Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Miguel
when you go to the site where the Gemini 2 is, try and take an
SDcard reader with you.? You may have to remove the SDcard from
the hand controller and do the update the hard way.? That would
involve redoing the SDRam card.? It is not that had of a process.?
You could even prepare a sub-directory on your computer with an
image of the complete SD card before you go.? Then all you would
have to do is remove the card from the hand controller, format it
with FAT File system, copy the files over to it, and put it back
into the hand controller.?? If you need I can post the step by
step instruction on how to generate the image of the SD card, or
better yet I will try and put up the latest
Handcontroller SD image, with the latest firmware change.?? You
will also need to make the main controller have the latest
firmware update to match the hand controller.
Tom Hilton
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Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hi ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦, thank you very much for your answer, I explain you: At this moment I have not the controller or HC, I will try to go to the observatory early tomorrow to check it along these days, we will like to work with it on the observatory the next Tuesday.. When we power on the Main Board with the HC connected to the 2nd serial port, the screen is on, but we don?t receive any message, any info, nothing.. we touch it, but it doesn?t response, but it is bright, no dark.. We think it is a problem with the firmware ..?? My partner (not me) has tried to upload the firmware that I found in the "Files" section on the group but he said me that he has not reached apparent results. I will? take the relief with this matter and try to solve this, but I am slightly lost with the
process to upload the firmware if it was necessary. I have spoken with a responsible of the project and he has confirmed me that he could access to the Main Controller (I understand this) through the network connection.. Ok, the next step is take the Gemini and try, if I have new doubts or problems I will ask in the list.. But if you have any advice about the firmware check or upload, I would appreciate it very much.. Regards! ? Miguel Angel P¨¦rez Hern¨¢ndez
Alpha Cygni S.L.
c/ San Agust¨ªn, 23
38410 - Los Realejos
S.C. de Tenerife
Islas Canarias - Espa?a
Tlf/fax: 0034 922 34 30 38
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De: Rene Goerlich
Para: Gemini-II@...
Enviado: jue,10 febrero, 2011 13:01
Asunto: Re: [Gemini-II] Gemini 2 in
our hands... Anything on display...
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Hi Miguel,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything on
the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load
the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
So you can access the web server, but the HC stays dark?
What you can check:
- Is the HC connected to the correct port (second serial port)?
- Does the cable used has all 6 wires connected (straight RJ12/6P6C)?
- if the above is correct, you can open the G2 cover plate and check if
jumper JP2 is set correctly (middle and right contacts closed
vertically), since this provides the power to the port.
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
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Re: Where are the Gemini Twos?
I ordered my G11 with Gemini-2 yesterday. The dealer said to expect an April/May delivery. I don't know how this compares for deliveries of just the Gemini-2 upgrade. Around the time you ordered I think they were saying Feb/Mar deliveries. As to actual deliveries I have no idea.
Gale
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Are they actually shipping in any numbers yet? I placed an order with Astronomics the day after they were listed on Losmondy's home site. Any idea how long I will have to wait?
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Re: Support for the original four-button controller
Join the gemini 2 users group, then goto the photo section
Good day
Tom Hilton
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-----Original message----- From: John Nassr <jnassr2010@...>
To: Gemini-II@...
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 14:14:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Support for the original four-button controller
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Hello Rene,
Thank you for your reply!? Wonderful and good to know. Is a picture of the tactile membrane available anywhere?
John
--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Rene Goerlich <Rene@...> wrote:
From: Rene Goerlich <Rene@...>
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Support for the original four-button controller
To: Gemini-II@...
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:48 PM
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Hi John,
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The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the
original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details
regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or
interface with the original four button controller that has tactile
feel even in the dark?
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It has. Just plug the classic HC into the port into the button at the
bottom.
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The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does
this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture
of this tactile membrane?
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This is the same type of membrane as the DeLuxe HC with the display had.
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My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger
tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer
screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button
controller ideal for my needs.
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I love it, escpecially at the eyepiece with the classic HC in the
pocket. Also, the graphic HC now has a screen lock that you can operate
the buttons without looking at the display.
Best,
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
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Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
--- In Gemini-II@..., Dave Sandage <dave@...> wrote:
Hi Wojtek,
I have successfully connected a Gemini 2 to my wireless network using a
TrendNet access point in AP-client mode. In this mode it basically acts as
a media converter to go from WiFi to Ethernet. I connected an Ethernet
cable from Gemini 2 to the AP and the Gemini now appears on my wireless
network. There are other products (sometimes called WiFi Bridges) that do
the same thing. There is no additional functionality in the Gemini device -
it just talks out its Ethernet port. Theoretically any wireless adapter
that claims to allow wired ethernet devices to access WiFi should work.
Dave S.
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, wojciechklimkiewicz <kwojciec@...>wrote:
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol
and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside
(cold weather imaging!).
From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!: "1.
Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub, switch,
router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work?
Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
Thanks Dave, Thanks Rene, Finally, the wireless control is getting to the mainstream of astro-imaging. I also have to solve my SBIG camera and RoboFocus wireless connections, but that probably is not the subject for this group. Wojtek K.
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Re: Support for the original four-button controller
Hello Rene,
Thank you for your reply!? Wonderful and good to know. Is a picture of the tactile membrane available anywhere?
John
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--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Rene Goerlich wrote:
From: Rene Goerlich
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Support for the original four-button controller
To: Gemini-II@...
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:48 PM
?
Hi John,
|
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the
original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details
regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or
interface with the original four button controller that has tactile
feel even in the dark?
|
It has. Just plug the classic HC into the port into the button at the
bottom.
|
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does
this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture
of this tactile membrane?
|
This is the same type of membrane as the DeLuxe HC with the display had.
|
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger
tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer
screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button
controller ideal for my needs.
|
I love it, escpecially at the eyepiece with the classic HC in the
pocket. Also, the graphic HC now has a screen lock that you can operate
the buttons without looking at the display.
Best,
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
|
Re: Support for the original four-button controller
Hi John,
|
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the
original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details
regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or
interface with the original four button controller that has tactile
feel even in the dark?
|
It has. Just plug the classic HC into the port into the button at the
bottom.
|
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does
this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture
of this tactile membrane?
|
This is the same type of membrane as the DeLuxe HC with the display had.
|
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger
tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer
screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button
controller ideal for my needs.
|
I love it, escpecially at the eyepiece with the classic HC in the
pocket. Also, the graphic HC now has a screen lock that you can operate
the buttons without looking at the display.
Best,
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
|
Support for the original four-button controller
Hi,
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or interface with the original four button controller that has tactile feel even in the dark?
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture of this tactile membrane?
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button controller ideal for my needs.
Best regards,
John
John
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Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hi Miguel,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything on
the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load
the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
So you can access the web server, but the HC stays dark?
What you can check:
- Is the HC connected to the correct port (second serial port)?
- Does the cable used has all 6 wires connected (straight RJ12/6P6C)?
- if the above is correct, you can open the G2 cover plate and check if
jumper JP2 is set correctly (middle and right contacts closed
vertically), since this provides the power to the port.
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
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Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hi everybody,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything on the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
Thanks!
Miguel
|
Where are the Gemini Twos?
Are they actually shipping in any numbers yet? I placed an order with Astronomics the day after they were listed on Losmondy's home site. Any idea how long I will have to wait?
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Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
FWIW
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AP-Client mode is the normal mode used by most wireless routers
and take a WAN connection to create a local network that has access to that WAN
connection (typically your CABLE or DSL Modem)
a WiFI Bridge is a a wireless router that is typically used to
extend your wireless network to multiple routers but you use the same
subnets? (ie.? they all service the 192.168.0.x? CLASS C subnet)
if you try this same thing with a AP what you get is the first router
may be on the 192.168.0.x subnet but the second router would have to be on say
the 192.168.1.x subnet
very simplified but for those who wonder or care is a basic of
what the two devices do.
?
Doug
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From:
Gemini-II@... [mailto:Gemini-II@...] On Behalf Of Dave
Sandage
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:24 PM
To: Gemini-II@...
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Wireless connection to Gemini II
?
?
Hi Wojtek,
I have successfully connected a Gemini 2 to my wireless network using a
TrendNet access point in AP-client mode.? In this mode it basically acts
as a media converter to go from WiFi to Ethernet.? I connected an Ethernet
cable from Gemini 2 to the AP and the Gemini now appears on my wireless
network.? There are other products (sometimes called WiFi Bridges) that do
the same thing.? There is no additional functionality in the Gemini device
- it just talks out its Ethernet port.? Theoretically any wireless adapter
that claims to allow wired ethernet devices to access WiFi should work.
Dave S.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, wojciechklimkiewicz < kwojciec@...> wrote:
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I have Losmandy G11 with
Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol and consider buying Gemnini
II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside
(cold weather imaging!).
>From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!:
"1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub,
switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work?
Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
?
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Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
Hi Wojtek,
I have successfully connected a Gemini 2 to my wireless network using a TrendNet access point in AP-client mode.? In this mode it basically acts as a media converter to go from WiFi to Ethernet.? I connected an Ethernet cable from Gemini 2 to the AP and the Gemini now appears on my wireless network.? There are other products (sometimes called WiFi Bridges) that do the same thing.? There is no additional functionality in the Gemini device - it just talks out its Ethernet port.? Theoretically any wireless adapter that claims to allow wired ethernet devices to access WiFi should work.
Dave S.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, wojciechklimkiewicz <kwojciec@...> wrote:
?
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside (cold weather imaging!).
From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!: "1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub, switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work? Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
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Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
Wojtek,
?
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP
protocol and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope
ouside (cold weather imaging!).
>From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do
it!: "1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a
hub, switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will
work? Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
You have to connect G2 to your network over the Ethernet port,
but.there are adapters from cable to wireless available on the market.
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
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Wireless connection to Gemini II
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside (cold weather imaging!).
From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!: "1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub, switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work? Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
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Re: Question about Gemini II diver
Yes, Bill. The latest version of the driver supports both versions of Gemini.
Regards,
On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:22 PM, "BillB" < wbabab@...> wrote:
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If I update my Gemini driver to the II version will it work with Gemini I. Or should I have two drivers?
Bill
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Question about Gemini II diver
If I update my Gemini driver to the II version will it work with Gemini I. Or should I have two drivers?
Bill
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New file uploaded to Gemini-II
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Gemini-II
group.
File : /Documentation_and_Manuals/Gemini-II_Quick_Start_Guide_feb-7_.pdf
Uploaded by : tomhilton1 <tom@...>
Description : Corrected to reflect New DHCP changes
You can access this file at the URL:
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Regards,
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Re: Just what is the status of Gemini II firmware and software?
Hi ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦,
Thanks for the update on PEC, modelling, and the high-res encoders. Sounds like you have made a lot of progress since you are ready to test the modelling.
Gale
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--- In Gemini-II@..., Rene Goerlich <Rene@...> wrote:
Hi Gale,
I think ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ answered a slightly different question. Clearly any new
features never seen in Gemini-I will be addressed in Levels 5, 6, 7,
etc over the next 10 years or so. What I asked is whether there is any
unfinished work replicating the features of Levels 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Probably they are all there, but it is also possible the product was
released when L4 features were sufficiently complete to meet the needs
of most users now and the remainder in the near future.
I've not completely finished two features: PEC and modelling. There were
just too many things to do during the last few weeks that I had to
priorize higher for the user: simple flash methods for the user that he
can easily recover in case of failures while flashing new firmware; more
and customized information on the web pages and the HC, DHCP for network
settings and similiar.
PEC and modelling can't be simply ported from G1/L4. PEC is very
hardware dependent and I also prepared RA axis driving for high-res
encoders. For the modelling I need some clear nights to test it.
Even without these two features, I consider the mounts completely
usable, visual and for photography. There will be some learning curve
for the user anyway, and some undiscoverd bugs may show up. I think that
it makes sense to let these threads run in parallel. I'd like to have
the G2 delivered, because I'll have semester vacancies until end of
march... lots of time to concentrate on G2 and accompany the start.
If someone does not want his G2 delivered w/o these two features, he
should tell Scott, but I've made the upgrade process as easy and as
failsafe as possible. At the beginning I was a bit worried about
flashing, but now, after three years of development and flashing my test
boards several thousand time, I believe the manufacturer ;-)
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
Thanks,
Gale
--- In Gemini-II@... <mailto:Gemini-II%40yahoogroups.com>,
"tom@" <tom@> wrote:
Gale
Rene has already answered this question. Please go back and see
message 68
Tom Hilton
On 2/6/2011 10:43 PM, Gale wrote:
Hi ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦,
The Gemini-II rework of Gemini-I Levels 1-4, are those levels
finalized other than any undiscovered bugs?
Thanks,
Gale
--- In Gemini-II@...
<mailto:Gemini-II%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Gemini-II%40yahoogroups.com>,
Rene Goerlich <Rene@> wrote:
Keith,
Good questions!
Was reading a response to a question over in the Gemini I
forum that
requested this forum was a better place to post. I was a little
surprised to read that even though Gemini II is already shipping
.....
it appears that the firmware and feature set is far from
finalized.
Just what is the status? How far away from finalization is the
firmware and feature set? At what percentage of completion
does the
hardware exist? Is there a feature "roadmap" for the project?
Are the
developers still taking suggestions for the feature set. Is the
development a closed community? I am interested in how the new
hardware will integrate into the existing Gemini I solutions
developed
over the many years of Gemini existence.
Finalized? Gemini II is the base for about another ten years of
development. This clearly set the priorities. The hardware had to be
finalized first. It is, and it has options for the future.
After the hardware, there comes a giant amount of code we call
firmware.
Yes, this is not finalized, although the feature set is already huge. If
you are aware of the development of Gemini I from level one to level
four you know my intentions... to get the most out of it to meet the
user's demands.
Regarding the feature set and in this tradition, I enjoy any suggestions
for new features. There's so much possible that I have to appreciate
your suggestions... everyones imagination is limited. I'd say, the users
are ruling the development, as they did with G1 with so much
different
kinds of use, and if someone likes to contribute some nice
pieces of C
code, oh yes, please! BTW, G2 is a very open system allowing to
create
your own web sites to control it.
There are some big landmarks on the roadmap. Alt/Az support is the next one.
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦
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Re: Error Correction Model
Good answer. Thanks, Keith
Jim Benet
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Paul Kanevsky