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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 
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Doug,

I'm reading the state of the Flip Points before changing to the flip points screen. This should help.
Please give the Beta2 version a test:

/g/Gemini-II/files/Gemini%20HC%201.62%20beta/gemhc162beta2.zip

Thank you,
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦


Am 01.10.24 um 01:57 schrieb WayBack:

This looks really nice, a possible issue for ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ and this HC beta list of corrections to do at some point.
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There seems to be a synchronization issue between the HC stat flags and the Gemini-2.? Several examples but the easiest displays in this way:? On first entering the Flip Panel (status <229 of 0x0) the panel buttons show "Activate ..." for East and West.? Press each button and these display "Deactivate ...".? Exit the panel and re-enter the Filp Panel, now the buttons display "Activate ...", the wrong status.? Obtain the physical status on Gemini-2 using the ASCOM Terminal (<229) this displays 0x03, both as active.? Restart Gemini-2 and upon entry into the Flip Panel the buttons read "Deactivate ...", the correct status.
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Doug
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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 06:00 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:

I also see updated main firmware ?

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Should these be in the files section of the? beta group rather than here?

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D.

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Hi David, these are a few simple enhancements to existing firmware, not a major firmware release. I don¡¯t think it¡¯s worth ?reinstating the beta group just to verify these.?

Regards,

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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

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I also see updated main firmware ?

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Should these be in the files section of the? beta group rather than here?

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D.

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From: David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...>
Sent: 01 October 2024 10:58
To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Gemini-II_io] Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

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To discuss here or in the beta group??? If the latter I will allow folks to join the beta group ¡­ else not.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Kanevsky
Sent: 30 September 2024 18:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Gemini-II_io] Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

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Folks,

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¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ provided a new (beta test) version of the Hand Controller firmware to use with L6.x:?
/g/Gemini-II/files/Gemini%20HC%201.62%20beta


This firmware adds some of the requested features:


- Show time to limit on the main screen, when time remaining is less than 1 hour

- Checkbox to invert the direction of gearboxes in Mount->Gearing (for McLennan gearboxes , for example)?

- New page added under Mount->Flip to enable/disable and to configure meridian flip points

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gemhc.bin file is in the zip needs to be uploaded to Gemini HCFirmware folder on the SD card. You can do that through the Gemini web pages SD Card menu, or through GFU Advanced tab (drop the whole zip file in the HC section).

Remember to restart Gemini after updating this file. The HC will show uploading.... message for a little bit. When completed, the HC firmware version should show this:

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Please report any issues/observations/more suggestions here.

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Regards,

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? ?-Paul
Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

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To discuss here or in the beta group??? If the latter I will allow folks to join the beta group ¡­ else not.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Kanevsky
Sent: 30 September 2024 18:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Gemini-II_io] Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

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Folks,

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¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ provided a new (beta test) version of the Hand Controller firmware to use with L6.x:?
/g/Gemini-II/files/Gemini%20HC%201.62%20beta


This firmware adds some of the requested features:


- Show time to limit on the main screen, when time remaining is less than 1 hour

- Checkbox to invert the direction of gearboxes in Mount->Gearing (for McLennan gearboxes , for example)?

- New page added under Mount->Flip to enable/disable and to configure meridian flip points

?

gemhc.bin file is in the zip needs to be uploaded to Gemini HCFirmware folder on the SD card. You can do that through the Gemini web pages SD Card menu, or through GFU Advanced tab (drop the whole zip file in the HC section).

Remember to restart Gemini after updating this file. The HC will show uploading.... message for a little bit. When completed, the HC firmware version should show this:

?

Please report any issues/observations/more suggestions here.

?

Regards,

?

? ?-Paul
Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

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Thanks for the report, Doug.

¸é±ð²Ô¨¦


Am 01.10.24 um 01:57 schrieb WayBack:

This looks really nice, a possible issue for ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ and this HC beta list of corrections to do at some point.
?
There seems to be a synchronization issue between the HC stat flags and the Gemini-2.? Several examples but the easiest displays in this way:? On first entering the Flip Panel (status <229 of 0x0) the panel buttons show "Activate ..." for East and West.? Press each button and these display "Deactivate ...".? Exit the panel and re-enter the Filp Panel, now the buttons display "Activate ...", the wrong status.? Obtain the physical status on Gemini-2 using the ASCOM Terminal (<229) this displays 0x03, both as active.? Restart Gemini-2 and upon entry into the Flip Panel the buttons read "Deactivate ...", the correct status.
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Doug
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Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 

This looks really nice, a possible issue for ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ and this HC beta list of corrections to do at some point.
?
There seems to be a synchronization issue between the HC stat flags and the Gemini-2.? Several examples but the easiest displays in this way:? On first entering the Flip Panel (status <229 of 0x0) the panel buttons show "Activate ..." for East and West.? Press each button and these display "Deactivate ...".? Exit the panel and re-enter the Filp Panel, now the buttons display "Activate ...", the wrong status.? Obtain the physical status on Gemini-2 using the ASCOM Terminal (<229) this displays 0x03, both as active.? Restart Gemini-2 and upon entry into the Flip Panel the buttons read "Deactivate ...", the correct status.
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Doug
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Re: Instructions on L6 user defined tracking

 

Thanks Paul! That's what I was looking?for.?

Steve

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 4:52 PM Paul Kanevsky via <yh=[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 04:28 PM, Steve Walsh wrote:
I am hoping to set up to image Comet C/2023 A3.
Use the Gemini.NET ASCOM driver Small and Solar System Objects function: /g/Gemini-II/message/23238
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
Re: Instructions on L6 user defined tracking

 

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 04:28 PM, Steve Walsh wrote:
I am hoping to set up to image Comet C/2023 A3.
Use the Gemini.NET ASCOM driver Small and Solar System Objects function: /g/Gemini-II/message/23238
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
Re: Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 
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In addition to the HC 1.62 beta firmware, ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ suggests that you try the Gemini L6.03 beta firmware. This may be necessary to support the gearbox reversal feature, but also has some improvements in PEC precision and PEC drift removal.
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6.03 firmware is located in the same folder:
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Regards,
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Re: Instructions on L6 user defined tracking

 

Paul,

I am hoping to set up to image Comet C/2023 A3.

Thanks,

Steve


On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 4:19?PM Paul Kanevsky via <yh=[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 04:05 PM, Steve Walsh wrote:
Where can instructions on using the user defined tracking be found? I know that Brian V did a live presentation on this some time back before the final release of L6. I'd like to find this but I was hoping there was also something in writing.
Steve, what are you trying to track?
Re: Instructions on L6 user defined tracking

 

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 04:05 PM, Steve Walsh wrote:
Where can instructions on using the user defined tracking be found? I know that Brian V did a live presentation on this some time back before the final release of L6. I'd like to find this but I was hoping there was also something in writing.
Steve, what are you trying to track?
Instructions on L6 user defined tracking

 

Where can instructions on using the user defined tracking be found? I know that Brian V did a live presentation on this some time back before the final release of L6. I'd like to find this but I was hoping there was also something in writing.
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Thanks,
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Steve Walsh
Beta-test of new HC firmware v1.62

 
Edited

Folks,
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¸é±ð²Ô¨¦ provided a new (beta test) version of the Hand Controller firmware to use with L6.x:?
/g/Gemini-II/files/Gemini%20HC%201.62%20beta

This firmware adds some of the requested features:

- Show time to limit on the main screen, when time remaining is less than 1 hour
- Checkbox to invert the direction of gearboxes in Mount->Gearing (for McLennan gearboxes , for example)?
- New page added under Mount->Flip to enable/disable and to configure meridian flip points
?
gemhc.bin file in the zip needs to be uploaded to Gemini HCFirmware folder on the SD card. You can do that through the Gemini web pages SD Card menu, or through GFU Advanced tab (drop the whole zip file in the HC section).

Remember to restart Gemini after updating this file. The HC will show uploading.... message for a little bit. When completed, the HC firmware version should show this:
?
Please report any issues/observations/more suggestions here.
?
Regards,
?
? ?-Paul
Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

Okay Paul, thank you very much :)
Jacq

On Sun, 29 Sept 2024 at 22:07, Paul Kanevsky via <yh=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 09:03 AM, Jacq Jansen wrote:
Hi,
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Can I use those flip point by installing software Level 6 without doing anything to the mount/servomotors?
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Or is installing a Level 6 software in that case useless or maybe even wrong??
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Flip points are part of Level 6 firmware update and don't require servo firmware update to work.? L6 release also included PIC servo controllers firmware update to increase encoder resolution. You don't need to do anything to the mount, or to replace your existing motors, you just need to update PIC controllers to the new firmware, V3. You can update just the L6 firmware, without updating PIC controllers. It will work but most of the testing and fine-tuning for this release was done with both updates used together.
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To get the most from L6, I'd recommend that you also update PIC firmware to V3. You could use it with just L6, leaving PIC firmware at V1, and it should work, but you will be using a combination that isn't well-tested.
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Regards,
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Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 09:03 AM, Jacq Jansen wrote:
Hi,
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Can I use those flip point by installing software Level 6 without doing anything to the mount/servomotors?
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Or is installing a Level 6 software in that case useless or maybe even wrong??
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Flip points are part of Level 6 firmware update and don't require servo firmware update to work.? L6 release also included PIC servo controllers firmware update to increase encoder resolution. You don't need to do anything to the mount, or to replace your existing motors, you just need to update PIC controllers to the new firmware, V3. You can update just the L6 firmware, without updating PIC controllers. It will work but most of the testing and fine-tuning for this release was done with both updates used together.
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To get the most from L6, I'd recommend that you also update PIC firmware to V3. You could use it with just L6, leaving PIC firmware at V1, and it should work, but you will be using a combination that isn't well-tested.
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

Hi,

Can I use those flip point by installing software Level 6 without doing anything to the mount/servomotors?

Or is installing a Level 6 software in that case useless or maybe even wrong??

Thanks in advance,

Jacq?

JANSEN FISCAAL

BELASTINGADVISEURS

?

Mr. J.A.G. Jansen

?

Van Bylandtstraat 42

5046 MC? Tilburg

Telefoon: (06)51250503 (beste optie: whatsapp)

E-mail: jansenfiscaal@...

?

Rabobank NL60 RABO 0191 2263 27

OB-nummer NL 809752050B01

Beconnummer 644456



Op zo 29 sep. 2024 om 05:52 schreef Paul Kanevsky via <yh=[email protected]>

Not my call, I¡¯m just sharing my opinion. The flip points were introduced to help with automated, and usually remote, meridian flips. It makes sense to me that they should be available remotely, but everyone is different.

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 05:28 PM, WayBack wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 04:23 PM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:
designed for automated use
Please forgive the observation but that looks like a basic user panel.? That option if selected it changes the behavior of the mount.? If it had been programed in ASCOM, as I'm sure it could have been, then yes it would be an automated function of ASCOM.? But programed in Gemini-2 means the HC deals with this too.? As the user should be aware wherever they stand, remote or local, I made the suggestion to echo the state to the HC.
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It immediately pops to mind, does it show if we save the state to the SD Card to retrieve the text by FTP?? (see: so many questions, sorry)
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Thanks
Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

Paul, as usual thanks for clearing that up.
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I figured it out by sitting next to the mount, changing the settings and doing goto's etc., and observed the behavior. I now have mine set, can't remember the settings, I'd have to power up the Gemini, but I can track 30 minutes past the meridian and if the object is within about 20 minutes, approaching, the meridian my G11 will slew pier side east on a goto.? I'm glad it worked out like that so objects that close to meridian don't require a flip 20 minutes later. I have no issues starting out from that point, the mount tracks just as good there as anywhere else.
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Also, I use N.I.N.A., and it will flip 5 minutes past the meridian so, there's never a chance of reaching the west limit anyway, if I started out pier side west.
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I'll boot it up later if I can and post my settings.
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Darryl
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Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

Not my call, I¡¯m just sharing my opinion. The flip points were introduced to help with automated, and usually remote, meridian flips. It makes sense to me that they should be available remotely, but everyone is different.

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 05:28 PM, WayBack wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 04:23 PM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:
designed for automated use
Please forgive the observation but that looks like a basic user panel.? That option if selected it changes the behavior of the mount.? If it had been programed in ASCOM, as I'm sure it could have been, then yes it would be an automated function of ASCOM.? But programed in Gemini-2 means the HC deals with this too.? As the user should be aware wherever they stand, remote or local, I made the suggestion to echo the state to the HC.
?
It immediately pops to mind, does it show if we save the state to the SD Card to retrieve the text by FTP?? (see: so many questions, sorry)
?
Thanks
Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 04:23 PM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:
designed for automated use
Please forgive the observation but that looks like a basic user panel.? That option if selected it changes the behavior of the mount.? If it had been programed in ASCOM, as I'm sure it could have been, then yes it would be an automated function of ASCOM.? But programed in Gemini-2 means the HC deals with this too.? As the user should be aware wherever they stand, remote or local, I made the suggestion to echo the state to the HC.
?
It immediately pops to mind, does it show if we save the state to the SD Card to retrieve the text by FTP?? (see: so many questions, sorry)
?
Thanks
Re: Can't figure out meridian flip with G11G and AsiAIR.

 

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 03:39 PM, WayBack wrote:
Thank you very much. It's quite interesting; incidentally, there should be a guideline for the HC to use it broadly.?
Since it's designed for automated use, serial commands are probably sufficient. ASCOM driver provides the way to set these since L6 release. Similar settings could be added to INDI driver and other software:
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