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ERROR message: "That email address is already registered" #alias


 

Regarding ERROR message: "That email address is already registered", received when trying to define alias email address for account.

BACKGROUND:? I have/had memberships in several Yahoo Groups.? Some of these Yahoo groups reference one of my email addresses, some Yahoo groups reference a different email address, and some even reference a third Email address.? But all of these Yahoo Groups referenced me as a single, common Yahoo-ID; so prior to recent migrations to GROUPS.IO, I could login as one Yahoo-ID to review and/or moderate any of these Yahoo groups.?? In reality, I have membership in over a hundred Yahoo Groups; and own or moderate several.

SAMPLE SCENARIO (to illustrate my concern with simplified group and email addresses):?
  1. Yahoo group "aaa" references my Email address "me4aaa@...".
  2. Yahoo group "bbb" references my Email address "me4bbb@...".
  3. Yahoo group "ccc" references my Email address "me4ccc@...".
  4. The owner of "aaa" transfers it to GROUPS.IO, automatically creating an "me4aaa@..." account for me.?
  5. The owner of "bbb" transfers it to GROUPS.IO, automatically creating an "me4bbb@..." account for me.?
  6. Due to the actions of the group owners, I now have two separate GROUPS.IO accounts; each subscribed to one of the transferred Yahoo groups.
  7. I login as "me4aaa@...", and can see the "aaa" group; and can send messages to it from "me4aaa@...".
  8. I login as "me4bbb@...", and can see the "bbb" group; and can send messages to it from "me4bbb@...".
  9. I would like to be able to post messages to "aaa" (for example) from ANY of my three email addresses.?
  10. So, I login as "me4aaa@...",...
  11. If I try to create an alias to "me4ccc@...", it works just fine; allowing me to post messages to "aaa" from either?"me4aaa@..." or "me4ccc@...".
  12. If I try to create an alias to "me4bbb@...", I get an ERROR message (i.e., "That email address is already registered").

    QUESTION #1:? Why won't it let me define an alias to the "me4bbb@..." email address (in my "me4aaa@..." account)?? Since I thought that the purpose of aliases was to allow other inbound Email address to be recognized by the group; I don't see why (already registered) email addresses are blocked.? Is this to protect GROUPS.IO from some sort of a security vulnerability that I am unaware of?? ?PLEASE EXPLAIN???

  13. I guess that I might be able to re-login as "me4bbb@...", and re-JOIN the "[email protected]" group from that account; but that seems like a lot of work and wasteful, because (in the limiting case), I would need to have multiple memberships in nearly all of the groups I belong to.

    QUESTION #2:? Is there a better (e.g., more-direct and/or non-wasteful,...) way to allow me to send emails from ANY of my email addresses, and have them be recognized by either of my subscribed GROUPS.IO groups?

    QUESTION #3:? What happens when the owner of a Yahoo group (I belong to) referencing "me4ccc@..." transfers it to GROUPS.IO?

Respectfully,

... a new user


 

Vern,

QUESTION #1: Why won't it let me define an alias to the
"me4bbb@..." email address (in my "me4aaa@..." account)?
Sounds like a good question to me. I guess because me4aaa and me4bbb could in principle both be subscribed to the same group, and then there would be an ambiguity as to which subscription's Posting Privileges to apply. That could be resolved by giving precedence always to the direct subscription over any aliases.

Which question brings up the related one: are you allowed to make an alias to me4ccc in me4bbb. And if so, what then happens to messages sent via me4ccc if both me4aaa and me4bbb have a subscription to that group?

13. I guess that I might be able to re-login as "me4bbb@...", and
re-JOIN the*"[email protected]
If while logged into me4bbb you unsubscribe from [email protected] then I think you may be allowed to use me4bbb as an alias. That's kind of reading between the lines and squinting here:


However:

QUESTION #2: Is there a better ... way to allow me to send emails
from *ANY* of my email addresses, and have them be recognized by
either of my subscribed GROUPS.IO groups?
Not that I know of. Any two, yes, via Alias, but not a larger number (I don't think you can have more than one Alias per account). The alias feature really wasn't intended for your use case.

Mark has stated an intention to "do something better" for managing multiple email addresses, but just what that that might be, or when it might happen I can't guess.

For now, it is far simpler to run all of your active subscriptions from a single email address.

QUESTION #3: What happens when the owner of a Yahoo group (I
belong to) referencing "me4ccc@..." transfers it to GROUPS.IO?
I think the transfer itself works fine. I don't think that the fact that me4ccc is used as an alias for other accounts will bollix anything.

However, it once again leaves you in the situation of having one group under a different login account than the others. And given that there is currently no means to merge two accounts, nor to move subscriptions from one account to another, you can only resolve it by re-subscribing to the group under the preferred address.

Which abandons your content in that group under the me4ccc account. Not good. One way to forestall that would be to consolidate your Y!Group memberships to a single email address while you still can (and before any more of your groups transfer).

I was kind of hoping that subscription moving and/or account merging would get implemented before a major influx of Yahoo Groups - precisely for this reason. Oh well.

Shal


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I believe that, in this respect, GIO is intended to mimic the old listserv mailing lists. Unlike Y!G, in GIO your email address IS your user ID.

There are advantages to this, the main one being the ability to participate in groups without having to set up a separate GIO "account." While some may experience a few disadvantages, on the whole I prefer the GIO way.

Bruce