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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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Hi Paul,

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That seems plausible even if it fails the aesthetic tests.

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Thanks, David

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Kanevsky
Sent: 22 October 2024 12:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 06:03 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Is there one you know of that takes 12V from a barrel connector and drives a USB-C PD ?

Don't really know much about it, but would something like this work?? 5v@3A from 12V DC, waterproof, and has a USB-C connector:

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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 06:03 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Is there one you know of that takes 12V from a barrel connector and drives a USB-C PD ?

Don't really know much about it, but would something like this work?? 5v@3A from 12V DC, waterproof, and has a USB-C connector:

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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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Most of those seem to be USB-C *to* barrel connector (IOW power from the USB-C PD port setup to deliver 5V?? to the barrel connector).

Is there one you know of that takes 12V from a barrel connector and drives a USB-C PD ?

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David

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chip Louie
Sent: 22 October 2024 04:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

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On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 07:03 PM, William Thomas wrote:

That sounds like using your laptop with a docking station having an ethernet port for the gemini and appropriate ports for the camera(s) involved. ? ?The laptop is the one that would connect with wifi. ?Might need a wifi extender to reach the laptop when outside. ?

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On Oct 21, 2024, at 2:52?PM, Ryan Noonan via groups.io <repast_twerps0r@...> wrote:

I also use the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800. I’ve tried a few and that one has worked the best so far

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The Slate-AX needs an honest 5V@2A supply to run reliably and more is a plus if running multiple 1GBs connection on the internal switch.? I tried to use a standard 1A USB type A port for power on my DIY power pack and it was not reliable.? I had to add a dedicated output for the Slate-AX router.? There are common 5.5 x 2.1mm (and other barrels I'm sure) to USB-C shorty cables and adapters available so you should be able to use your existing powerbox ports NP.? ? ? ?

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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

Thank you for the update .


On Mon, 21 Oct 2024, 23:39 Paul Kanevsky via , <yh=[email protected]> wrote:
The ASCOM platform team published a quick fix to the compatibility issue reported earlier that affected Gemini.NET driver and ASCOM Chooser.
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Platform 7 update 1 is available for download from website and is safe to use.
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Regards,
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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 07:03 PM, William Thomas wrote:
That sounds like using your laptop with a docking station having an ethernet port for the gemini and appropriate ports for the camera(s) involved. ? ?The laptop is the one that would connect with wifi. ?Might need a wifi extender to reach the laptop when outside. ?

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On Oct 21, 2024, at 2:52?PM, Ryan Noonan via groups.io <repast_twerps0r@...> wrote:

I also use the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800. I’ve tried a few and that one has worked the best so far
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The Slate-AX needs an honest 5V@2A supply to run reliably and more is a plus if running multiple 1GBs connection on the internal switch.? I tried to use a standard 1A USB type A port for power on my DIY power pack and it was not reliable.? I had to add a dedicated output for the Slate-AX router.? There are common 5.5 x 2.1mm (and other barrels I'm sure) to USB-C shorty cables and adapters available so you should be able to use your existing powerbox ports NP.? ? ? ?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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That sounds like using your laptop with a docking station having an ethernet port for the gemini and appropriate ports for the camera(s) involved. ? ?The laptop is the one that would connect with wifi. ?Might need a wifi extender to reach the laptop when outside. ?


On Oct 21, 2024, at 2:52?PM, Ryan Noonan via groups.io <repast_twerps0r@...> wrote:

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I also use the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800. I’ve tried a few and that one has worked the best so far
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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That Slate-AX sounds great apart from the USB-C port for power.?? I have 12V DC barrel connectors on my power box but nothing that has USB-C ?

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I guess I need to find a 12v to USB-C power supply.

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D.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chip Louie
Sent: 21 October 2024 20:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

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[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: sorry, missed this last bit which was the important part for the OP. ]

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I can second using GL.iNET routers, I have been using them on the mount for many years and have kept upgrading as they released newer faster versions.? The current model which I am using that makes the most sense to me is the compact Slate-AX AKA GL-AXT1800.? You can go faster on 5GHz. with a Beryl-AX but there is not a lot of advantage to it if you need to use the 2.5GHz. band for reliability.? As a person using ASIAIR which had about the worse Wi-Fi implementation imaginable I figured out how to add a wired travel router was key.? Initially everyone including ZWO said it did not work, but in fact it worked perfectly and fully resolved the Wi-Fi problems of the ASIAIR.? When the original Slate routers came out they had a built-in 3 port switch which eliminated the necessity of adding a small switch as I had been doing previously so now the Slate travel router solution also allowed access to the Gemin 2 over Ethernet without the extra piece of admittedly small piece of networking hardware which is how I have been using Gemini 2 for years.? The Slate travel routers have always had retained the 3 port switch feature as does the Slate-AX.? The Beryl-AX only has one LAN port but it can be reconfigured as a second LAN port if needed as would be the case for an ASIAIR user.??

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The other great feature not often talked about for regular Gemin 2 users is that these routers can be configured to act as bridge router from the Gemin 2 on the mount to the home LAN over Wi-Fi.? So you can have access in the basement or wherever from the house Wi-Fi LAN out to the Gemini 2 using the Slate-AX as a bridge router.? ?

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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

Thanks, Paul...


On Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 6:39?p.m. Paul Kanevsky via <yh=[email protected]> wrote:
The ASCOM platform team published a quick fix to the compatibility issue reported earlier that affected Gemini.NET driver and ASCOM Chooser.
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Platform 7 update 1 is available for download from website and is safe to use.
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

The ASCOM platform team published a quick fix to the compatibility issue reported earlier that affected Gemini.NET driver and ASCOM Chooser.
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Platform 7 update 1 is available for download from website and is safe to use.
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 
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I can second using GL.iNET routers, I have been using them on the mount for many years and have kept upgrading as they released newer faster versions.? The current model which I am using that makes the most sense to me is the compact Slate-AX AKA GL-AXT1800.? You can go faster on 5GHz. with a Beryl-AX but there is not a lot of advantage to it if you need to use the 2.5GHz. band for reliability.? As a person using ASIAIR which had about the worse Wi-Fi implementation imaginable I figured out how to add a wired travel router was key.? Initially everyone including ZWO said it did not work, but in fact it worked perfectly and fully resolved the Wi-Fi problems of the ASIAIR.? When the original Slate routers came out they had a built-in 3 port switch which eliminated the necessity of adding a small switch as I had been doing previously so now the Slate travel router solution also allowed access to the Gemin 2 over Ethernet without the extra piece of admittedly small piece of networking hardware which is how I have been using Gemini 2 for years.? The Slate travel routers have always had retained the 3 port switch feature as does the Slate-AX.? The Beryl-AX only has one LAN port but it can be reconfigured as a second LAN port if needed as would be the case for an ASIAIR user.??
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The other great feature not often talked about for regular Gemin 2 users is that these routers can be configured to act as bridge router from the Gemin 2 on the mount to the home LAN over Wi-Fi.? So you can have access in the basement or wherever from the house Wi-Fi LAN out to the Gemini 2 using the Slate-AX as a bridge router.? ?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

I also use the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800. I’ve tried a few and that one has worked the best so far
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

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In any event ASCOM 7 SP1 is working fine now.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

Hi David,
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I use a GL.iNet GL-AXT1800 in 2.4ghz mode as a AP/Repeater. It is powered by USB C if you have access to that connection at your telescope - mine is connected to my NUC for power.
It also has two ethernet ports if you want to connect the Gemini-2 etc..
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Good luck,
Ken
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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

OK my terminology was wrong. I want to have a laptop at the telescope connected to a "box" that connects to my wifi network and has a couple of ethernet ports, one for the G-2 and one for the laptopn.

So, I need a recommendation for that "box" (and maybe a correct nomenclature ...).

D.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Huh? You literally said that you were looking for an access point ("... so I'm hoping I can find a good AP...") so I pointed you at one that is both weatherproof and is powered by PoE; two common features of outdoor access points. The one I pointed you at would be mounted on the outside of your home/building and optionally be equipped with external antennas; even directional ones. Your imaging PC would have its own wifi capability and the external AP would have a single ethernet cable that is ran internally inside your home to wherever your router/switch is located. Perhaps you didn't fully articulate your requirements or have something else in mind?


On Oct 21, 2024, at 13:32, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

That's the whole point - I already have a WAP and router, I just want a wireless connection from the telescope to the network - i.e. no ethernet cables except on the 'scope.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.




On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don’t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ‘scope, so I’m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I’m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

Huh? You literally said that you were looking for an access point ("... so I'm hoping I can find a good AP...") so I pointed you at one that is both weatherproof and is powered by PoE; two common features of outdoor access points. The one I pointed you at would be mounted on the outside of your home/building and optionally be equipped with external antennas; even directional ones. Your imaging PC would have its own wifi capability and the external AP would have a single ethernet cable that is ran internally inside your home to wherever your router/switch is located. Perhaps you didn't fully articulate your requirements or have something else in mind?

On Oct 21, 2024, at 13:32, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

That's the whole point - I already have a WAP and router, I just want a wireless connection from the telescope to the network - i.e. no ethernet cables except on the 'scope.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.




On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don’t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ‘scope, so I’m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I’m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

That's the whole point - I already have a WAP and router, I just want a wireless connection from the telescope to the network - i.e. no ethernet cables except on the 'scope.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Ghent
Sent: 21 October 2024 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point


Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.




On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don’t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ‘scope, so I’m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I’m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

Any of the Ubiquiti mesh access points are a good choice. They all do PoE, so you only need to run a single cat5e (or better) to it with a (usually provided) PoE injector in-line with the cable back at your switch/router farther inside the house, or no PoE injector at all if you have an ethernet switch that features PoE ports.

On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:45, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:

I don’t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ‘scope, so I’m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network. Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.
Recommendations most welcome.
PS I’m in the UK if that makes a difference.
Thanks
David
12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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I don’t greatly wish to lay a long Cat6 cable to my ‘scope, so I’m hoping I can find a good AP that can connect to my ethernet network.? Needs to be suitable to use outside, and run off 12V.

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Recommendations most welcome.

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PS I’m in the UK if that makes a difference.

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Thanks

David

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Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 09:03 PM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:
ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
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I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
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I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Sonny Edmonds
GM811G HD
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Then don't update as soon as they are released.??
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: Warning: please hold off on updating to ASCOM Platform 7

 

The ASCOM release was available for several months in release candidate form to offer folks the opportunity to give it a try and report any issues prior to it being released under general availability. Some of the issues found after the GA release of ASCOM 7 arose out of highly specific driver and host software combinations; combinations that can be impossible for the ASCOM maintainers to fully test themselves, especially if the driver requires its associated equipment to be in hand. This is why participation from the community is key to ensuring everything is covered.

To ASCOM's credit, the post-GA issues that were found were promptly investigated and addressed.

On Oct 20, 2024, at 00:03, Sonny Edmonds <pedmondsjr@...> wrote:

ASCOM, as well as astap have been doing several updates recently.
And in my experience, they are not good.
That, coupled with janky Windows Updates have me not trusting any of these updates.
I thought I had a work around for astap, but low and behold it is back to failing, again.
I for one am sick of these updates to fix updates that break our programs.
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Sonny Edmonds
GM811G HD
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