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Re: Serial connection to G2

 

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Here’s the Diagnostics which seem (to me) to suggest the coms is sort of working but (for example):

16:57:14.953 Serial wait for response? TID:11 [0]: :GA

16:57:14.964 Serial received:????????? TID:11 [0]: :GA, +52.125278

16:57:14.964 Serial wait for response? TID:11 [0]: :GZ

16:57:14.973 Serial received:????????? TID:11 [0]: :GZ, 360.000000

16:57:14.973 Serial wait for response? TID:11 [0]: :Gv

16:57:14.973 Serial received:????????? TID:11 [0]: :Gv, T

16:57:14.973 UpdatePolledVariables???? TID:11 [Exit]

16:57:14.973 UpdatePolledVariables5??? TID:11 [Exit] True

16:57:14.973 Transmitting commands???? TID:11 [2]: :Sc10/25/24#

16:57:14.973 Serial Transmit?????????? TID:11 [0]: :Sc10/25/24#

16:57:14.973 Done transmitting???????? TID:11 [2]:

16:57:14.973 Serial wait for response? TID:11 [0]: :Sc10/25/24

16:57:26.047 Exception???????????????? TID:11 [Error]: System.TimeoutException: ReadTo[0D][0A]?? at ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.GeminiHardwareBase.ReadTo(Char terminate) in C:\Users\ypa\Documents\Ascom.Gemini.Telescope\GeminiTelescope\Connection.cs:line 961[0D][0A]?? at ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.GeminiHardwareBase.GetCommandResultSerial(CommandItem command, Boolean bResyncOnError, Boolean& bReturn) in C:\Users\ypa\Documents\Ascom.Gemini.Telescope\GeminiTelescope\Connection.cs:line 741

so, things aren’t quite right in the State of Denmark ?

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David

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David C. Partridge
Sent: 25 October 2024 16:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Gemini-II_io] Serial connection to G2

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I haven’t tried to use the serial port on the G2 I have so it’s possible that it’s broken as the G2 wasn’t new when Tanya sent it to me for developing the Servo firmware.

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Here’s what I had with my G1? (with serial port modified to supply 5V on pin 1)

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?????????????? Bluetooth??????????? G1

?????????????? 1 ????????????????????????????????????????? NC

?????????????? 2???????????? ->?????????? 1???????????? 5V

?????????????? 3???????????? ->?????????? 2???????????? GND

??????? TX? 4 ??????????? ->?????????? 3???????????? RX

??????? RX? 5???????????? ->?????????? 4???????????? TX

?????????????? 6?????????????????????????????????????????? NC

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I made up a new lead to connect to the G2

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?????????????? Bluetooth??????????? G2

?????????????? 1 ????????????????????????????????????????? NC

?????????????? 2???????????? ->?????????? 1???????????? 5V

?????????????? 3???????????? ->?????????? 3???????????? GND

??????? TX? 4 ??????????? ->?????????? 2???????????? RX

??????? RX? 5???????????? ->?????????? 5???????????? TX

?????????????? 6?????????????????????????????????????????? NC

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Which I am pretty sure is correct (please tell me if I’ve got it wrong – it would be easy to do).

I’ve checked the cable for continuity

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Baud rate is set to 9600 in Gemini.net and the lead is plugged into the Serial/GPS port on the G2.

The web pages tell me that is also set to 9600 (unlike the HC port which is set to 57600).

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Gemini.net says connected, and then times out and gives up after a couple of attempts.

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Have goofed this up or?

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Cheers, David

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Serial connection to G2

 

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I haven’t tried to use the serial port on the G2 I have so it’s possible that it’s broken as the G2 wasn’t new when Tanya sent it to me for developing the Servo firmware.

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Here’s what I had with my G1? (with serial port modified to supply 5V on pin 1)

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?????????????? Bluetooth??????????? G1

?????????????? 1 ????????????????????????????????????????? NC

?????????????? 2???????????? ->?????????? 1???????????? 5V

?????????????? 3???????????? ->?????????? 2???????????? GND

??????? TX? 4 ??????????? ->?????????? 3???????????? RX

??????? RX? 5???????????? ->?????????? 4???????????? TX

?????????????? 6?????????????????????????????????????????? NC

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I made up a new lead to connect to the G2

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?????????????? Bluetooth??????????? G2

?????????????? 1 ????????????????????????????????????????? NC

?????????????? 2???????????? ->?????????? 1???????????? 5V

?????????????? 3???????????? ->?????????? 3???????????? GND

??????? TX? 4 ??????????? ->?????????? 2???????????? RX

??????? RX? 5???????????? ->?????????? 5???????????? TX

?????????????? 6?????????????????????????????????????????? NC

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Which I am pretty sure is correct (please tell me if I’ve got it wrong – it would be easy to do).

I’ve checked the cable for continuity

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Baud rate is set to 9600 in Gemini.net and the lead is plugged into the Serial/GPS port on the G2.

The web pages tell me that is also set to 9600 (unlike the HC port which is set to 57600).

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Gemini.net says connected, and then times out and gives up after a couple of attempts.

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Have goofed this up or?

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Cheers, David

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Re: Allow speeding up

 

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Yes, I did restart – several times in fact as I’m trying to get serial coms working (but that’s for another thread).

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Kanevsky
Sent: 25 October 2024 15:28
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] Allow speeding up

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Hi David,

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Did you restart Gemini after the new HC firmware was uploaded to the HC? I had a similar experience, and it all cleared up after restarting Gemini.

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Regards,

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? ?-Paul

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On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 10:22 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

I’ve just applied 6.05 plus 1.63 to my G2 and HC.

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I have “allow speeding up” set, so I expected the HC buttons to work like the G1, going from Guide speed to Centre speed to Slew Speed if I hold (e.g.) the right RA button down and press the left button twice.

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But it doesn’t seem to work like that?? If I have speed set to Guide it will only move up to Centring speed when I press the opposite button. HC is set to “All Speeds” mode

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Also, the buttons on the rear of the HC don’t seem to do anything sometimes, other times they do?

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Can anyone cast some light for me?

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Cheers, David

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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

The 6.05 and 1.63c betas seem to work fine using normal hand control operations for visual and with ASIAIR Plus v3.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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I just heard back from GL.iNet tech support and the Slate-AX is not 12v tolerant.? So as expected you need to use a 5v power source.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: Allow speeding up

 

Hi David,
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Did you restart Gemini after the new HC firmware was uploaded to the HC? I had a similar experience, and it all cleared up after restarting Gemini.
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 10:22 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

I’ve just applied 6.05 plus 1.63 to my G2 and HC.

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I have “allow speeding up” set, so I expected the HC buttons to work like the G1, going from Guide speed to Centre speed to Slew Speed if I hold (e.g.) the right RA button down and press the left button twice.

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But it doesn’t seem to work like that?? If I have speed set to Guide it will only move up to Centring speed when I press the opposite button. HC is set to “All Speeds” mode

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Also, the buttons on the rear of the HC don’t seem to do anything sometimes, other times they do?

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Can anyone cast some light for me?

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Cheers, David

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Allow speeding up

 

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I’ve just applied 6.05 plus 1.63 to my G2 and HC.

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I have “allow speeding up” set, so I expected the HC buttons to work like the G1, going from Guide speed to Centre speed to Slew Speed if I hold (e.g.) the right RA button down and press the left button twice.

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But it doesn’t seem to work like that?? If I have speed set to Guide it will only move up to Centring speed when I press the opposite button. HC is set to “All Speeds” mode

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Also, the buttons on the rear of the HC don’t seem to do anything sometimes, other times they do?

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Can anyone cast some light for me?

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Cheers, David

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G2 NINA and Meridian Flip

 

I have L5 hardware and was wondering for southern Hemisphere are there any special requirements in the set up of the mount or while using NINA for it to perform a meridian flip, thanks
Re: periodic error training (PemPro config question)

 

Hi Steve,
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Brian isn't visiting here very often anymore, so let me attempt to give you an answer.
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> One, after uploading to the mount and verifying the curves and riding off into the sunset, do we go back into Gemini PEC configuration and set the worm period back to 1x?
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No, don't change the worm setting. You don't need to do 2x worm cycle recording/programming. You can do 1x worm cycle, as well. 2x takes longer and will only help in the specific case that you have a certain error that can't be fixed by 1x worm cycle PEC. But either way should work.
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>? Two, on the PemPro site ? (updated 2023) there's no mention of this. Is there a conflict here, is your doc still relevant with this idea, etc.?
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PemPro has been updated since 2023. Early 2024, a version with some changes and bug fixes was released specifically to address the Gemini PEC programming with L6.02 and above. Just download the latest version of PEMPro available.
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> And unrelated to those: On the site's document it asks to "go into the "Advanced Setup" page and uncheck "Gemini expects J2000 co-ordinates" because they both need to be on the JNow page--is that also required from your perspective?
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It's not required, but it is recommended. You don't need J2000 conversion unless you have certain software that only supports that epoch. To program PEC you don't need J2000 precession conversion.
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Regards,
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 02:13 PM, Steve wrote:

Brian,
(Just took delivery of a GM11T; works great and now refining) On page 2 and 3 of your guide /g/Gemini-II/files/Documentation_and_Manuals/Losmandy%20PEC%20Primer.pdf you state to "set to 2x PEC cycle" and in the viewer and waveform analysis and correction we need to remember the periods are 2x . . . got that, but . . .

Two questions:
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  • One, after uploading to the mount and verifying the curves and riding off into the sunset, do we go back into Gemini PEC configuration and set the worm period back to 1x?
  • Two, on the PemPro site ? (updated 2023) there's no mention of this. Is there a conflict here, is your doc still relevant with this idea, etc.?
And unrelated to those: On the site's document it asks to "go into the "Advanced Setup" page and uncheck "Gemini expects J2000 co-ordinates" because they both need to be on the JNow page--is that also required from your perspective?

Thanks for you time; love your valuable advice and presentations.

Regards
Steve
Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 
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Hi Ken,
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Totally up to you. The beta seems pretty stable, and has bug fixes and enhancements, so should be worth an upgrade. v1.63c of the HC and L6.05 are now available for beta testing.
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Regards,
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? -Paul
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 04:47 PM, Oberon510 wrote:

Hi,
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I am just about ready to update and test this beta but it has been a while since posts and wanted to check whether you need any more or should I just wait for MR.
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Where are you at with it?
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Thanks,
Ken
Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

Hi,
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I am just about ready to update and test this beta but it has been a while since posts and wanted to check whether you need any more or should I just wait for MR.
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Where are you at with it?
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Thanks,
Ken
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 04:31 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Hi Paul,

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That seems plausible even if it fails the aesthetic tests.

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Thanks, David

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Kanevsky
Sent: 22 October 2024 12:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 06:03 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Is there one you know of that takes 12V from a barrel connector and drives a USB-C PD ?

Don't really know much about it, but would something like this work?? 5v@3A from 12V DC, waterproof, and has a USB-C connector:

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I have a tech support question in GL.iNet regarding the Slate-AX USB C port's 12v tolerance.? Many of these ports are independently regulated at the input and can tolerate some higher voltages at the input.? ?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 04:33 AM, Joel Black wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 08:50 PM, David C. Partridge wrote:

That Slate-AX sounds great apart from the USB-C port for power.?? I have 12V DC barrel connectors on my power box but nothing that has USB-C ?

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I guess I need to find a 12v to USB-C power supply.

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D.

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I use one of the GL.iNet routers with the USB C connection for DC power from my PegausAstro PowerPocket Advanced. If you can solder, it's pretty easy to take a barrel pigtail and USB C power pigtail (; note the correct polarity) and solder them together using a lineman's splice. Cover up each splice with heat shrink and, voila, you have an adapter cable; otherwise, get butt connectors and splice them that way. I just prefer soldered connections.
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Regards,
Joel
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The question is are you using the adjustable power output of the PAPPA or a regular 12v output?? ?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

Astrospheric - South Pasadena, CA?
Re: periodic error training (PemPro config question)

 

Brian,
(Just took delivery of a GM11T; works great and now refining) On page 2 and 3 of your guide /g/Gemini-II/files/Documentation_and_Manuals/Losmandy%20PEC%20Primer.pdf you state to "set to 2x PEC cycle" and in the viewer and waveform analysis and correction we need to remember the periods are 2x . . . got that, but . . .

Two questions:
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  • One, after uploading to the mount and verifying the curves and riding off into the sunset, do we go back into Gemini PEC configuration and set the worm period back to 1x?
  • Two, on the PemPro site ? (updated 2023) there's no mention of this. Is there a conflict here, is your doc still relevant with this idea, etc.?
And unrelated to those: On the site's document it asks to "go into the "Advanced Setup" page and uncheck "Gemini expects J2000 co-ordinates" because they both need to be on the JNow page--is that also required from your perspective?

Thanks for you time; love your valuable advice and presentations.

Regards
Steve
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

I just saw a new that’s rated for outdoor use and is supposed to have a very generous coverage. Maybe this is what you’re looking for??
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let me warn you beforehand though, it is most certainly not inexpensive by any definition of the word lol
Re: ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 01:02 PM, gcr1ofsix@... wrote:
I no longer have a gemini mount.? You can take me off your mailing list, thank you.
Greg Riffle
Greg, you can unsubscribe yourself from Groups.io directly: /g/Gemini-II/editsub. Scroll down to the end of that page to see the "Leave Group" button.
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Regards,
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?-Paul?
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Re: ASCOM Platform 7 Update 1 are now safe to use with Gemini.NET driver

 

I no longer have a gemini mount.? You can take me off your mailing list, thank you.
Greg Riffle

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 06:39:13 PM EDT, Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote:


The ASCOM platform team published a quick fix to the compatibility issue reported earlier that affected Gemini.NET driver and ASCOM Chooser.
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Platform 7 update 1 is available for download from website and is safe to use.
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Regards,
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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 08:50 PM, David C. Partridge wrote:

That Slate-AX sounds great apart from the USB-C port for power.?? I have 12V DC barrel connectors on my power box but nothing that has USB-C ?

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I guess I need to find a 12v to USB-C power supply.

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D.

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I use one of the GL.iNet routers with the USB C connection for DC power from my PegausAstro PowerPocket Advanced. If you can solder, it's pretty easy to take a barrel pigtail and USB C power pigtail (; note the correct polarity) and solder them together using a lineman's splice. Cover up each splice with heat shrink and, voila, you have an adapter cable; otherwise, get butt connectors and splice them that way. I just prefer soldered connections.
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Regards,
Joel
Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

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Hi Paul,

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That seems plausible even if it fails the aesthetic tests.

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Thanks, David

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Kanevsky
Sent: 22 October 2024 12:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 06:03 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Is there one you know of that takes 12V from a barrel connector and drives a USB-C PD ?

Don't really know much about it, but would something like this work?? 5v@3A from 12V DC, waterproof, and has a USB-C connector:

?

?

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Re: 12V Exterior grade Wireless Access Point

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 06:03 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Is there one you know of that takes 12V from a barrel connector and drives a USB-C PD ?

Don't really know much about it, but would something like this work?? 5v@3A from 12V DC, waterproof, and has a USB-C connector:

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