On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:40 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

I've been talking about a New Robin Hood Society for years.

"People know the truth and are fed up with the lies, the big money and elite corporations. It’s odd, there’s never any evidence shown for a plane in the Pentagon.” - Marjorie Taylor Green, (R-Ga.)

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Wrong. I work with logic all the time.? My awareness is infinite. You two are so presumptuous and paint with a 6 foot wide brush.? Ann just doesn't understand how things work in the entertainment medium which I've been involved in all my life.? And I wasn't saying that was the case but just a possibility.

What you perceive as negativity is what anyone would do finding you so naive and presumptuous.? Besides not all samskaras are a erased by enlightenment.

Enlightenment is easy.? Just be the light.

Om anandaya.

"Be the light."? Jesus said that.? So did Amanda Gorman.??

"My awareness is infinite." I find this statement to be presumptuous and naive on your part.? How in the world do you know this? The word "infinite" precludes your ability to know this.? Human beings are limited.? Do you think you know this because of your experience(s)? I argue simply that your experience and perception are influenced by your mind (and probably personality) always, even if only infinitesimally.? Even if your consciousness / awareness can travel across time and space, for example, with a certain sense of merging at times with universal energy (so to speak) or living in a state of oneness with all, your awareness remains limited. I think of "infinite awareness" as being a theoretical concept.? The word "infinite" is also well suited to poetry.? ?

Om anandaya.

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Em

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 12:51 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Yes, and still do.? But I also later on at the beginning of this century studied from a tantric samrat for 12 years.? That's the real deal.? And it was available to anyone who was interested.?

TM is "yoga lite" which is what I coined it years ago.? I go with the deeper traditions and even made a trek to India to understand things more.? I think the problem with many TM'ers is that they were so juiced up having metabolic syndrome that all they had was "lots of thoughts" (or "tots" as MMY would say) so it was a lite relaxation technique.?

Though metabolic syndrome is very common in society not everyone has it and those who don't seemed to have some good experiences.? OTOH, I think many long time meditators have the experience it but don't think it is the start of enlightenment because they're expecting something like an LSD experience which it is not.

BTW, I was both a TM teacher and TM Governor.? I moved on in the 1980s.

Finally!? This is the most coherent thing you've written in a long time.? Clearly you benefited from "yoga lite" and know your topic well.??
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 06:36 AM, awb wrote:

You're not understanding.? There are lots of things PR and managers for celebrities filter out or cover-up.

Listen, so how is a heart attack worse than three heart valve surgeries? What are you even saying here? Gawd, you are so condescending when others either don't agree with you or call you on your half-baked research and wild assertions. So, you think Arnold's PR people wanted to hide his heart attack and instead detail his three heart valve surgeries. This benefits everyone how exactly? Try a different one... this one stinks.

Logic doesn't seem to be B2's strong point.? I'm not sure how expanded his awareness is either.? Maybe he needs to offload some negativity.?

Wrong. I work with logic all the time.? My awareness is infinite. You two are so presumptuous and paint with a 6 foot wide brush.? Ann just doesn't understand how things work in the entertainment medium which I've been involved in all my life.? And I wasn't saying that was the case but just a possibility.

What you perceive as negativity is what anyone would do finding you so naive and presumptuous.? Besides not all samskaras are a erased by enlightenment.

Enlightenment is easy.? Just be the light.

Om anandaya.

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Em

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 06:40 AM, awb wrote:

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

That's the goal of this psychological operation to wear people down so they'll be completely controllable and subservient.? It's good when you just witness the thing and the event has as much influence as a "line on water".

Geezus!!? Psychological operation?? Witness what thing, pray tell.? Football games???

You and Willard both didn't even read the article!!?

"The study, funded by the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the US military, was designed to improve care for??and??who suffered concussions. A total of 2,039 military service academy cadets and 18,548 student athletes were surveyed."

Thing is Em, you don't know what "witness the thing" and "line on water" means in the context of FFL.

LOL.? Ahhh.....yes I do.? What, you think I learned nothing during FFL's heyday?? I was immensely curious and did quite a bit of reading.?

First, your point is completely irrelevant because you commented on an article that you didn't read!? Unless you are able to tie the words "psychological operation" to a study of athletes who have suffered concussion, you're DOA and therefore, your TM speak comments are also irrelevant.? If you do tie it, you're also DOA (I'll let you figure out why.)

Now, I also must inform you that the concepts put forth by TM are by no means exclusive to TM.? They have existed for thousands of years.? For example, "line? on water" is also included within the Buddhist tradition.? In terms of my knowledge and understanding of it, I have it, although obviously not as placed within the TM context.? It's pretty simple. Here is David Lynch defining it:?



I have not had the witnessing experience as described by TM meditators. (I remember asking Xeno to explain it to me many years ago. Or, actually, it might have been "waking state" during sleep.) I agree that *how one thinks* of such an experience had, and how one incorporates it, is guided by language and concepts contained in the TM program, if that is the process one uses to expand one's consciousness.? It bars logic, however, that this experience is exclusive to TM.? This blog post about witnessing during sleep is interesting.? Not everyone who does TM has this experience, just fyi.? Did you???

Yes, and still do.? But I also later on at the beginning of this century studied from a tantric samrat for 12 years.? That's the real deal.? And it was available to anyone who was interested.?

TM is "yoga lite" which is what I coined it years ago.? I go with the deeper traditions and even made a trek to India to understand things more.? I think the problem with many TM'ers is that they were so juiced up having metabolic syndrome that all they had was "lots of thoughts" (or "tots" as MMY would say) so it was a lite relaxation technique.?

Though metabolic syndrome is very common in society not everyone has it and those who don't seemed to have some good experiences.? OTOH, I think many long time meditators have the experience it but don't think it is the start of enlightenment because they're expecting something like an LSD experience which it is not.

BTW, I was both a TM teacher and TM Governor.? I moved on in the 1980s.

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Em

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 06:36 AM, awb wrote:

You're not understanding.? There are lots of things PR and managers for celebrities filter out or cover-up.

Listen, so how is a heart attack worse than three heart valve surgeries? What are you even saying here? Gawd, you are so condescending when others either don't agree with you or call you on your half-baked research and wild assertions. So, you think Arnold's PR people wanted to hide his heart attack and instead detail his three heart valve surgeries. This benefits everyone how exactly? Try a different one... this one stinks.

Logic doesn't seem to be B2's strong point.? I'm not sure how expanded his awareness is either.? Maybe he needs to offload some negativity.??
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Em

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 06:40 AM, awb wrote:

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

That's the goal of this psychological operation to wear people down so they'll be completely controllable and subservient.? It's good when you just witness the thing and the event has as much influence as a "line on water".

Geezus!!? Psychological operation?? Witness what thing, pray tell.? Football games???

You and Willard both didn't even read the article!!?

"The study, funded by the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the US military, was designed to improve care for??and??who suffered concussions. A total of 2,039 military service academy cadets and 18,548 student athletes were surveyed."

Thing is Em, you don't know what "witness the thing" and "line on water" means in the context of FFL.

LOL.? Ahhh.....yes I do.? What, you think I learned nothing during FFL's heyday?? I was immensely curious and did quite a bit of reading.?

First, your point is completely irrelevant because you commented on an article that you didn't read!? Unless you are able to tie the words "psychological operation" to a study of athletes who have suffered concussion, you're DOA and therefore, your TM speak comments are also irrelevant.? If you do tie it, you're also DOA (I'll let you figure out why.)

Now, I also must inform you that the concepts put forth by TM are by no means exclusive to TM.? They have existed for thousands of years.? For example, "line? on water" is also included within the Buddhist tradition.? In terms of my knowledge and understanding of it, I have it, although obviously not as placed within the TM context.? It's pretty simple. Here is David Lynch defining it:?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10160126536230045

I have not had the witnessing experience as described by TM meditators. (I remember asking Xeno to explain it to me many years ago. Or, actually, it might have been "waking state" during sleep.) I agree that *how one thinks* of such an experience had, and how one incorporates it, is guided by language and concepts contained in the TM program, if that is the process one uses to expand one's consciousness.? It bars logic, however, that this experience is exclusive to TM.? This blog post about witnessing during sleep is interesting.? Not everyone who does TM has this experience, just fyi.? Did you???

http://patriciabralley.blogspot.com/2006/07/witnessing-during-sleep.html


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Em

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 07:14 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

On 2/1/21 7:02 PM, Emily Mae via groups.io wrote:

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 06:26 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

That's the goal of this psychological operation to wear people down so they'll be completely controllable and subservient.? It's good when you just witness the thing and the event has as much influence as a "line on water".

Geezus!!? Psychological operation?? Witness what thing, pray tell.? Football games???

You and Willard both didn't even read the article!!?

"The study, funded by the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the US military, was designed to improve care for??and??who suffered concussions. A total of 2,039 military service academy cadets and 18,548 student athletes were surveyed."

Thing is Em, you don't know what "witness the thing" and "line on water" means in the context of FFL.

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Here we go again with the condescension. B2, give it up.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 06:47 PM, Emily Mae wrote:

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 01:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

But this is why I wondered why Emily would want to hang out in a group populated by crazy meditators and bun bouncers.

There are a total of 5 people here who currently post.? Are you a crazy meditator or a bun bouncer??

I've recounted multiple times how I arrived at FFL.? And, turns out there was quite a lot being posted, conversations being had, and a variety of other goings on that I found quite fascinating, albeit foreign to me, I admit.?

I hate to tell you but I never put any of you TM folks on a pedestal and never thought you were special or "enlightened" in some TM way that bested the potential for other eastern traditions. And, it was clear that seeking "enlightenment" did not appear to exempt one from the normal trials, tribulations, joys and main events of life.? I looked at everyone on FFL as a human being.? No one graduates while here on planet earth.? It seemed a few were a bit too attached to their ego and their specialness.??
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Em

Hahaha, trust me, TM'ers ain't got nothin' on the rest of the lunatics that inhabit the planet earth. They just spent more time with their eyes closed.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 03:15 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

On 2/1/21 2:19 PM, awb via groups.io wrote:

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 09:35 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Hoo boy. That all you got, "I know you are but what am I?" What meme are we talking about here? Arnold and his heart attack that never happened or what you and Emily are talking about - none of which appear to be memes. Maybe you need to figure out what a meme is and report back because so far your reply is about as relevant as me stating "Tacos and doughnuts are both things we might eat or throw out the window." I have no idea "what my rebuttal does". Does it prove doughnuts are food or that Schwarzenegger eats them occasionally?

Actually given celebrities, their managers and PR people, we don't know for sure what prompted Arnuld to deal with his heart problem.? He may have had a minor heart attack but then that might have effected his work so it's not mentioned.

Ok, I'll do the lifting for you. Your conjecture is just that, conjecture.

You're not understanding.? There are lots of things PR and managers for celebrities filter out or cover-up.

Listen, so how is a heart attack worse than three heart valve surgeries? What are you even saying here? Gawd, you are so condescending when others either don't agree with you or call you on your half-baked research and wild assertions. So, you think Arnold's PR people wanted to hide his heart attack and instead detail his three heart valve surgeries. This benefits everyone how exactly? Try a different one... this one stinks.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 03:11 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

This is probably the smallest audience I have others are in the thousands and NO ONE COMPLAINS about a typo.? Maybe you should virtually get out more. ;-)

A legend in your own mind. BTW, it isn't the typos, it's the scrambled egg nature of you sentences not to mention the "content".

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On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 06:26 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

That's the goal of this psychological operation to wear people down so they'll be completely controllable and subservient.? It's good when you just witness the thing and the event has as much influence as a "line on water".

Geezus!!? Psychological operation?? Witness what thing, pray tell.? Football games???

You and Willard both didn't even read the article!!?

"The study, funded by the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the US military, was designed to improve care for??and??who suffered concussions. A total of 2,039 military service academy cadets and 18,548 student athletes were surveyed."

Thing is Em, you don't know what "witness the thing" and "line on water" means in the context of FFL.

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Em

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 06:26 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

That's the goal of this psychological operation to wear people down so they'll be completely controllable and subservient.? It's good when you just witness the thing and the event has as much influence as a "line on water".

Geezus!!? Psychological operation?? Witness what thing, pray tell.? Football games???

You and Willard both didn't even read the article!!?

"The study, funded by the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the US military, was designed to improve care for??and??who suffered concussions. A total of 2,039 military service academy cadets and 18,548 student athletes were surveyed."
?
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Em

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 01:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

But this is why I wondered why Emily would want to hang out in a group populated by crazy meditators and bun bouncers.

There are a total of 5 people here who currently post.? Are you a crazy meditator or a bun bouncer??

I've recounted multiple times how I arrived at FFL.? And, turns out there was quite a lot being posted, conversations being had, and a variety of other goings on that I found quite fascinating, albeit foreign to me, I admit.?

I hate to tell you but I never put any of you TM folks on a pedestal and never thought you were special or "enlightened" in some TM way that bested the potential for other eastern traditions. And, it was clear that seeking "enlightenment" did not appear to exempt one from the normal trials, tribulations, joys and main events of life.? I looked at everyone on FFL as a human being.? No one graduates while here on planet earth.? It seemed a few were a bit too attached to their ego and their specialness.??
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Em

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:38 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

She probably thinks she has mastered "the cities"

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

That's the goal of this psychological operation to wear people down so they'll be completely controllable and subservient.? It's good when you just witness the thing and the event has as much influence as a "line on water".

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 03:15 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Ok, I'll do the lifting for you. Your conjecture is just that, conjecture.

You're not understanding.? There are lots of things PR and managers for celebrities filter out or cover-up.

Ummmm, look up the word "conjecture."??
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Em

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:38 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

She probably thinks she has mastered "the cities"

Never has there been a better time in history than now to practice the yoga siddhis! YMMV.

"A third of adults walking around in concussion-like daze due to stress, lack of sleep."

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On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 09:35 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Hoo boy. That all you got, "I know you are but what am I?" What meme are we talking about here? Arnold and his heart attack that never happened or what you and Emily are talking about - none of which appear to be memes. Maybe you need to figure out what a meme is and report back because so far your reply is about as relevant as me stating "Tacos and doughnuts are both things we might eat or throw out the window." I have no idea "what my rebuttal does". Does it prove doughnuts are food or that Schwarzenegger eats them occasionally?

Actually given celebrities, their managers and PR people, we don't know for sure what prompted Arnuld to deal with his heart problem.? He may have had a minor heart attack but then that might have effected his work so it's not mentioned.

Ok, I'll do the lifting for you. Your conjecture is just that, conjecture.

You're not understanding.? There are lots of things PR and managers for celebrities filter out or cover-up.

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? Face it, this is the biggest audience you or I are ever going to get so let's at least watch the spelling and the grammar so that the what you write can be deciphered.

This is probably the smallest audience I have others are in the thousands and NO ONE COMPLAINS about a typo.? Maybe you should virtually get out more. ;-)

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 09:35 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

Hoo boy. That all you got, "I know you are but what am I?" What meme are we talking about here? Arnold and his heart attack that never happened or what you and Emily are talking about - none of which appear to be memes. Maybe you need to figure out what a meme is and report back because so far your reply is about as relevant as me stating "Tacos and doughnuts are both things we might eat or throw out the window." I have no idea "what my rebuttal does". Does it prove doughnuts are food or that Schwarzenegger eats them occasionally?

Actually given celebrities, their managers and PR people we don't know for sure what prompted Arnuld to deal with his heart problem.? He may have had a minor heart attack but then that might have effected his work so it's not mentioned.

Ok, I'll do the lifting for you. Your conjecture is just that, conjecture.