There is a nuance that I wasn't aware of.? In prior versions on KStars, there was an option to "Use flip command if mount supports it".? I cannot find that in the current version, so now I am left guessing as to whether it will issue a flip or a Goto.? As a result, I need to make sure that the flip will work correctly regardless of the command issued.? Please clarify "For FW ?6.x and Flip Points enabled, and both, East and West flip points set to 1°, then a Goto to past 1° would result in a flip."? Does this mean that regardless of flip command or Goto past 1°, the flip will succeed??

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Thanks Again,

Anand

The “Use flip command if supported” is still there but it seems it has moved. ?Bring up the Options for the Capture tab and you will see it. ?Not clear why it was moved. ?I think they also lost the previous setting. ?I used to have this enabled, but when I when searching for it in 3.7.4 it was no longer set. ?I haven’t tried a meridian flip since this new release came out.

Bill

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 10:25 AM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:

1. Flip points are set relative to the meridian, not safety limit

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Could you confirm this, relative to which meridian?

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I still see the mount responding using Flip Point by using the uncorrected or Limit based meridian position.? Not the Meridian used by the scheduling software (that Meridian in the sky) once synchronization of the mount on the first star occurs and an RA Index value exists.? This then requires the insertion of a delay to use Flip Go-To modification not required using the WGL method.

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(I'm at 6.10 / 1.63 / 3.0 checking this.)

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Hi Doug,

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The meridian used in flip point definition is not using the pointing model to transform the position to true sky position. It's rather a position 90 degrees relative to CWD in RA. The same applies to safety limits. These are physical mount positions rather than points in the sky.

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Regards,

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On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 07:10 PM, WayBack wrote:

Hi Paul,

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This was my original understanding and just hoping.? Flip Points, once synchronized on a star, then remain a statistically fuzzy value in action.? Forcing a drift over (delay) of some number of minutes (dependent on the RA Index) after passing the Celestial Meridian or there exists a fair chance of the mount not flipping until the target drifts past the Mount’s Meridian.? ? At least this remains the case without setting the Flip position a small drift amount before the Mount's Meridian.? Yet when I do this the routine strips the sign on setting the value.? Or am I entering the value incorrectly?

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Thanks for getting back and I do appreciate your dedication.

Doug

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 04:34 PM, WayBack wrote:

Yet when I do this the routine strips the sign on setting the value.? Or am I entering the value incorrectly?

Meridian flip points are set up? past the meridian by the number of degrees that you specify. Negative numbers are not supported, AFAIK.

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Paul,

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Ok, thank you for checking on that too.? The two available methods then functionally operate the same, flipping Gemini-2 on the mount's leveled center and not the Celestial Meridian.? This and we cannot adjust the Flip Points except by adding delays into the external scheduling program.? I'll stick with the older method.? My preference would be to a method based off the Celestial Meridian (the adjusted digital circles), although I may be in the minority or perhaps that's just not possible for a GEM.

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Doug

On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 09:16 AM, WayBack wrote:

Paul,

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Ok, thank you for checking on that too.? The two available methods then functionally operate the same, flipping Gemini-2 on the mount's leveled center and not the Celestial Meridian.? This and we cannot adjust the Flip Points except by adding delays into the external scheduling program.? I'll stick with the older method.? My preference would be to a method based off the Celestial Meridian (the adjusted digital circles), although I may be in the minority or perhaps that's just not possible for a GEM.

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Doug

On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 11:17 AM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:

I'm really not sure what you were trying to do with flip points.