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Re: switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 

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Frances, will our group members get ?email messages from ?inviting them to sign up for our group on ? If they will, we need to hurry up and post our own message to our members.

I have not had a chance to find out what we should tell our members about what they have to do (if anything) to join our group on , how to get to the message board and how to post to the group via email. Can you tell me or point me to explanations for these questions? ?

Our group is always on moderation for all members except owners and mods. It can be seen in the directory but approval is required to become a member. To find out if they are eligible a short message goes out when they click the join button. It says ¡°tell us why you want to join.¡± Then they send back a sentence or two of explanation.


Susan B



On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

Susan, you have your group, and you changed it to Premium. And you went to YahooGroups and invited the transfer email address.

You might look at this page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Hope it won't take too long for your transfer!

Frances
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Re: A few questions about the yahoo change

 
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Looks like the questions should be addressed to someone who knows the plans of Yahoo.
One quick solution to keep the continuity of the group's activities, would be to setup a GIO premium account and transfer member email addresses manually. This can be done very quickly. Once the membership email addresses are moved, members can continue to post messages and respond to them. This is what I have done for yahoo group.
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:25 PM Niman H <nimanh2000@...> wrote:

A few things my fellow mods and I have been wondering about, I haven't seen anyone specifically address them, perhaps someone knows?
1) Will digests stop after October 28? Or after December 13?
2) If someone is still on digest after they stop, will they just get no emails?
3) Is there any easy way to switch 800+ accounts???
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4) Will online editing of posts continue after Oct 28/Dec 13? (which?) And if not, it seems like there would be no way to edit posts?
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5) Looks like the member list will still be on the site, and editable - correct??
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6) "No attachments" - will attachments to emails be allowed through the system as a post?
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Thanks?
Sally

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Re: switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 

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Yes, that is correct - exactly what I did. We¡¯re working on our welcome message. For now, I de-activated it until we can decide exactly what to say. We plan to post our own message to our Yahoo group informing members of the coming change, so they won¡¯t be surprised.




On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

Susan, you have your group, and you changed it to Premium. And you went to YahooGroups and invited the transfer email address.

You might look at this page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Hope it won't take too long for your transfer!

Frances
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Re: A few questions about the yahoo change

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:25 PM, Niman H wrote:
A few things my fellow mods and I have been wondering about, I haven't seen anyone specifically address them, perhaps someone knows?
1) Will digests stop after October 28? Or after December 13?
2) If someone is still on digest after they stop, will they just get no emails?
3) Is there any easy way to switch 800+ accounts???
4) Will online editing of posts continue after Oct 28/Dec 13? (which?) And if not, it seems like there would be no way to edit posts?
5) Looks like the member list will still be on the site, and editable - correct??
6) "No attachments" - will attachments to emails be allowed through the system as a post?
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Thanks?
Sally

Sally, your questions are about what will happen on YahooGroups. I don't have the answers but likely someone else will.

If you are interested in finding out about moving your group to Groups.io, you might find this useful:?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups

Cheers,
Frances


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Re: switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 

Susan, you have your Groups.io group, and you changed it to Premium. And you went to YahooGroups and invited the Groups.io transfer email address.

You might look at this page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Hope it won't take too long for your transfer!

Frances
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Re: switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 

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Bruce, never mind - I think I found what you were talking about. You have to click the button at the bottom of the page you linked to. The button says Yahoo Group Instructions and when the new page shows up, look down in the right hand corner here.?/yahootransfer??When I look there I see a blank box with the words ¡°You have no transfers in process or completed."

I did issue an invitation from our group to the transfer agent a little while ago.?

Susan B



On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:22 PM, <jessica@...> wrote:
want to transfer all content from yahoo to the new platform.my invite was accepter by i have not received any email directing me to make the [email protected]?member a moderator.?
Please advise.? I would like to transfer everyone over.?
Jessica -- Are you sure your invitation was accepted? Or just sent? Waiting for the invitation to be accepted is the longest step of the process.

You can check status as follows:

Return to the Yahoo groups transfer page (/static/transfer) and select the transfer you've initiated from the pull-down menu at bottom right. There should be a status banner at the top of the resulting page. Based on what you've told us, it should say something to the effect of "we have received your invitation and will accept it soon, there is no need to send another invite."

If you see that, you're fine. If it says something else, come back here and tell us what it says.

I know you're anxious to get this done, but be patient. There are probably 100 groups ahead of you in the queue...with 100 owners, all feeling the same way you do. You will receive the anticipated email soon.?

Regards,
Bruce


A few questions about the yahoo change

 

A few things my fellow mods and I have been wondering about, I haven't seen anyone specifically address them, perhaps someone knows?
1) Will digests stop after October 28? Or after December 13?
2) If someone is still on digest after they stop, will they just get no emails?
3) Is there any easy way to switch 800+ accounts???

4) Will online editing of posts continue after Oct 28/Dec 13? (which?) And if not, it seems like there would be no way to edit posts?

5) Looks like the member list will still be on the site, and editable - correct??

6) "No attachments" - will attachments to emails be allowed through the system as a post?

Thanks?
Sally


Re: switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 

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Bruce the page you linked to only talks about ¡°Easy Groups Transfer.¡± Is there another page and link to find out this status?

Susan B



On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:22 PM, <jessica@...> wrote:
want to transfer all content from yahoo to the new platform.my invite was accepter by i have not received any email directing me to make the [email protected]?member a moderator.?
Please advise.? I would like to transfer everyone over.?
Jessica -- Are you sure your invitation was accepted? Or just sent? Waiting for the invitation to be accepted is the longest step of the process.

You can check status as follows:

Return to the Yahoo groups transfer page (/static/transfer) and select the transfer you've initiated from the pull-down menu at bottom right. There should be a status banner at the top of the resulting page. Based on what you've told us, it should say something to the effect of "we have received your invitation and will accept it soon, there is no need to send another invite."

If you see that, you're fine. If it says something else, come back here and tell us what it says.

I know you're anxious to get this done, but be patient. There are probably 100 groups ahead of you in the queue...with 100 owners, all feeling the same way you do. You will receive the anticipated email soon.?

Regards,
Bruce


Re: How to create a new member sign up questionnaire

 

On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Steven Silverstein <steve@...> wrote:

Sorry if this has been discussed. I did a few searches but was unable to find any info.
I would like to have the members of my Group complete a sign up questionnaire prior to being approved. Is there a way to do this?
Groups.io doesn't have that, hopefully someday it will.
This is what I do:


MAKE YOUR GROUP 'Restricted Membership' and use a "Pending Subscription Message"
Admin > Settings > Spam Control
Check the box next to "Restricted Membership"
I also recommend checking the box next to "New Users Moderated"
and use the "Unmoderate After" menu to select "1, 2, 3, or 4 approved messages"
Click on "Update Group" at bottom of page.
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Admin > Settings
Click on "Member Notices"
Click on "+New Notice"
Select "Pending Subscription" from "Notice Type" menu
I change the message "Subject"
from: Your pending membership in the [email protected] group
to: Additional Information Required
Make sure box next to "Active Message" is checked.
Compose your "Pending Subscription" message telling them what you want to approve their membership
I suggest you tell them why and who wants it.
Click "Add Notice"
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This "Pending Subscription Message" (sent to anyone who applies to join) and the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice that is sent to Owner/Moderator will both be sent at the same time, and a 14 day clock before the subscription application is automatically deleted will be started.

The "Pending Subscription Message" will not delay the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice, however an Owner/Moderator can put the 14 day clock on hold by 'Claiming' the application.
Click on "View Pending Member" in the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice email,
or go to the group's website Admin > Members
Select "Pending Members" (in the drop-down Members menu) if not already shown
Click on the row (not the check box) of the Pending Member
Click on "Claim Sub" at bottom of the page
The words "Claimed by <your name>" will appear in a blue box to the right of the applicant's email address
Now the 14 clock has been stopped and only you can approve this Subscription by email.
NOTE: All Owners and any Moderator (with appropriate privileges) can still approve this Subscription at anytime at the website.
This allows you to wait until you get a reply to the "Pending Subscription Message".

To resend the "Pending Subscription Message" (if you get no response):
Check the box at the left end of that Pending Member's row
Select "Resend Pending Membership Notice" in the drop-down "Actions" menu
Click "Yes" in the "Verify Action" dialog window.


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Re: switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:22 PM, <jessica@...> wrote:
want to transfer all content from yahoo to the new platform.my invite was accepter by i have not received any email directing me to make the [email protected]?member a moderator.?
Please advise.? I would like to transfer everyone over.?
Jessica -- Are you sure your invitation was accepted? Or just sent? Waiting for the invitation to be accepted is the longest step of the process.

You can check status as follows:

Return to the Yahoo groups transfer page (/yahootransfer) and select the transfer you've initiated from the pull-down menu at bottom right. There should be a status banner at the top of the resulting page. Based on what you've told us, it should say something to the effect of "we have received your invitation and will accept it soon, there is no need to send another invite."

If you see that, you're fine. If it says something else, come back here and tell us what it says.

I know you're anxious to get this done, but be patient. There are probably 100 groups ahead of you in the queue...with 100 owners, all feeling the same way you do. You will receive the anticipated email soon.?

Regards,
Bruce


switch from yahoo groups to groups.io

 

i have set up the new group. i want to transfer all content from yahoo to the new platform.my invite was accepter by i have not received any email directing me to make the [email protected]?member a moderator.?
Please advise.? I would like to transfer everyone over.??
thanks in advance
Jessica


Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

Pablo Sanchez
 

Argh ... Must.? Learn.? To.? Read.? Slowly!

I see the OP wanted the entire message in the body.? Ugh.? Nothing like looking like a fool in public!? Not the first.? Not the last.? ;)

Cheers,
-pablo


Re: Trying to add [email protected] membership for a migration yahoo to groups.io...

 

On 10/19/2019 9:32 PM, rich hurd wrote:
I invited the transfer email address to my Y!G group yesterday and got the user back that day.? Had to get the list owner to make it a moderator but otherwise it was smooth.? Not sure what is happening but my money¡¯s on an overload of groups migrating.
Mark just posted this on the beta list:

"On Wednesday, we had 20x the number of groups created that we do on a normal day. And each day after that has been even more. Our web traffic is about double normal."

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Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

Glenn Glazer
 

On 10/19/2019 18:00, Shal Farley wrote:
So for that reason, plus the fact that including it would make the link rather huge (in many cases
Oh, ugh, right. It would literally double the size of the message.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

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Hi,

This is with TBird 68.1.1/64-bit (Tumbleweed).

The composition window is properly populated.? I do get a blank, Loading ... tab.? Probably a bug.? I'll investigate it later and if need be, file a bug.

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Re: Trying to add [email protected] membership for a migration yahoo to groups.io...

 

I invited the transfer email address to my Y!G group yesterday and got the user back that day.? Had to get the list owner to make it a moderator but otherwise it was smooth.? Not sure what is happening but my money¡¯s on an overload of groups migrating.?


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 21:29 Alex <acensor@...> wrote:

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It's been two years since I migrated a group from yahoo to .

Last time (per my old notes from Mark) the procedure starts with inviting [email protected]?to membership.
Then when [email protected]?responds to the invite, make it a moderator.

I have sent two invites in the last approximately 2 days, but [email protected]?has not joined the group yet.

Am I missing something? Has the procedure changed? Do I just need to wait a while?
I sent an email inquiring why no action on end yet, ?but so far all I got back was
"Your request (9894) has been received and is being reviewed by our support staff.

To add additional comments, reply to this email."

Do I maybe have to FIRST set up a group to transfer into on the end?



Alex
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Re: Trying to add [email protected] membership for a migration yahoo to groups.io...

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 08:47 PM, Alex wrote:
Do I maybe have to FIRST set up a group to transfer into on the groups.io end?
Alex -- That's correct.?

The steps must be done in order. The transfer agent is not going to accept an invitation from a Yahoo group that hasn't first requested a transfer.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

 

Glenn,

Importantly, it has to work with every Mail User Agent (MUA) that
displays it, not just Thunderbird.
Bingo. That's the core of the issue.

In testing Mark discovered that many email interfaces would not use a body="text to put in the message body" parameter to the mailto: link. So for that reason, plus the fact that including it would make the link rather huge (in many cases), Mark decided not to include it.

Shal


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Re: Problem replying in Thunderbird using message footer link #reply-to-group

Glenn Glazer
 

On 10/19/2019 17:05, West Coast Compa?eros Staff wrote:

Pablo,

I tried starting Thunderbird in Safe Mode, with all Add-ons disabled, but the behavior of the Reply links is unchanged. This tells me that Add-ons are not the cause of the problem. Thanks for letting me know that upgrading to TB 68.x does not solve the problem either. I'm in no hurry to move to that version in the midst of all the other chaos of transferring nine Yahoo! Groups to Groups.io.

Robert R.
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Like Duane, I don't understand why one would think that the link would work with trimming and like Duane, I suggest in in Thunderbird (which I also use, version 60.9.0) that you do the mark and reply trick, as I have done here.

The Reply-to-Group link looks like this for this thread:
a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject===3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5BGMF%5D%20Problem%20replying%20in%20Thunderbird%20using=%20message%20footer%20link%20%23reply-to-group">Reply To Group</a>
That's an HTML encoded mailto link, no different really from a mailto link one might find on a contact page on some website.

Importantly, it has to work with every Mail User Agent (MUA) that displays it, not just Thunderbird. Snipped responses are not, if I recall correctly, part of the IETF standard for MUAs, so that isn't how the mailto link behaves. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Gmail web UI doesn't support that.

In short, it doesn't work because it's not supposed to work that way.

Best,

Glenn


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