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Book Sale?????


David Reese
 

Hi Mike,
Sure you are not trying to sell your wife's book here. You say you are
not trying to be negative but looks to me that is what you are doing.
I do not buy my flax oil from Barleans but do have their order form. I
think they are the one that had Dr. Budwig's two books translated into
English and they do sell them. The Flax oil as a True Aid... list for
the grand sum of $1.95. If they went to the expense of getting the books
published and translated why would they be nuts enough to mention the
competition.
I think most of the people on this list have cancer or health problems
and some of us have had cancer and used the flax oil longer than others
with at least some good results.
After 18 months on Gerson therapy I started cheating on the diet too
much. While on Gerson the psa was under control and dropping but my self
discipline went to hell and I started doing everything you are not
supposed to do to be successful on Gerson. Gerson started you off among
many other things with 2 tbl of flax oil and one cup of cc or yogurt a
day and very shortly dropped the oil down to 1 tbl per day.
When I quit Gerson I realized real quick I needed somethng to bring the
psa back down or slow it down so went up to between 4 to 8 tbl a day and
it did bring the psa back down. Can't expect flax to do it all by itself
though.
I am more than satisfied with what flax oil can do and I don't want to
wait for the "scientific study", that will probably never be tried with
the cc or yogurt.
I did not avail myself of conventional therapy of any kind except for
the original biopsy and get a blood test every month. Over 5 1/2 yr now.
Do I believe everything Budwig says. Nope. I do know that flax oil helps
people with health problems from a little to a lot.
Thats the longest email in a year so guess that will last me another
year.
Dave Reese
ps. I buy my flax oil from Omega Nutrition and at a lower cost. They are
slower in getting the shipment to you than Barleans but after dealing
with them for 5 1/2 years I can live with that.

mike martin wrote:

Cliff :


Wasn't trying to be negative, just something about those things was
bothering me. You know how I feel regarding the things Dr. Budwig and
other like yourself are finding. It just seems weird to me that
Barleans doesnt even have her book listed there. And I certainly never
saw any kind of commercial endorsements of products in any of the
scientific material I read. What about Spectrum? they make a good
oil.....why where they not mentioned. In Janes book we mention
individuals who make products but we listed all the individuals making
products equally not just one, exclussively. I wonder how many people
would believe my wifes book, if at the end she said something like
Dietitian Jane recomends Natural Ovens for flax products along with an
800 order line and failed to mention the other 14 places they could
get quality flax products. Dr. Budwig should not have engaged in that
kind of practic - it cheapens her message. If I where reading her work
for the first time and didnt have benefit to other information we
discussed, there is no way I could take her seriously.

I just felt compelled to mention them, thats all.

Respectfully
Mike Martin

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David Reese
 

Hi Mike,
I do agree with you that I wish she had more documentation.I don't think
she cares too much what the so called experts think. Don't forget, she
didn't go looking for Barlean's. They looked her up.
I also think though in many cases if people wait for scientific
evaluation of a lot of cures they will be long dead before it happens.
David Reese

David Reese wrote:


Hi Mike,
Sure you are not trying to sell your wife's book here. You say you are
not trying to be negative but looks to me that is what you are doing.
I do not buy my flax oil from Barleans but do have their order form. I
think they are the one that had Dr. Budwig's two books translated into
English and they do sell them. The Flax oil as a True Aid... list for
the grand sum of $1.95. If they went to the expense of getting the books
published and translated why would they be nuts enough to mention the
competition.
I think most of the people on this list have cancer or health problems
and some of us have had cancer and used the flax oil longer than others
with at least some good results.
After 18 months on Gerson therapy I started cheating on the diet too
much. While on Gerson the psa was under control and dropping but my self
discipline went to hell and I started doing everything you are not
supposed to do to be successful on Gerson. Gerson started you off among
many other things with 2 tbl of flax oil and one cup of cc or yogurt a
day and very shortly dropped the oil down to 1 tbl per day.
When I quit Gerson I realized real quick I needed somethng to bring the
psa back down or slow it down so went up to between 4 to 8 tbl a day and
it did bring the psa back down. Can't expect flax to do it all by itself
though.
I am more than satisfied with what flax oil can do and I don't want to
wait for the "scientific study", that will probably never be tried with
the cc or yogurt.
I did not avail myself of conventional therapy of any kind except for
the original biopsy and get a blood test every month. Over 5 1/2 yr now.
Do I believe everything Budwig says. Nope. I do know that flax oil helps
people with health problems from a little to a lot.
Thats the longest email in a year so guess that will last me another
year.
Dave Reese
ps. I buy my flax oil from Omega Nutrition and at a lower cost. They are
slower in getting the shipment to you than Barleans but after dealing
with them for 5 1/2 years I can live with that.

mike martin wrote:

Cliff :


Wasn't trying to be negative, just something about those things was
bothering me. You know how I feel regarding the things Dr. Budwig and
other like yourself are finding. It just seems weird to me that
Barleans doesnt even have her book listed there. And I certainly never
saw any kind of commercial endorsements of products in any of the
scientific material I read. What about Spectrum? they make a good
oil.....why where they not mentioned. In Janes book we mention
individuals who make products but we listed all the individuals making
products equally not just one, exclussively. I wonder how many people
would believe my wifes book, if at the end she said something like
Dietitian Jane recomends Natural Ovens for flax products along with an
800 order line and failed to mention the other 14 places they could
get quality flax products. Dr. Budwig should not have engaged in that
kind of practic - it cheapens her message. If I where reading her work
for the first time and didnt have benefit to other information we
discussed, there is no way I could take her seriously.

I just felt compelled to mention them, thats all.

Respectfully
Mike Martin

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David Reese
 

Hi NHY,
Yep, thats what I get. Never did get the high lignan.
Do grind some flax seeds though every now and then to put on the millet,
etc.
Dave Reese


 

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David says: "ps. I buy my flax oil from Omega Nutrition and at a lower cost."
?
Hi David,
?
I get my flaxseed oil from several places including Omega.? The only problem I find with Omega is that I can't get the cheaper "cancer" price with the high lignan oil, only the plain variety, so I alternate sources for my oil.? Usually buy a case at a time from Omega, smaller quantities elsewhere.
?
Do you stay with the plain oil?
?
NHY

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Book Sale?????

Hi Mike,
Sure you are not trying to sell your wife's book here. You say you are
not trying to be negative but looks to me that is what you are doing.
I do not buy my flax oil from Barleans but do have their order form. I
think they are the one that had Dr. Budwig's two books translated into
English and they do sell them. The Flax oil as a True Aid... list for
the grand sum of $1.95. If they went to the expense of getting the books
published and translated why would they be nuts enough to mention the
competition.
I think most of the people on this list have cancer or health problems
and some of us have had cancer and used the flax oil longer than others
with at least some good results.
After 18 months on Gerson therapy I started cheating on the diet too
much. While on Gerson the psa was under control and dropping but my self
discipline went to hell and I started doing everything you are not
supposed to do to be successful on Gerson. Gerson started you off among
many other things with 2 tbl of flax oil and one cup of cc or yogurt a
day and very shortly dropped the oil down to 1 tbl per day.
When I quit Gerson I realized real quick I needed somethng to bring the
psa back down or slow it down so went up to between 4 to 8 tbl a day and
it did bring the psa back down. Can't expect flax to do it all by itself
though.
I am more than satisfied with what flax oil can do and I don't want to
wait for the "scientific study", that will probably never be tried with
the cc or yogurt.
I did not avail myself of conventional therapy of any kind except for
the original biopsy and get a blood test every month. Over 5 1/2 yr now.
Do I believe everything Budwig says. Nope. I do know that flax oil helps
people with health problems from a little to a lot.
Thats the longest email in a year so guess that will last me another
year.
Dave Reese
ps. I buy my flax oil from Omega Nutrition and at a lower cost. They are
slower in getting the shipment to you than Barleans but after dealing
with them for 5 1/2 years I can live with that.?????????

> mike martin wrote:
>
> Cliff :
>
>
>?? Wasn't trying to be negative, just something about those things was
> bothering me. You know how I feel regarding the things Dr. Budwig and
> other like yourself are finding. It just seems weird to me that
> Barleans doesnt even have her book listed there. And I certainly never
> saw any kind of commercial endorsements of products in any of the
> scientific material I read. What about Spectrum? they make a good
> oil.....why where they not mentioned. In Janes book we mention
> individuals who make products but we listed all the individuals making
> products equally not just one, exclussively. I wonder how many people
> would believe my wifes book, if at the end she said something like
> Dietitian Jane recomends Natural Ovens for flax products along with an
> 800 order line and failed to mention the other 14 places they could
> get quality flax products. Dr. Budwig should not have engaged in that
> kind of practic - it cheapens her message. If I where reading her work
> for the first time and didnt have benefit to other information we
> discussed, there is no way I could take her seriously.
>
> I just felt compelled to mention them, thats all.
>
> Respectfully
> Mike Martin
>
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mike martin
 

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David Reese :
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Like I have said before, I think barleans is just fine when it comes to flax oil, Flax Oil is a great product. I also think Dr. Budwig has made a wonderful break through with her program. But it must be said that she hasn't brought it to the scientific community. You can not give a speech 41 years ago without any of the hard scientific data and expect to be taken seriously by the scientific community.?When you publisher puts right on the cover that you have been nominated for the noble prize, when the noble commission doesn't publish list of nominee's - you can not expect to be taken seriously. I submit that she has not taken the proper steps to even introduce this seriously to the science. She has all the facts, she has all the data - just put them out there. This treatment demands to be studied and looked at and millions of people should be benefiting from it. You guys should not have to be defending yourself and the results you have achieved. I have great hopes that the clinic in spain will submit this information to the people and that everyone afflictted with this dreaded desease have the same chance that you and many of the others have had.
?
When my wife created her book, she listed everyone and everything that had to do with flax. She listed the products they sell and how to get them. We did not recieve a dime from any of these people - including Barleans - who is also mentioned. To say that they would be crazy to list other manufacturers sounds more to me to be a gready exploitation of Dr. Budwigs work. Not to mention the fact that it diminshes scientific credability.
?
Respectfully
Mike Martin


Pat and Gail Muldowney
 

Dave, I'm sitting here with bone mets. Please mention the degree of your
illness so I can tell if your remarks are in my area of interest. I love
encouraging dialogue but need to know whether it pertains to me or not.
Thanks, Pat in Mexico

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Reese" <reesed11@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Book Sale?????


Hi Mike,
Sure you are not trying to sell your wife's book here. You say you are
not trying to be negative but looks to me that is what you are doing.
I do not buy my flax oil from Barleans but do have their order form. I
think they are the one that had Dr. Budwig's two books translated into
English and they do sell them. The Flax oil as a True Aid... list for
the grand sum of $1.95. If they went to the expense of getting the books
published and translated why would they be nuts enough to mention the
competition.
I think most of the people on this list have cancer or health problems
and some of us have had cancer and used the flax oil longer than others
with at least some good results.
After 18 months on Gerson therapy I started cheating on the diet too
much. While on Gerson the psa was under control and dropping but my self
discipline went to hell and I started doing everything you are not
supposed to do to be successful on Gerson. Gerson started you off among
many other things with 2 tbl of flax oil and one cup of cc or yogurt a
day and very shortly dropped the oil down to 1 tbl per day.
When I quit Gerson I realized real quick I needed somethng to bring the
psa back down or slow it down so went up to between 4 to 8 tbl a day and
it did bring the psa back down. Can't expect flax to do it all by itself
though.
I am more than satisfied with what flax oil can do and I don't want to
wait for the "scientific study", that will probably never be tried with
the cc or yogurt.
I did not avail myself of conventional therapy of any kind except for
the original biopsy and get a blood test every month. Over 5 1/2 yr now.
Do I believe everything Budwig says. Nope. I do know that flax oil helps
people with health problems from a little to a lot.
Thats the longest email in a year so guess that will last me another
year.
Dave Reese
ps. I buy my flax oil from Omega Nutrition and at a lower cost. They are
slower in getting the shipment to you than Barleans but after dealing
with them for 5 1/2 years I can live with that.

mike martin wrote:

Cliff :


Wasn't trying to be negative, just something about those things was
bothering me. You know how I feel regarding the things Dr. Budwig and
other like yourself are finding. It just seems weird to me that
Barleans doesnt even have her book listed there. And I certainly never
saw any kind of commercial endorsements of products in any of the
scientific material I read. What about Spectrum? they make a good
oil.....why where they not mentioned. In Janes book we mention
individuals who make products but we listed all the individuals making
products equally not just one, exclussively. I wonder how many people
would believe my wifes book, if at the end she said something like
Dietitian Jane recomends Natural Ovens for flax products along with an
800 order line and failed to mention the other 14 places they could
get quality flax products. Dr. Budwig should not have engaged in that
kind of practic - it cheapens her message. If I where reading her work
for the first time and didnt have benefit to other information we
discussed, there is no way I could take her seriously.

I just felt compelled to mention them, thats all.

Respectfully
Mike Martin

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