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On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 10:03 AM, Chip Louie wrote:

never to break a stuck fastener loose.??

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On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 08:17 AM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:

On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 07:03 AM, Chip Louie wrote:

I've heard of ball-end wrenches breaking but it has not happened to me yet.?

Nor I. I use and branded Allen wrench sets.

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Sonny Edmonds
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Hey we have the same tastes in tools.? I have multiple sets of.both and for small precision stuff Wiha, Wera and Eklind small handled wrenches.?

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On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 11:26 AM, WayBack wrote:

On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 10:03 AM, Chip Louie wrote:

never to break a stuck fastener loose.??

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The suggestion was to confirm the correct tool using a similar bolt head on the mount.? With that confirmed, to try a tapped 3/16 ball ended Key to perhaps clear the galled edges.? It certainly might require something else to clear the keyway and verify the correct key holds.

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As for that 3/16 ball tipped tool, when inserted ball end, we know this won't substitute for the correct tool orientation when used to tighten.? Even wearing gloves, I could not move bolt from the set state with the one-inch lever presented for use on the 3/16 key when reversed.? ?I mentioned the bolt sets with more torque than the reversed key provides, with or without a forged ball end.

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The suggestion to locate the correct hand tool within the shipped tool-bag is the best way to acquire the recommended tool.? Particularly when inquired about during the initial assembly.? Though the issue seems rare, yet it is good to give some thought to such details.

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We know the size so I would use a 3/16" Allen tipped socket with a 6" extension and 3/8" breaker bar.? Same rules apply, use a name brand straight tipped socket and trust me it will come out no problems.??

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On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 12:24 AM, Chip Louie wrote:

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Of course, other tools exist.? But adding a handle to an Allen Wrench makes this some other tool than an Allen Wrench.? A tool that can break the tool itself, like twist the tip off.? Or a tool than can reshape the fastener head.? The handles an Allen Wrenches change in size for a reason.

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On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 04:19 AM, WayBack wrote:

On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 12:24 AM, Chip Louie wrote:

breaker bar

Of course, other tools exist.? But adding a handle to an Allen Wrench makes this some other tool than an Allen Wrench.? A tool that can break the tool itself, like twist the tip off.? Or a tool than can reshape the fastener head.? The handles an Allen Wrenches change in size for a reason.

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This is not a big deal, a 1/4-20 stainless steel fastener is not a fragile fastener.? Sure it should probably only get depending on grade anyway, 10-14 ft/pounds but it appears over torqued or less likely cross threaded or even less likely corroded.??

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Being a socket headed cap screw it can take more torque than any other common fastener head so using a normally out of range tool seems appropriate here.? As far as I can tell the OP is at the point of using a heavier class of conventional weapon in tools or just going nuclear and breaking out the miniature screw extraction tools.? I hate drilling stainless steel and have every conventional option available I recommend trying conventional first.?

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I have to ask because I'm curious-did the bolt get removed?