Hi Frances,

I thought it was odd too.? ?
Here is what activity says: Non-member......(email address of person) attempted to send message "Parents Post" via email.?

It says attempted but it actually went through to all members and now I am getting some emails from my members.

On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 08:33 PM, Monica Jones-Borges wrote:

All my members received a nasty email from an outsider by simply writing to [email protected]?? How is this possible?? And is it possible to block that email address sending emails to all my members?

It seems odd! Are you sure their email address isn't in your members' list in Admin? Did you look at Activity in Admin as well? ?

Here's the help on banning addresses -?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-members/banning-and-unbanning-members?single=true

You do it from the members' list in Admin. Tick the name and click on Actions. ?Choose ban. This works nicely when you are banning a member.

Can someone else tell Monica how to do it if the person isn't a member?

Frances
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Hi Folks,

All my members received a nasty email from an outsider by simply writing to [email protected]?? How is this possible?? And is it possible to block that email address sending emails to all my members?

Thank you,
Monica

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 09:24 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:

As far as I am concerned if there ever was such a feature it would have to be
able to be turned off completely [ snip ]

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I fully agree, Nivard, and furthermore that should be able to be accomplished remotely, too!

Paul M.
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Hear hear!!!

As far as I am concerned if there ever was such a feature it would have to be able to be turned off completely, I cannot conceive a use or need for such a thing personally

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hello everyone

Strangely enough, following the recent announcements on OpenAI DevDay, see for example this summary video:

mean pretty much that building an API for a website or forum is going to become much easier than I stated only a week or so ago.
You would still have to clean up all the posts, eliminating old stuff and wrong answers, categorizing questions for different versions of a product or service, as the information on each forum would form the database for the AI chatbot, but if Groups.io could incorporate this feature, then questions could be answered by AI.
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That would mean instant answers but does not rule out that the asker can still post their question.
Whether some groups would want this though is still open to debate bearing in mind that answers are provided free of charge by the community and the social spirit of forums, at least some where there is more consensus that hostility.

Dave Neve

Hi all,

Re trying to use artificial intelligence, to mess about with posts that experienced members have written.......

My not so humble opinion, is -- don't!!!!? Utterly utterly don't!

I've moderated a number of groups where you have very experienced people, posting about whatever the topic/subject is, sometimes it's some uncommon medical condition, sometimes it's cat rescue, sometimes it's renaissance music, etc.?

And I have acquaintances from bygone tech college days, who have reported on their AI interactions --

AI makes things up.? And it can then be hard to differentiate, is that something true from an experienced entity?? or does that just sound good, is it just made up?

I think it will be a while before we get access to AI that isn't making things up.

A group with a lot of experienced people in it, is a resource and a treasure!? Good to NOT mess with that!? Gesine?

?I got it set as the Icon on my phone. That'll do for now.
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? The Cover photo I know how to do. The Icon might be what I'm looking for.
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On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 03:44 PM, Zapple100 wrote:

a place to put up a picture for a Group Logo picture that will always stay up. A small picture that will always be up on the Home Page.
? Is that possible to do?

You are referring to the Cover Photo and you can update that via Admin > Settings > Cover Photo (button). You can also load an icon for use with the mobile view and Groups.io app. It's described in the Owner's Manual.

Regards
Andy

?Every week we put up a different Home Page picture. I've been checking around the links in the group for a place to put up a picture for a Group Logo picture that will always stay up. A small picture that will always be up on the Home Page.
? Is that possible to do?
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 02:16 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 01:31 PM, C. Lensky, Division 1 Director wrote:

Kind of stymmies people from voting if they know that admins and owners can all see how they voted.

Well, no one is forcing you to tell them.? :)

Seems like it would not be a difficult thing to implement just toss the 'who' part of the responds to a trash bin folder.

At a minimum, voter information would still have to be retained internally, so as to keep people from voting more than once.?

Anonymity aside, there are plenty of other reasons to be disenchanted with the groups.io polling system. To me, the main one is that people must log in to vote. Many subscribers struggle with this, or at least don't try very hard to figure it out. Instead, they often reply via email...which eliminates any chance of keeping their votes secret anyway.

Even when explicit instructions are provided and you put a hashtag on the poll topic so people can't reply, forcing subscribers to jump through any kind of technical hoop is bound to skew the results.
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Regards,
Bruce

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?On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 02:16 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 01:31 PM, C. Lensky, Division 1 Director wrote:

Kind of stymmies people from voting if they know that admins and owners can all see how they voted.

Well, no one is forcing you to tell them.? :)

Seems like it would not be a difficult thing to implement just toss the 'who' part of the responds to a trash bin folder.

At a minimum, voter information would still have to be retained internally, so as to keep people from voting more than once.?

Anonymity aside, there are plenty of other reasons to be disenchanted with the groups.io polling system. To me, the main one is that people must log in to vote. Many subscribers struggle with this, or at least don't try very hard to figure it out. Instead, they often reply via email...which eliminates any chance of keeping their votes secret anyway.

Even when explicit instructions are provided and you put a hashtag on the poll topic so people can't reply, forcing subscribers to jump through any kind of technical hoop is bound to skew the results.
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Regards,
Bruce

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Thank you Bruce,?

?I would have been happy to never say anything however I was asked directly (since the upcoming vote next month will be very contoversial) if it is possible and felt I should answer honestly :/ Then I wanted to check here just in case I had overlooked or did not understand something myself. The general membership has not asked and probably would not care but we do have a specific executive group running the main group and that is where the question came up.

Our group has no problems with logging in to vote etc. Although it does take time to hand help sometimes when new members are added to the group so those new members understand how to navigate the groups.io in general. That only takes some time and patience on the part of the volunteers, but it is possible and is done whenever needed.

We?do set up a separate hashtag in the groups.io when votes come up for everyone which I think makes it easier for the general membership.

It just seems that a dedicated group site should have the ability for members in the group vote to be anonymous as a basic feature.

Thank you again.
Celestia

On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 04:30 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:

If AOL spam filtering was giving me that mush hassle, I'd change mail provider.

...or maybe just set up a second one that you use exclusively for groups.io.

"Voting with your feet" seems like a glib response, but the old providers like AOL, Yahoo and Earthlink are giving many people many reasons to dislike them. Receiving desired email is the whole reason you signed up; if they refuse to deliver it, then they simply aren't holding up their end of the bargain.

I changed my email address last year, mainly because we physically moved outside of my previous provider's service area. After 30 years of using TDS, I had a lot of people to notify...not to mention a lot of online accounts that relied on that old address for verification. A handful of sites had no provision to deal with the change at all, and my only recourse was to start over and establish a new account altogether. I'm enjoying the benefits now, but the transition was definitely a hassle.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 04:05 AM, KWKloeber wrote:

AOL filters the spam mail and gio is not “blocked” in my settings. ?AOL nortoriously sends stuff to my junk folder even if the address is not on the list to block.?

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The only way I have circumvented this is to put spammed e-dresses in my AOL contact list!

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If AOL spam filtering was giving me that mush hassle, I'd change mail provider. There are plenty to choose from.

Regards
Andy

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 05:09 PM, SafeTex wrote:

I've suggested that he subscribes a second time with this address so that GroupsIO will recognise his messages whatever the email address used to send his messages.

Actually, he can set up the second address as an alias in his account and the messages will be attributed to his primary address.? It's used, as in cases like this, where someone replies from a different address than they signed up with.? Normally group messages aren't sent to those, but he apparently has them forwarded.

Duane
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Here's another "why". One of my groups is part of a worldwide fellowship. The email list consists of members of a local group. We do want communication from our metropolitan office, our state officers, and our world service office. We have no need to answer those messages. They are simply informative.
Cacky

Hello everyone

This question proved to be more difficult than I expected as the person was actually a member after all.

After I contacted him, he replied

"When I click, as I did, on "Reply to group" I expect that I am sending from exactly the address to which the digest or invitation etc. reached me. - But I replied, as I am doing now, from android phone - and that may make a difference."

[end of quote]

And his second reply also arrived from a different address to the one I could see at the bottom of his email, where is says "unsubscribe" followed by an email address (the one registered with us)

To resume, each time he gets a daily summary or notification or whatever, and clicks on "reply", his android phone seems to reply using a different sender's address to the address that received the daily summary.

I've suggested that he subscribes a second time with this address so that GroupsIO will recognise his messages whatever the email address used to send his messages.

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