Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation
|
Hi -- I've managed email lists and forum sites in the past and am wondering whether I am missing a more elegant way to move a post to the appropriate topic?
So far, I've found I can copy the text of the original post to the desired topic and choose not to spam everybody with a resend, and optionally remove the original post. More robust platforms offer the option for a moderator to remove a post from one topic and put it under another without having to change attribution etc.? Is this a feature I am just missing, or something to consider as an enhancement? Valerie |
|
Valerie,
More robust platforms offer the option for a moderator to remove aThe feature exists, but as it stands it is far from facile or trouble-free. What you have to do is split the misplaced message out of the topic it landed in (unless it is already stand-alone, or unless the rest of that topic should go with), and then merge that topic (the misplaced message) with the topic it should have been in. These (in need of some TLC) instructions are linked from the home page of our (GMF's) wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Split-Threads /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads The trouble comes in if the topic in question is still active. That is, specifically, if someone replies by email to the (formerly) misplaced messages. Those replies will (most likely) have the wrong Subject text and become new topics of their own. Requiring further merge efforts. And replies to those replies, and so on. If the group is fully (or mostly) moderated you can head (some of) that off by putting the correct subject on the replies while they are in the pending list. But not every group runs that way, nor are moderators always that attentive. There have been some rumblings in beta about needed improvements, but I don't know if that's likely in the near term. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Thanks for the very complete answer.? The split and re-merge solution does seem kind of awkward, but I can see the logic behind it. Something a little less complex would be an improvement! On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Valerie, |
|
Shal,
Could not the 'split', then 'merged' (i.e., merged) topic keep the same name (or mostly the same name) but be distinguished from the orignal topic by using a hashtag on the original topic to set it a part from the moved message that was split off? Or does that still leave a partial problem? Just curious . . . Paul M. == |
|
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:42 pm, Valerie Bock wrote:
The split and re-merge solution does seem kind of awkward, but I can see the logic behind it.It is awkward but versatile. No matter how convenient it is made, emails will still be going out with the original, "wrong" subject line.? The same is true with the message editing option, only worse...someone posts a message, it immediately goes out, only to have the original poster edit it so the content is different from what everyone previously got. In this case the poster/editor has the option to re-send to the group, but many of them don't, leading to confusion.* You can achieve Facebook-like behavior by doing what Facebook does...set everybody to "no email" and force your subscribers to read things on the web.?It's either that, or moderate all posts and send back the noncompliant ones. Hope this helps, Bruce *I might actually allow message editing if there was a configuration option to disable "no resend,"? |
|
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:03 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
In this case the poster/editor has the option to re-send to the group, but many of them don't NOT resending is only an option for a moderator.? An edit by a regular member will always be sent again. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
|
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:08 am, Duane wrote:
NOT resending is only an option for a moderator.?See, this is one of those undocumented things that I never run across because I own all of the groups that I participate in. I guess I need to incrementally take away my own privileges and see what other surprises are in store...or create a second member account as Duane suggested. Thanks Duane! Bruce |
|
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:37 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
I own all of the groups that I participate in (except this one Many of us create a separate 'member' account on our groups so we can see and test this sort of thing.? Might minimize the surprises later. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
|
Paul,
Could not the 'split', then 'merged' (i.e., merged) topic keep theIn the scenario I was describing the misplaced message already had the wrong subject, which is (in part) why it was misplaced from correct topic. In that case the temporary subject I give it when splitting it (if that's necessary) doesn't really matter because no email will be sent with that particular subject. Then when I merge it into the correct topic the temporary subject will disappear altogether from the Messages list. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Bruce,
... (except this one, where editing is disabled anyway).No, it isn't. Perhaps you're thinking of beta? Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhy would editing a past post be helpful?...If that¡¯s what¡¯s been talked about. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of RickGlaz ? I've done the multiple memberships with different permissions for Years. (At Y!) |
|
Rick,
Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the oldNotably that example is a change to the metadata about the message, not a change to the message content itself. Message content changes only through explicit edits to the content. Either by the posting member him/herself (if allowed by the group) or by a moderator. And when a post has been edited, it gains an Edited badge next to its posting date. Clicking that badge takes you to a list of revisions. As J said, prior revisions must be explicitly deleted else they stay there and one can use the compare function to see what was changed. For example: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/6474 Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:43 pm, Don wrote:
Why would editing a past post be helpful? One of my groups is for technical help.? We sometimes edit posts to correct errors, such as a part number, so that someone searching later doesn't find bad information that leads them on a wild goose chase.? I believe that's the most common type of usage. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Valerie Bock
Shal Farley
Epicatt2
Bruce Bowman
Duane
Don Grass