Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
The ASCOM release was available for several months in release candidate form to offer folks the opportunity to give it a try and report any issues prior to it being released under general availability. Some of the issues found after the GA release of ASCOM 7 arose out of highly specific driver and host software combinations; combinations that can be impossible for the ASCOM maintainers to fully test themselves, especially if the driver requires its associated equipment to be in hand. This is why participation from the community is key to ensuring everything is covered.
To ASCOM's credit, the post-GA issues that were found were promptly investigated and addressed.
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On Oct 20, 2024, at 00:03, Sonny Edmonds <pedmondsjr@...> wrote:
ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.
Sonny,
I never thanked you for your reply.? Thank you.? I was thinking about the extension and re-read what you wrote.? I think I will get the 12" extension first unless you and the group think the ra extension makes more sense.? I am hoping to increase the mount limits for more imaging time near the meridian.
Again, thank you.
Tom
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 12:03 AM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:
I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
Unlike Windows updates, ASCOM updates are not forced on you. If you see something in the update that you might want or need, go ahead and try it. Otherwise, there's little need to upgrade. There's no requirement for you to update to Platform 7 to run the latest Gemini ASCOM driver -- it's compatible with nearly all previous platforms, including 6 and 5. And, unlike Windows updates, reported issues are fixed quickly. This time, in a matter of a couple of days.
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
Update 1 has been released with some fixes including the Gemini selector issue
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Ken
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 11:43 AM, <stargazr39@...> wrote:
Paul?
I have been so involved with trying to get the Gemini working that I havent done anything else.?
As for connecting via ethernet, it looks complicated and I had the other issue to deal with.? Goal 1 is to get the Gemini working, then I'll worry about the other stuff.?
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Ron Abbott?
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When you are having issues with a Gemini 2 and the mount is not acting "right" establishing reliable communication, preferably via Ethernet should be job #1. I say this because problems and issues can only be observed through the Gemini's? behavior and the configuration settings are not as easily seen, some can only be seen through the web browser UI.? Get it connected to an Ethernet port on a laptop or PC so you can see how it is really configured and if need be updated and/or missing files added directly to the Gemini's file system.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
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I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
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I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Sonny Edmonds
GM811G HD
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 07:46 PM, Oberon510 wrote:
Wow - I hope they address that particular issue but I have been running fine with 7 MR and the prior 2 beta versions and Gemini.
An update to Platform 7 is in the works. As I said, if you have already selected Gemini.NET as your telescope driver in all your apps, you will not have any problems with Platform 7. But if you need to select it from a 32-bit application using ASCOM chooser, this will fail.?
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Forgive my curiosity, but did you ever get this resolved?
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Re: Update Process Question
I copied those new L6.05 .htm/.cgi files to the appropriate subdirectories on the SD card, reinstalled and powered up.? Now I can see the new "Flip Point" feature on the Mount Webpage.? All good.
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Thanks for the education.? I'll add this to my update notes.
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
Wow - I hope they address that particular issue but I have been running fine with 7 MR and the prior 2 beta versions and Gemini.
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Ken
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Re: Update Process Question
On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 06:20 PM, criscopenneys wrote:
How:
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Via GFU ,had to reformat SD card then load up L6.02.? ?The "Flash" and "Reboot" timed out and was unsuccessful (normal for my setup).? I removed the SD card, used a card reader and renamed NewGem.bin to HGM.Gem2.bin, reinstalled the SD card and powered on Gemini.? Gemini then updated the firmware to 6.05 (HC was already at 1.63).
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Main firmware and HC?
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I hope I understood your question correctly.? Computer connects to Gemini via direct ethernet connection (end to end with nothing in between).
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The L6.05 zip file contained more than just the .bin firmware file, it also contained a number of sub-directories and .htm and .cgi files in those subdirectories. Make sure you have these copied to your SD card, as well. GFU would automatically transfer all of the files over to the SD card, but if you copied just the .bin file by hand, you're missing the rest.
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Re: Update Process Question
How:
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Via GFU ,had to reformat SD card then load up L6.02.? ?The "Flash" and "Reboot" timed out and was unsuccessful (normal for my setup).? I removed the SD card, used a card reader and renamed NewGem.bin to HGM.Gem2.bin, reinstalled the SD card and powered on Gemini.? Gemini then updated the firmware to 6.05 (HC was already at 1.63).
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What:
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Main firmware and HC?
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I hope I understood your question correctly.? Computer connects to Gemini via direct ethernet connection (end to end with nothing in between).
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Re: Update Process Question
On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 05:33 PM, criscopenneys wrote:
Now that I updated to L6.05, I wanted to check out the new "Flip Point" feature.? Connected everything and pulled up the "Mount" webpage.? Below is what I see.? I am supposed to see those four new boxes correct?
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How and what did you update, Chris??
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Re: Update Process Question
Now that I updated to L6.05, I wanted to check out the new "Flip Point" feature.? Connected everything and pulled up the "Mount" webpage.? Below is what I see.? I am supposed to see those four new boxes correct?
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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:20 AM, Beta Available
the L6.05 {Oct 13 2024 19:16}
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In the Browser panel (Mount) the new Flip activation Checkboxes (East and West) allow entering a check to activate the Flip operation.? But when unchecked these boxes do not take effect, the choice remains checked or active upon refresh.? (At least on my install.? Not critical in beta with a HC to reset.? Please check)
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Doug
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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62
Thank you, Chip! Good tests and detailed feedback
helped a lot!
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Am 18.10.24 um 20:33 schrieb Chip
Louie:
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On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 08:27 AM, Rene Goerlich wrote:
Good to hear you
like it! You've really made a very helpful proposal, thank
you!
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Am 17.10.24 um 14:38 schrieb
criscopenneys via groups.io:
Btw:
Have you already used the HC firmware (looking at the
main screen) with the mount being near the Western
Safety Limit (an hour or less)?
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Yes!?
Last night I had to try out the new updates after
updating yesterday (L6.05, HC 1.63).? I targeted M2 and
let the mount track. When the MI-250 got within an hour
of needing to flip, the new "Limit" feature appeared on
the HC!? What a useful feature!? Instead of looking at
the mount's physical position and trying to guess when
it will get to the safety limit, now I know exactly how
much time is left just by glancing at the Hand
Controller.? VERY convenient!
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Thanks
to all who worked on this update and made it possible.
Another feature that makes Gemini easier to use.
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Chris
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Yes!? Thanks Rene, the new Gemini L6.05beta and HC1.63beta
seems to be working now!?
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Chip Louie
Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 05:57 PM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:
I'd recommend that you remain on Platform 6 and don't upgrade to Platform 7 until this is resolved.
Thanks Paul. This is why I stopped being an early adopter of new gear and new software. I'm happy to let others to find the bugs and report back :).
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John
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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
Thanks for the heads up Paul!
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Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7
Hi Folks,
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There appears to be some compatibility issue with Platform 7 ASCOM Chooser and Gemini.NET ASCOM driver. The chooser refuses to select Gemini driver.
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Any existing apps that are already configured to connect to Gemini.NET will continue to work fine, but if you need to set up a new connection from a new app where ASCOM chooser is involved, this is likely to fail.
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I've asked the ASCOM Platform team for help. For now, I'd recommend that you remain on Platform 6 and don't upgrade to Platform 7 until this is resolved.?
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Regards,
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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 08:27 AM, Rene Goerlich wrote:
Good to hear you like it! You've really made a very helpful proposal, thank you!
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
Am 17.10.24 um 14:38 schrieb criscopenneys via groups.io:
Btw: Have you already used the HC firmware (looking at the main screen) with the mount being near the Western Safety Limit (an hour or less)?
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
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Yes!? Last night I had to try out the new updates after updating yesterday (L6.05, HC 1.63).? I targeted M2 and let the mount track. When the MI-250 got within an hour of needing to flip, the new "Limit" feature appeared on the HC!? What a useful feature!? Instead of looking at the mount's physical position and trying to guess when it will get to the safety limit, now I know exactly how much time is left just by glancing at the Hand Controller.? VERY convenient!
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Thanks to all who worked on this update and made it possible. Another feature that makes Gemini easier to use.
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Chris
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Yes!? Thanks Rene, the new Gemini L6.05beta and HC1.63beta seems to be working now!?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
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