2631

and

blob:/a8c3eaea-ed2a-4a80-ad64-0deb9e684cf0?
(NO GROUP NAME!!!??!!)

and

blob:/e80feb48-9137-4747-ac45-2bc69ffa1d69
(NO GROUP NAME!!!??!!)

Has anyone seen these different type locations b4, or can help decipher this?

I also looked at a few Wiki pages that have broken photos.? The ones that work have:
data:image/png;base64, (long string of data) in the page source code so it looks like it's embedded in the page.? Looking at the view source within the wiki editor they are all blobs.

The ones that are broken are off-site URLs and have an id="clipImage" attribute.

It appears that what/how it's stored depends on the method used by the person that added the pictures.? Embedding looks like it works best.

Duane
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Now you’re about 10 feet above my head. Not sure exactly (or even a lower standard) what you’re saying.

Does this belong in a BUG report?

Ken,

Now you’re about 10 feet above my head. Not sure exactly (or even a
lower standard) what you’re saying.

I've just encountered a missing photo in GMF's wiki. In that case it was one that I put there as a screen shot. I captured the screenshot in Firefox using its built-in Take a Screenshot function. I've done that with a lot of screenshots in the wiki (and in messages).

The key "mistake" I made with that one was uploading the screenshot so that I could edit it (blacked out an email address). After saving it I copy and pasted to the wiki edit box as normal. But instead of transferring the image file to Groups.io for storage, for reasons I don't fully understand what I pasted turned out to be a remote reference to the image stored wherever Firefox stores such things.

Alas, that storage is temporary; when my screenshot expired from their storage it became the empty box on the wiki page. Broken link.

So, I just replaced the image. This time I downloaded it to my computer and edited it there. So now I'm confident that the paste operation copied the image file over to Groups.io's server, as there would be no other place (on the web) it could be stored.

Does this belong in a BUG report?

Yes, I think.

Groups.io could detect that case (remote image storage) and automatically download and store the image file for you. Then it wouldn't spontaneously vanish.

Or maybe there needs to be a storage option for wiki images.

There is sometimes a reason to use remotely referenced images intentionally - that way the image files don't count against your group's storage quota. But that also requires that you trust the site where you're keeping the image file to keep it and serve it up reliably.

I've often used my (Pro) Flickr account to host images for me; as that is a use case specifically allowed and supported by them (or was before Smugmug bought them, I may have to check on that).

Before this topic I would have said "no" - the user who pastes in a remote image wants it to be remote. But this Firefox feature makes it way too easy to do that by mistake. So in a "least astonishment" world, automatically storing the image at Groups.io now seems to me the most sensible approach.

Shal


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