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Re: ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

Thanks, Paul...


On Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 6:39?p.m. Paul Kanevsky via <yh=[email protected]> wrote:
The ASCOM platform team published a quick fix to the compatibility issue reported earlier that affected Gemini.NET driver and ASCOM Chooser.
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Platform 7 update 1 is available for download from website and is safe to use.
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Regards,
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ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

The ASCOM platform team published a quick fix to the compatibility issue reported earlier that affected Gemini.NET driver and ASCOM Chooser.
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Platform 7 update 1 is available for download from website and is safe to use.
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Regards,
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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 
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I can second using GL.iNET routers, I have been using them on the mount for many years and have kept upgrading as they released newer faster versions.? The current model which I am using that makes the most sense to me is the compact Slate-AX AKA GL-AXT1800.? You can go faster on 5GHz. with a Beryl-AX but there is not a lot of advantage to it if you need to use the 2.5GHz. band for reliability.? As a person using ASIAIR which had about the worse Wi-Fi implementation imaginable I figured out how to add a wired travel router was key.? Initially everyone including ZWO said it did not work, but in fact it worked perfectly and fully resolved the Wi-Fi problems of the ASIAIR.? When the original Slate routers came out they had a built-in 3 port switch which eliminated the necessity of adding a small switch as I had been doing previously so now the Slate travel router solution also allowed access to the Gemin 2 over Ethernet without the extra piece of admittedly small piece of networking hardware which is how I have been using Gemini 2 for years.? The Slate travel routers have always had retained the 3 port switch feature as does the Slate-AX.? The Beryl-AX only has one LAN port but it can be reconfigured as a second LAN port if needed as would be the case for an ASIAIR user.??
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The other great feature not often talked about for regular Gemin 2 users is that these routers can be configured to act as bridge router from the Gemin 2 on the mount to the home LAN over Wi-Fi.? So you can have access in the basement or wherever from the house Wi-Fi LAN out to the Gemini 2 using the Slate-AX as a bridge router.? ?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

I also use the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800. I¡¯ve tried a few and that one has worked the best so far
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

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In any event ASCOM 7 SP1 is working fine now.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

Hi David,
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I use a GL.iNet GL-AXT1800 in 2.4ghz mode as a AP/Repeater. It is powered by USB C if you have access to that connection at your telescope - mine is connected to my NUC for power.
It also has two ethernet ports if you want to connect the Gemini-2 etc..
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Good luck,
Ken
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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

OK my terminology was wrong. I want to have a laptop at the telescope connected to a "box" that connects to my wifi network and has a couple of ethernet ports, one for the G-2 and one for the laptopn.

So, I need a recommendation for that "box" (and maybe a correct nomenclature ...).

D.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Huh? You literally said that you were looking for an access point ("... so I'm hoping I can find a good AP...") so I pointed you at one that is both weatherproof and is powered by PoE; two common features of outdoor access points. The one I pointed you at would be mounted on the outside of your home/building and optionally be equipped with external antennas; even directional ones. Your imaging PC would have its own wifi capability and the external AP would have a single ethernet cable that is ran internally inside your home to wherever your router/switch is located. Perhaps you didn't fully articulate your requirements or have something else in mind?


On Oct 21, 2024, at 13:32, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

That's the whole point - I already have a WAP and router, I just want a wireless connection from the telescope to the network - i.e. no ethernet cables except on the 'scope.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.




On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don¡¯t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ¡®scope, so I¡¯m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I¡¯m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

Huh? You literally said that you were looking for an access point ("... so I'm hoping I can find a good AP...") so I pointed you at one that is both weatherproof and is powered by PoE; two common features of outdoor access points. The one I pointed you at would be mounted on the outside of your home/building and optionally be equipped with external antennas; even directional ones. Your imaging PC would have its own wifi capability and the external AP would have a single ethernet cable that is ran internally inside your home to wherever your router/switch is located. Perhaps you didn't fully articulate your requirements or have something else in mind?

On Oct 21, 2024, at 13:32, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

That's the whole point - I already have a WAP and router, I just want a wireless connection from the telescope to the network - i.e. no ethernet cables except on the 'scope.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.




On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don¡¯t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ¡®scope, so I¡¯m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I¡¯m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

That's the whole point - I already have a WAP and router, I just want a wireless connection from the telescope to the network - i.e. no ethernet cables except on the 'scope.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.




On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don¡¯t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ¡®scope, so I¡¯m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I¡¯m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.

On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don¡¯t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ¡®scope, so I¡¯m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I¡¯m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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I don¡¯t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ¡®scope, so I¡¯m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network.? Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.

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Recommendations most welcome.

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PS I¡¯m in the UK if that makes a difference.

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Thanks

David

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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 09:03 PM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:
ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
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I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
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I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Sonny Edmonds
GM811G HD
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Then don't update as soon as they are released.??
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

The ASCOM release was available for several months in release candidate form to offer folks the opportunity to give it a try and report any issues prior to it being released under general availability. Some of the issues found after the GA release of ASCOM 7 arose out of highly specific driver and host software combinations; combinations that can be impossible for the ASCOM maintainers to fully test themselves, especially if the driver requires its associated equipment to be in hand. This is why participation from the community is key to ensuring everything is covered.

To ASCOM's credit, the post-GA issues that were found were promptly investigated and addressed.

On Oct 20, 2024, at 00:03, Sonny Edmonds <pedmondsjr@...> wrote:

ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Sonny Edmonds
GM811G HD
Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

Sonny,
I never thanked you for your reply.? Thank you.? I was thinking about the extension and re-read what you wrote.? I think I will get the 12" extension first unless you and the group think the ra extension makes more sense.? I am hoping to increase the mount limits for more imaging time near the meridian.
Again, thank you.
Tom
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 12:03 AM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:
I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
Unlike Windows updates, ASCOM updates are not forced on you. If you see something in the update that you might want or need, go ahead and try it. Otherwise, there's little need to upgrade. There's no requirement for you to update to Platform 7 to run the latest Gemini ASCOM driver -- it's compatible with nearly all previous platforms, including 6 and 5. And, unlike Windows updates, reported issues are fixed quickly. This time, in a matter of a couple of days.
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Regards,
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?-Paul
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

Update 1 has been released with some fixes including the Gemini selector issue
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Ken
Re: Help with Gemini 2

 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 11:43 AM, <stargazr39@...> wrote:
Paul?
I have been so involved with trying to get the Gemini working that I havent done anything else.?
As for connecting via ethernet, it looks complicated and I had the other issue to deal with.? Goal 1 is to get the Gemini working, then I'll worry about the other stuff.?
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Ron Abbott?
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When you are having issues with a Gemini 2 and the mount is not acting "right" establishing reliable communication, preferably via Ethernet should be job #1. I say this because problems and issues can only be observed through the Gemini's? behavior and the configuration settings are not as easily seen, some can only be seen through the web browser UI.? Get it connected to an Ethernet port on a laptop or PC so you can see how it is really configured and if need be updated and/or missing files added directly to the Gemini's file system.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
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I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
?
I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Sonny Edmonds
GM811G HD
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 07:46 PM, Oberon510 wrote:
Wow - I hope they address that particular issue but I have been running fine with 7 MR and the prior 2 beta versions and Gemini.
An update to Platform 7 is in the works. As I said, if you have already selected Gemini.NET as your telescope driver in all your apps, you will not have any problems with Platform 7. But if you need to select it from a 32-bit application using ASCOM chooser, this will fail.?
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Regards,
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Re: Help with Gemini 2

 

Forgive my curiosity, but did you ever get this resolved?
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