Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
I’d be pretty surprised if it wasn’t playing up without the lvl 3.+ dsPIC33 firmware. ?
if you flash GFU back to lvl 5 ensure you reset HGM Defaults and then all your settings
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
I’m sorry for so many posts.
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I’m using GFU, I have now tried twice, selecting to install Gemini 5, the 2nd time I selected to format the SD before the firmware install, and both times it installed ver 6 firmware instead.?
How do I downgrade my Gemini 2 back to ver 5 firmware?
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Many thanks,
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Bob
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 04:12 PM, <bobthorpe@...> wrote:
As I read more, I think my problem is that I have not purchased / installed the v 6 servo pic programmer, at this point I think I need to go back to v 5 firmware.
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Please let me know if you’ve got any other suggestions.
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Many thanks, Bob
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Hi Bob,
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You worked out most of it yourself before I could reply, good job, most folks just wimp out and say it doesn't work, hang in there!? So now that it is talking via Ethernet you can see all of the cool stuff and do things you could never do before.? But that's for you to play with and discover all the ways you can break the Gemini 2.? Just kidding but not really, just remember that if it all goes south just do that HGM default trick and you will be able to reset the important stuff now that you know how to set the network addresses.? Be sure to go in and set and NTP server IP address to get time updated accurately over the Internet.?
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As far as I have seen the L6.x Gemini 2 code works okay with the V1.0 PIC code but it has not been heavily tested this way and was intended to be used with the V3.0 PIC code.? That said if you are getting stall or heavy duty messages on the DEC axis this is because the DEC worms are often setup heavier than the RA axis and the new L6.x code is more sensitive to potential stalls and overloads.? If your have the Classic? Losmandy straight line drivetrain just give the worm a little more backlash and be happy.? If you have plenty of backlash already you have another issue, likely mechanical, dirty or contaminated grease etc. clean and relube.? If this is a newer mount with tucked in servos and spring loaded OPWs adjust the OPW lift screw when the DEC axis gets tight.?
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Anyway keep L6.01, it is well worth the effort for the better tracking and guiding if you are an imager!? Also order a PIC Kit programmer from Amazon, it is an easy and cheap thing and the 4X higher servo precision is a plus as is the higher reliability of the complete firmware L6.X update.? You really want to use the version 3.0 PIC code for best results.? In the mean time the V1.0 PIC code will be fine until you update to v3.0.? ??
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
As I read more, I think my problem is that I have not purchased / installed the v 6 servo pic programmer, at this point I think I need to go back to v 5 firmware.
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Please let me know if you’ve got any other suggestions.
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Many thanks, Bob
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
Thanks Brendan:
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Sorry, I’m new at this, unsure where to check the dsPIC33 firmware. If this is for the Servos, they are V 1.0.
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BTW, the error started right after going from 5.1 to the 6.0 update without moving the Dec or anything. The mount was in CWD, it doesn’t matter if I have my 10” LX200 and counterweight installed or not, or the position of the Dec, it’s beeping crazy.?
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Thanks, Bob
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
Bob what is your dsPIC33 firmware lvl?
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cheers
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Brendan
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
Hi Chip: I was able to manually reset my laptop IP to:
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IP: 192.168.0.100
Subnet: 24
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS: 192.168.0.1
The HC V1.60 and Mainboard 6.00 Firmware update worked.?
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However, I am now getting a rapid beeping, at the Home Screen it says “Dec: Heavy Duty Tr.”?
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Now what? ?
Many thanks, Bob
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
Hi Chip: I followed your instructions, still a no go. My Gemini 2 network is set to the defaults?
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IP Address: 192.168.0.111
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Primary DNS Server: 166.141.133.194
DHCP: off
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Doing an IPCONFIG on my laptop I get:
IPv4: 192.168.12.208
I tried using an Ethernet Switch between my laptop and the Gemini, after that I tried a single standard Ethernet cable between them, no go running the GFU for either.
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I installed ASCOM and the Gemini driver and I tried the Gemini Telescope software and it worked with my USB cable. ??
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BTW, is the 6.1 a solid firmware upgrade without doing the chipset upgrade?
Many thanks for your help, Bob
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Re: Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 06:44 AM, <bobthorpe@...> wrote:
Greetings: my older version Gemini 2 seems to be working okay, good internal 3v battery, version 5.1 firmware. I launched the firmware updater and it couldn’t connect on either Ethernet or USB from either a Windows laptop or desktop, however when I unplug the USB my computer beeps so it’s seeing a connection. I tried logging onto the default IP address and the Gemini address via a web browser, neither connection worked. Any suggestions? Many thanks, Bob at 7,000’ in dark sky Flagstaff, AZ
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Hi Bob,
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Using the Gemini-2 Hand Controller boot up and go to the Top/Main Diamond button menu. From the main Menu press > System > Reset HGM Defaults.? Wait for the Gemini-2 to reboot then do a power off, wait 10 seconds then power the Gemini-2 back up?.? Once the Gemini-2 is rebooted and waiting at the Main menu press the > Menu > System > Network > and uncheck DHCP then set a static IP address, Netmask appropriate for your LAN, then use your home router's IP address for the Gateway and Primary DNS Server addresses.? Press > Back a few times and then using a windows PC or something on the same network segment ping the IP address you assigned to the Gemini-2 and see if it is found.? Once found you should be GTG, and run the GFU app making sure to use the newest 6.1 release as well as make sure the HC firmware option is checked in the GFU.? When it is all done downloading complete zipped 6.1 file just let it run and when completed, this can take a while, the GFU will say it is done and to power off the Gemini-2 then power back up and wait for the HC to display that it is updating the HC, this can really take a while so be patient and wait until you get the main menu diamond pad menu.? ??
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Do you have the PIC Kit programmer and did you already install the PIC programmer app??
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If you need help determining the correct IP address, mask etc. get back to us here for direction.?
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Keep us posted.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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Can’t connect Ethernet or USB
Greetings: my older version Gemini 2 seems to be working okay, good internal 3v battery, version 5.1 firmware. I launched the firmware updater and it couldn’t connect on either Ethernet or USB from either a Windows laptop or desktop, however when I unplug the USB my computer beeps so it’s seeing a connection. I tried logging onto the default IP address and the Gemini address via a web browser, neither connection worked. Any suggestions? Many thanks, Bob at 7,000’ in dark sky Flagstaff, AZ
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It also helps to use an eyepiece that yields moderate power with an illuminated reticle/ cross hair during alignment.? Seriously, apparently many of not most people have no idea where the actual center of view is with modern 68-110 degree AFOV eyepieces.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 10:31 AM, <rkaufmann87@...> wrote:
You discovered the secret to creating a model, ?3 stars or more will create a good model, if you get good enough star visibility to do more than 3 this should improve accuracy however 3 should do it.?
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IME if you do three stars on one side of the meridian then move the mount to the other side and align on one more star you will get a better model.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
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Everything seem to work now, except that some of the menu items ?on the embedded web-server? (HandControl, MobileHandControl, Manual and Serial Command Set) return a 404 (not found) error. So probably some html files missing.
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Thanks again for your help! Greatly appreciated!
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Regards,
Per Erik
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
I don't know if this will help or not now but here goes.? Might help for the future.
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I just completed the update to L6.1.? Unfortunately, I can't use the GFU or the Flash Firmware command on the Webpage so I always have to reformat the SD card to update.? So what I do before reformatting is put the SD card in a reader, copy off all the folders, reinstall the SD card to Gemini, reformat the SD card via GFU, remove the SD card again and put into a reader, reload all those folders, rename "NewGem.bin" to "HGM_Gem2.bin" and load that file to the SD card.? Then I reinstall the SD card, power up and everything updates.? This also preserves any config and model files in those respective folders.?
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Attached is a screenshot of my Gemini files from L6.05.? Some of those folders have files in them so it is important to keep these files in order for Gemini to work correctly.??
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
Good! 8)
You probably don't need AltAz, but all the remaining. If you can't
use GFU, either use one of your previous cards and upload the few
new files put the SD card in your reader and copy the rest or do
this with an ftp client.
Regards,
搁别苍é
Am 12.11.24 um 21:11 schrieb
pererikjorde via groups.io:
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Thanks a lot, Rene and Paul,
the Gemini is up and running again!
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The handcontroller looks fine but the web page is a bit
rudimentary:? What other files are required/recommended for a
fully function system?
I see the following folders in the SD-combined610.zip zip
file: AltAz ?Catalogs ?DE ?EN ?ES ?FR ?HC ?HCFirmware ?MHC
Should they all be copied over to the Gemini SD card?
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Regards,
Per Erik
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
Thanks a lot, Rene and Paul,
the Gemini is up and running again!
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The handcontroller looks fine but the web page is a bit rudimentary:? What other files are required/recommended for a fully function system?
I see the following folders in the SD-combined610.zip zip file: AltAz ?Catalogs ?DE ?EN ?ES ?FR ?HC ?HCFirmware ?MHC
Should they all be copied over to the Gemini SD card?
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Regards,
Per Erik
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 01:24 PM, <pererikjorde@...> wrote:
I see I left out a possible important thing: When upgrading to 6.1 I first attempted uploading the NewGem.bin file with Gemini by way of FTP. Then I tried activating the new firmware through the web browser by chosing the Firmware/SRAM
meny option and selecting NewGem.bin from the drop-down meny, and then pressing Flash Firmware. After that I lost contact with Gemini and, after a while, decided to pull out the SD card and copy over the files manually, as described above. Now it won't start either with the new (version 6.1) or the old SD (version 5) card.
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Hi Erik, try doing what 搁别苍é suggested: copy the NewGem.bin file to the SD card using a card reader, and rename it to HGM_Gem2.bin, then put it back into Gemini and turn it ON. This should force a reflash of the firmware.
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You discovered the secret to creating a model, ?3 stars or more will create a good model, if you get good enough star visibility to do more than 3 this should improve accuracy however 3 should do it.?
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On Nov 12, 2024, at 9:37?AM, tony.kiefer@... wrote:
I finally had a clear night. When I had the problem there wasn't a lot of stars to align to because of trees so I was just using two stars going back and forth between the two. That was my problem. When I setup last night with better skies the third star corrected the model. I did try the Sync command after going to a star and then goto back to the same star and it did move off the star but still in the fov of the eyepiece. Problem is resolved.
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
Hi again,
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I see I left out a possible important thing: When upgrading to 6.1 I first attempted uploading the NewGem.bin file with Gemini by way of FTP. Then I tried activating the new firmware through the web browser by chosing the Firmware/SRAM
meny option and selecting NewGem.bin from the drop-down meny, and then pressing Flash Firmware. After that I lost contact with Gemini and, after a while, decided to pull out the SD card and copy over the files manually, as described above. Now it won't start either with the new (version 6.1) or the old SD (version 5) card.
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Per Erik
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Re: Gemini II dead after upgrade attemp
Hi Erik,
Please format a SD card and copy the Newgem.bin file onto it.
Rename it to HGM_Gem2.bin.
Put it into the Gemini board's socket. Power on and wait for about
30 seconds. Then plug the HC into the correct port ;) and check if
it connects or use Ethernet to access. W/o the SD card files on
the SD card a rudimentary web page has to be displayed.
搁别苍é
Am 12.11.24 um 19:03 schrieb
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Hi group!
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First posting here from a longtime lurker.
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I bought my G11 with Gemini II new 4 years ago and have been
using it sucessfully ever since.
This summer I also managed to upgrade to level 6: PIC
programming the servocontrollers and
wrote new SD cards with firmware for the Gemini and HC. It
worked fine, save some missing
catalogs etc on the hand controller.? I almost always run the
Gemini from a raspberry Pi4 with
astroberry so that did not matter much anyway.
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This was were things stood before last night when I attempted
ugrading to 6.1, again copying the
new firmware bin files to the two SD cards, using a
card-reader as I don't have a Windows PC for the
GFU utility. Now I cannot connect to the Gemini at all: the
handcontroller just cycles between
the opening screen - Initializeing HC... - Connecting to
Gemini... all over. The ethernet gives no
response either. Even switching back to the original SD card
on the Gemini (the one that came with
the unit and that I never modified) gives the same result:
for all practical purposes the Gemini appears
dead, save for the red light on the on/off switch.
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Any suggestion for how to go from here?
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Regards,
Per Erik
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Chip Louie
Paul Kanevsky