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Dominion lawyer lays out in painstaking detail why Fox News messed with the wrong company![]() Screengrab.
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I'm not a lawyer¡ªsimple country,?, or otherwise¡ªbut I have to think that knowingly spreading lies about the one thing a company does, thereby shredding that company's credibility in the eyes of millions of Americans, is kind of a big deal ... and might just get you in a wee bit of trouble. Like if I said I'd stayed at a Trump hotel (which I've never done, for the record) and claimed my black-light inspection revealed a veritable Jackson Pollock installation of unaccounted-for horrors ... and that the bedbugs emptied more blood from me than an gin-besotted phlebotomist could ever dream of ... and that the vegan mango salsa was just a bit on the tart side¡ªwell, I'd expect to receive a clammy yellow fuck-jumble of a letter from the large man himself. ?
In other words, you can't just say¡ªor promote¡ªany fool thing you want to, especially if you know it isn't true. Which is where Fox News comes in. On Friday,?, which comes on the heels of a similar suit??seeking a whopping $2.7 billion in damages. And, damn, it really looks like this thing might have legs. This morning, Dominion Votings Systems attorney Stephen Shackleford joined Brian Stelter on CNN's?Reliable Sources?to explain just how fucked Fox may be. It went a little something like this: ? ?
CNN 03 28 2021 11 18 02 SHACKLEFORD: "As you know, part of proving that a statement is defamatory is to prove that it was made either knowing the statements were false or with reckless disregard for the truth. You pointed out to your viewers that our complaint lays out in gory detail over days and days and weeks in November and December of last year, Fox kept spouting these lies about Dominion, these devastating lies about Dominion on their airwaves even while they were being told the truth over and over again. Damn, that doesn't sound good for Fox at all. Of course, complicating Fox's defense is the fact that the network snapped to attention after Smartmatic sent the network a letter demanding a retraction,??during shows hosted by three of Fox's smarmiest liars¡ªJeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo, and Lou Dobbs. (Dobbs has?.) Does anyone really think Fox didn't know what it was doing? After Fox called Arizona for Joe Biden on election night, it looked like its viewers were poised to abandon the network for loopier la la lands like OANN and Newsmax, so it needed to tighten its hold on the barmy Trumpbots it had nurtured over the previous four years. What better way to do that than suck up to Trump with renewed vigor? Ah, but now the sword of Damocles looms. The only question that remains is, will it take just a few fingers or lop off an entire limb? |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhat¡¯s amazing is that they never seemed to consider that any of them might be actually held accountable for these bogus claims, clearly unprovable, repeated ad nauseum. ?They¡¯re going after Trump too supposedly¡ oh, look how they run!Should be fun to watch. Sal? On Mar 30, 2021, at 8:39 AM, awb via <abater@...> wrote:
Dominion lawyer lays out in painstaking detail why Fox News messed with the wrong company![]() Screengrab.
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? I'm not a lawyer¡ªsimple country,?, or otherwise¡ªbut I have to think that knowingly spreading lies about the one thing a company does, thereby shredding that company's credibility in the eyes of millions of Americans, is kind of a big deal ... and might just get you in a wee bit of trouble. Like if I said I'd stayed at a Trump hotel (which I've never done, for the record) and claimed my black-light inspection revealed a veritable Jackson Pollock installation of unaccounted-for horrors ... and that the bedbugs emptied more blood from me than an gin-besotted phlebotomist could ever dream of ... and that the vegan mango salsa was just a bit on the tart side¡ªwell, I'd expect to receive a clammy yellow fuck-jumble of a letter from the large man himself. ? In other words, you can't just say¡ªor promote¡ªany fool thing you want to, especially if you know it isn't true. Which is where Fox News comes in. On Friday,?, which comes on the heels of a similar suit??seeking a whopping $2.7 billion in damages. And, damn, it really looks like this thing might have legs. This morning, Dominion Votings Systems attorney Stephen Shackleford joined Brian Stelter on CNN's?Reliable Sources?to explain just how fucked Fox may be. It went a little something like this: ?
? CNN 03 28 2021 11 18 02 SHACKLEFORD: "As you know, part of proving that a statement is defamatory is to prove that it was made either knowing the statements were false or with reckless disregard for the truth. You pointed out to your viewers that our complaint lays out in gory detail over days and days and weeks in November and December of last year, Fox kept spouting these lies about Dominion, these devastating lies about Dominion on their airwaves even while they were being told the truth over and over again. Damn, that doesn't sound good for Fox at all. Of course, complicating Fox's defense is the fact that the network snapped to attention after Smartmatic sent the network a letter demanding a retraction,??during shows hosted by three of Fox's smarmiest liars¡ªJeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo, and Lou Dobbs. (Dobbs has?.) Does anyone really think Fox didn't know what it was doing? After Fox called Arizona for Joe Biden on election night, it looked like its viewers were poised to abandon the network for loopier la la lands like OANN and Newsmax, so it needed to tighten its hold on the barmy Trumpbots it had nurtured over the previous four years. What better way to do that than suck up to Trump with renewed vigor? Ah, but now the sword of Damocles looms. The only question that remains is, will it take just a few fingers or lop off an entire limb? |
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 09:04 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
What¡¯s amazing is that they never seemed to consider that any of them might be actually held accountable for these bogus claims, clearly unprovable, repeated ad nauseum. ?They¡¯re going after Trump too supposedly¡ oh, look how they run!Exactly. I refuse to read about trump at all but I will watch his trial. |
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 09:04 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
What¡¯s amazing is that they never seemed to consider that any of them might be actually held accountable for these bogus claims, clearly unprovable, repeated ad nauseum. ?They¡¯re going after Trump too supposedly¡ oh, look how they run!And now there is this too. They will keep piling up. His entire miserable life will be full of litigation. (PS, I did not read it, just saw the headline.) |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI believe the former guy is in such a state of acute megalomania he still thinks he¡¯s untouchable. ?And probably nothing will convince him otherwise until they drag him out in handcuffs. If he doesn¡¯t run away first that is, which I actually don¡¯t think he¡¯s in a position to do for a lot of reasons. ?Not that it wouldn¡¯t be hugely entertaining to watch him try.Adderal and delusions can be a powerful cocktail it seems.? Sal On Mar 31, 2021, at 8:13 AM, awb via groups.io <abater@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 3/31/21 6:48 AM, WillyTex via
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 08:10 AM, awb wrote: It's been known as "The Trump Obsession" for quite some time.? The more they obsess about Trump the more they become like him. |
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:22 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
The more they obsess about Trump the more they become like him.This kind of sounds like a conspiracy theory. YMMV. No reasonable person would conclude her unfounded claims of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election were statements of fact. Go figure. |
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:04 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
What¡¯s amazing is that they never seemed to consider that any of them might be actually held accountable for these bogus claimsThis is going to be settled out of court and we'll probably never know what the actual settlement is. But, it looks like Dominion has bit off more that it can chew and now Dominion is getting bit in the ass. YMMV. MyPillow sued Dominion Voting Systems on April 19 for $1.6 billion, claiming that the election technology company illegally conflicted with the free speech rights of CEO Mike Lindell. Go figure. |