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Losmandy G11 -2 and NINA


 

Hi
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Are there any special requirements for doing a meridian flip with this mount using NINA. I have been reluctant to use meridian flip as earlier attempts failed miserably, although I think its really a necessary option to capture significant data when conditions permit.
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Kind regards


 

A great podcast?covering this very topic (amongst other things).

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Thanks and Best Regards
Neil


On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:07?AM Trevor via <t.warner=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
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Are there any special requirements for doing a meridian flip with this mount using NINA. I have been reluctant to use meridian flip as earlier attempts failed miserably, although I think its really a necessary option to capture significant data when conditions permit.
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Kind regards


 

Trevor,

I found the following Gemini settings work:
Eastern Limit:? 110
Western Limit 100
Western GoTo 10

I didn't watch the video that Neil Allison referenced but somewhere I read that Gemini will ignore any flip command unless the command occurs within the window established by the east/west limits.? Ergo, my settings.? This has worked well, with flip always occurring after the telescope crossing the meridian?and the current exposure completes.

Best Regards,

Paul



On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 8:06?PM Neil Allison via <nallison147=[email protected]> wrote:
A great podcast?covering this very topic (amongst other things).

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Thanks and Best Regards
Neil


On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:07?AM Trevor via <t.warner=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
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Are there any special requirements for doing a meridian flip with this mount using NINA. I have been reluctant to use meridian flip as earlier attempts failed miserably, although I think its really a necessary option to capture significant data when conditions permit.
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Kind regards


 

East and West limits depend on each individual set up.
Limits that work for one person might not work for somebody else.
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Thanks and Best Regards
Neil


On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:19?AM Paul Buckley via <paulbuckley14059=[email protected]> wrote:
Trevor,

I found the following Gemini settings work:
Eastern Limit:? 110
Western Limit 100
Western GoTo 10

I didn't watch the video that Neil Allison referenced but somewhere I read that Gemini will ignore any flip command unless the command occurs within the window established by the east/west limits.? Ergo, my settings.? This has worked well, with flip always occurring after the telescope crossing the meridian?and the current exposure completes.

Best Regards,

Paul



On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 8:06?PM Neil Allison via <nallison147=[email protected]> wrote:
A great podcast?covering this very topic (amongst other things).

--
Thanks and Best Regards
Neil


On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:07?AM Trevor via <t.warner=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
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Are there any special requirements for doing a meridian flip with this mount using NINA. I have been reluctant to use meridian flip as earlier attempts failed miserably, although I think its really a necessary option to capture significant data when conditions permit.
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Kind regards


 
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 03:24 PM, Neil Allison wrote:
East and West limits depend on each individual set up.
Limits that work for one person might not work for somebody else.
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Thanks and Best Regards
Neil

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:19?AM Paul Buckley via <paulbuckley14059=[email protected]> wrote:
Trevor,
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I found the following Gemini settings work:
Eastern Limit:? 110
Western Limit 100
Western GoTo 10
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I didn't watch the video that Neil Allison referenced but somewhere I read that Gemini will ignore any flip command unless the command occurs within the window established by the east/west limits.? Ergo, my settings.? This has worked well, with flip always occurring after the telescope crossing the meridian?and the current exposure completes.
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Best Regards,
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Paul
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On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 8:06?PM Neil Allison via <nallison147=[email protected]> wrote:
A great podcast?covering this very topic (amongst other things).
--
Thanks and Best Regards
Neil

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:07?AM Trevor via <t.warner=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi
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Are there any special requirements for doing a meridian flip with this mount using NINA. I have been reluctant to use meridian flip as earlier attempts failed miserably, although I think its really a necessary option to capture significant data when conditions permit.
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Kind regards

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100% correct!? Every mount and telescope / rig configuration is different and using other people's limits cannot work reliably.? It is very easy to set your individual mount limits using the Menu>Mount>Limits>Set Limit Here option? button.?
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The Losmandy Gemini 2? mounts are very flexible and they come in many different configurations, nearly as many as there are telescopes and imaging rigs. OK maybe not that many, even so everyone needs to set their own lits to ensure proper operation.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astrospheric - South Pasadena?


 

I forgot to mention that I am in the Southern Hemisphere :)


 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 07:24 PM, Trevor wrote:
I forgot to mention that I am in the Southern Hemisphere :)
That makes a difference :) What version of Gemini firmware are you running?


 

The previous version :)


 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 02:30 AM, Trevor wrote:
The previous version :)
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Could you be more specific and give an actual number? Gemini 1 or 2? And what level of firmware?


 

Sorry - G2-? Ascom gemini Telescope Driver 1.1.23.0
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 10:58 PM, Trevor wrote:
Sorry - G2-? Ascom gemini Telescope Driver 1.1.23.0
Thanks, but you're still missing one important piece of information -- the Gemini firmware level. Can you go to Menu->HC->Info screen on the Gemini hand controller and take a photo and post it here? Or just copy the information and post it here.?


 

HC firmware V1,10 2014 mainboard v5.21 2017


 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 05:13 PM, Trevor wrote:
HC firmware V1,10 2014 mainboard v5.21 2017
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Hi Trevor,
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This being 2024 and the current production release of the Gemini 2 firmware being L6.02 with PIC servo code v3.0 and HC 1.61 you should probably update as? soon as possible.? Many issues were resolved in the current release and there are later versions being developed to fine tune mostly cosmetic issues.? Click on this link to go to the right file location to download the current releases of the Gemini 2 firmware: Gemini 2 production firmware? Get updated then retest.? ?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astrospheric - South Pasadena?


 

Do I need all three files ??? and what is the process for updating, any particular order, thanks :)


 

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 05:02 PM, Trevor wrote:
Do I need all three files ??? and what is the process for updating, any particular order, thanks :)
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Hi Trevor,
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It's not just three files.? You need to download the latest GFU program which will automatically update to the new L6.0x firmware for the Gemini 2 main processor and Hand Controller files.? There is an inexpensive piece of hardware called a PIC Kit programmer that you will also need to update the PIC chip servo controller code.? These are the two (2) controller chips on the main board that have their own programming but cannot be accessed by the GFU program, they are accessed by a hardware interface and are normally programmed at the factory during assembly.? Well the big improvement that is L6 took a complete top to bottom look at how Gemini 2 does things and they committed to improving the Gemini 2 to a whole new level including the PIC chip code.? This is a large part of the L6 firmware upgrade secret sauce and how the new L6.0x firmware got the big 4x resolution boost.? Trust me as an imager you want the full update.? ? ?
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Go to Amazon and order this.? There are directions in the Gemin 2 users group that will explain step by step how to do ALL of this. It's easy, many people with no experience have done it no problem.? Let us know if you have any questions or need any other help.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astrospheric - South Pasadena?


 

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Some additional links for you.?
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Here is the ??
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Here are the files you need if you have an Ethernet connection to the Gemini 2 and know how to transfer them directly to the Gemini 2 mSD card Gemini L6.02 files?
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Here is how to use the , it's old but is still correct.?
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Here are some written How To directions on updating the servo PIC chips.? ?
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And here is the quick start guide from the L6 BETA, it is still good to read as nothing has really changed other than the versions of the files used.
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astrospheric - South Pasadena?


 

Thanks for all that but I don't actually feel comfortable with the prospect of doing all this for an upgrade when my current system works OK - as I asked are there any special requirements with my version of G2 setup for meridian flip - thanks


 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 08:13 PM, Trevor wrote:
HC firmware V1,10 2014 mainboard v5.21 2017
Hi Trevor, thanks, that's what I wanted to find out. Initial L6 release did have some issues with Southern hemisphere that were fixed in L6.02. Since you're on L5 still, these are not relevant at this point.
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There is another thread here that might help, even though it's? about Gemini-1 and L4. You're actually posting in the group mostly dedicated to Gemini-1 / L4. Gemini-II user group is where you can find more folks with the same version of Gemini that you're using, and possibly using NINA in the Southern hemisphere :) Maybe worth a search and asking your question in that group, also.
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Regards,
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