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Limits on Photo size but not photo type!

 

All,
I set the size limit in e-mails to a smaller 488x488 maximum,
while images in Photos are limited to a larger 1024 x 1024.

However I don't see a means of limiting photo type.
A Jpeg 488 x 488 image is much smaller than a 488x488 Bitmap.

Is there any way to restrict wasteful image types like Bitmap?
Other than encouraging use of Jpegs?

KEN

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in
men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling
are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest,
sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are
the traits of success." STEINBECK - CANNERY ROW


Re: Great transition

 

Marv,

10% are bouncing. That is more troubling.
Not necessarily. Y!Groups bounce tracking has had problems for several years, and these may be addresses which should have been listed as Bouncing at Y!Groups, but for one reason or another weren't.

I posted on the Y! group that members should be receiving posts from
groups.io and to adjust their anti-spam if they are not.
And particularly if their email service uses a "challenge" type of anti-spam they may need to explicitly white-list groups.io.

Shal


Re: Identifying inactive members

 

Marv,

I suppose I am asking if groups.io can track reads on posts.
I think it has been suggested, but no.

And of course, any attempt to track whether email messages are opened would be problematic.

Shal


Database Search

 

I have many databases in our group, and I'v noticed something peculiar when I do a search on one of them. Six dbases have some information found in all of them, and when I do a search for a particular item in one dbase, the results of the search will also display that particular information in the other dbases, along with what I'm looking for. It's like these dbases are connected, so a search in one is a search in all of them. This does not seem like a normal operation to me. Is it?

Don


Re: Are Adult groups allowed on groups.io

 

Johnny,

Hi, I wanted to transfer my adults only yahoo group to groups.io, but
I cannot find any info that adult groups are allowed on here.
It depends on the group's content:
/static/adult
(That link is in the TOS)

... if so how do I make my group available to adults only.
As Duane said, there is no mechanism to do that.

If you decide that your group fits within the content guidelines you might want to make the group's content members-only and restrict membership to people you approve.

Shal


Re: What action is required by members after the transfer?

 

Jim,

That time limit is nevertheless ridiculously short, and I fail to
understand the reason for it.
You can blame J for that.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/3574
(Just teasing!)

If I follow a link within one of those messages, as in the case
described, I would not see the response for about 24 hours (and could
be several days if I happened to be away from home the following
days).
It takes more than following the link in the email.

One then must click on the button that says "Email me a link to login". After you click that button the web site puts up a green banner that says "An email has been sent to you with a link to log into your account". If you click that button and then don't bother to check your email within several minutes I'd say that's on you.

Besides, apart from wasting some of your time the consequence is harmless. Learn from your mistake and click the button at a time when you are prepared to check your email.

Shal


Re: 0 files were transferred

 

"If the files are particularly valuable to the group you might reply to the message, or forward it to support, and ask if another attempt might be made to retrieve them once Y!Groups stabilizes."

Or you could do what I did, and download the files to your computer from Y, then upload them to your group Files on G. It's tedious work, but I got the job done.

Don


Re: 0 files were transferred

 

Pamela,

My question is why did it not transfer any of the files over?
Probably the copying software couldn't access any of the group's files.

That could be a result of the current rash of outages in Y!Groups - Files in particular is often mentioned as missing. Recently I couldn't access the Files section of Y!GMF, but today I can.

I've also read in Y!GMF that the transfer agent seems to have trouble retrieving files that are inside folders (rather than being on the main Files page itself).

If the files are particularly valuable to the group you might reply to the message, or forward it to support, and ask if another attempt might be made to retrieve them once Y!Groups stabilizes.

Shal


Re: Identifying inactive members

 

Bob,

> Where soft bounces have a Blue B and hard bouncers have a Red B.

Groups.io's blue B ("bouncing") and red B ("bounced") status don't
really correspond to the traditional email "soft" and "hard" bounce
categories.

That is, even a hard bounce starts an address with blue status, and
persistent soft bounces will eventually progress the address to red status.

> Since hard bouncers are not recoverable, you can just delete them.

Substitute "red B" for "hard" and this is essentially correct.

Blue B status means that Groups.io has suspended group message delivery
to that address, but is periodically sending a "probe" notification in
hopes of having the member respond. If the member responds to a probe
then group message delivery is resumed.

Red B status means that Groups.io has given up sending "probe" notices
to the address.

> It seems to me the best way to process all of those No Email people is
> to download your membership into an Excel file and sort it.

You can sort the Members list by Delivery (click on the column header),
and then if you don't have too many of them put a checkmark next to each
No Email person, and use the Actions menu at the bottom to send a
message to that batch of members. I think you have to repeat this a page
at a time.

This has the advantage that your message (by default) comes from the
Group+owner email address, and there is a convenient checkbox to Bcc the
message to all the moderators. There is also a Notices selector which
lets you fill in the message subject and body with a canned message
(from the Member Notices tab of your group's Settings page).

Shal


Re: Identifying inactive members

 

The least useful members are those who have hard bounced.? Messages to them are receiving status like "no such account", etc.
You can find them in the section of Members labeled Bouncing members.? Where soft bounces have a Blue B and hard bouncers have a Red B.
Since hard bouncers are not recoverable, you can just delete them.? They only inflate your numbers.

It seems to me the best way to process all of those No Email people is to download your membership into an Excel file and sort it.
Then you could send a general message to all of them by either a MS Word Mailmerge to email or converting the email column in the Excel file of those who set "no? email" (via MS word) to a delimited string compatible with your email client and sending them all a message
--
Bob Bellizzi

The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


0 files were transferred

 

I received an email stating the following:

Your group has been transferred

Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 12:40:55? (Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:40:55 -0500)

My question is why did it not transfer any of the files over?

0 files were transferred

Thank you for the help


Re: Identifying inactive members

Mike Conder
 

I'm doing it by checking those with "No Email" preference, then sending them a note asking if they're readin inline or just no longer interested or whatever.? I'm only doing that as part of a Yahoo to IO transfer, though, as I don't see it as a big deal worth any effort to fix.

Mike Conder

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Marv Waschke <marv@...> wrote:

How do you identify inactive members? Our group has a handful of virtuoso commenters, a much larger number of occasional commenters, and an even larger number of folks who subscribe to read the comments but seldom or never comment themselves. I know about the lurkers because I was one for years when I was too busy to say much. Is there an effective way to identify the inactive members that differentiates them from readers who do not comment? I suppose I am asking if can track reads on posts.

Best, Marv



Re: No login link

 

I am assuming that your member put in the email address she used for registration.?

Frances


Identifying inactive members

 

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How do you identify inactive members? Our group has a handful of virtuoso commenters, a much larger number of occasional commenters, and an even larger number of folks who subscribe to read the comments but seldom or never comment themselves. I know about the lurkers because I was one for years when I was too busy to say much. Is there an effective way to identify the inactive members that differentiates them from readers who do not comment? I suppose I am asking if groups.io can track reads on posts.

Best, Marv


Re: Transition completed this morning

 

A casualty of the transfer is that my e-mail label was changed to Default; that has now been corrected.
In some respects that was harder than the transfer.

KEN

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in
men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling
are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest,
sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are
the traits of success." STEINBECK - CANNERY ROW

On 2018-01-23 13:22, Default wrote:
1600 members successfully transferred along with files and photos.
Before I got the message from Easy Transfer I was getting
unsubscription notices.
About 15 members unsubscribed as soon as they got the Welcome to the
new group message.
After two hours all has calmed down. Notifications were about two to one,
thanking me for the transfer versus leaving the group.
I shut down posting of new files and photos on the old YahooGroup list,
no new members, moderators have been furloughed. Hopefully that
will be my last Special Notice to that YahooGroup.
ken


Transition completed this morning

 

1600 members successfully transferred along with files and photos.
Before I got the message from Easy Transfer I was getting unsubscription notices.
About 15 members unsubscribed as soon as they got the Welcome to the new group message.

After two hours all has calmed down. Notifications were about two to one,
thanking me for the transfer versus leaving the group.
I shut down posting of new files and photos on the old YahooGroup list,
no new members, moderators have been furloughed. Hopefully that
will be my last Special Notice to that YahooGroup.

ken


Re: What action is required by members after the transfer?

 

That time limit is nevertheless ridiculously short, and I fail to understand
the reason for it. I generally download emails into my client once per day. If
I follow a link within one of those messages, as in the case described, I would
not see the response for about 24 hours (and could be several days if I
happened to be away from home the following days). I wouldn't have the problem
because my account is already set up, but I doubt if I'm the only person in the
world to work that way.

Jim Fisher

On 23 Jan 2018 at 11:29, Dave Sergeant wrote:

You are confusing a couple of things. Firstly you and your members need
to do absolutely nothing, after the transfer they receive an email
telling they have been transferred - there is a link to click in that
email if they do NOT want to be in the new group, there is no time
limit on that link.

I think what you are talking about is the first time they visit the
group they are asked to set up a password - they will then be emailed a
link to enable that and that link is valid from one hour only from the
time they click it. If they decide not to set up a password they will
still be members but won't be able to access the group via the web,
only email.

Dave


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Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)

 

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> Mac users who use Mail should delete the YahooGroups email
>?address from Previous Recipients from Window tab.?
> Then no autofilling of the old address.
>
> Frances
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As an owner/moderator who doesn't use a MAC I really appreciate this advice, Frances. I will pass it along to my groups, and hopefully avoid a few misdirected message intercepts.?Thank you!!
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Dano


No login link

Nancy in Renton
 

my member can¡¯t login. She has asked to be emailed the password. Nothing comes. She¡¯s checked spam, etc. with no success.

Nancy


Re: Great transition

 

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¡°We had 2% leave the group. I emailed a few people and, as I expected, they had lost interest and took the opportunity to leave.¡±

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People leaving is to be expected. I used to purge the membership list on our old group every few years, because many people leaving the group would not unsubscribe. After awhile the group was showing an unreasonable amount of membership, and I wanted the membership to reflect the real amount of members we had. I would Special Notice the group telling them if they want to stay in the group to email me, and those that did not after one month got deleted from the membership list. There were always a few stragglers that wanted back in, but that was easy to deal with. I think some groups that have unusually high membership numbers, don¡¯t actually reflect active members.

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Don