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Oh, Canada

 

Okay, so we have a shit show in the US. It's all one big drama after another with Governors fighting with POTUS and health and safety equipment levels lacking and sickness ramping up everywhere. Why is the US in such dire shape and Canada is simply quietly dealing with the situation with a capable PM at the helm? Who the hell knows but on one side you have fucking mayhem and on the Northern side of the border you have polite, well-behaved citizens staying at home, posting hearts on their windows while a multitude of companies ramp up the production of PPE and ventilators. I mean, what the hell is going on??

Coronavirus: Canadian companies now manufacturing ventilators, surgical masks

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?WATCH: Trudeau gives an update to the made-in-Canada response to the COVID-19 crisis.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced that companies across the country are now producing medical supplies, including hundreds of ventilators, as part of Canada¡¯s battle to increase desperately needed equipment in the?.

Since the federal government announced its strategy to tap into the private sector to produce medical supplies, Trudeau said close to 3,000 Canadian companies have reached out to offer their expertise and capacity to meet the country¡¯s need for personal protective equipment (PPE).

¡°We are seeing the best of what it means to be Canadian,¡± Trudeau told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday. ¡°In tough times, we pull together. We are there for each other. We put our hands and ask: ¡®How can I help?¡¯¡±

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The federal government has signed three contracts with companies since March 20 to produce equipment like masks and rapid tests for the new coronavirus as part of the government¡¯s $2-billion effort to buy PPE.

Thornhill Medical, based in the Greater Toronto Area, is making 500 ventilators that will arrive at hospitals and health-care facilities in early April.

Coronavirus outbreak: Trudeau asked if he¡¯s working with Trump on ¡®North American¡¯ PPE strategy
?Coronavirus outbreak: Trudeau asked if he¡¯s working with Trump on ¡®North American¡¯ PPE strategy

Meanwhile, Spartan Bioscience Inc. of Ottawa, which makes portable testing kits that can produce results for in 30 minutes, has signed a $78-million order with Ottawa to provide 100 of the machines and one million test kits in the next month alone.

Canada now has 7,727 confirmed and presumptive cases of COVID-19, with 92 deaths, as of 11 a.m. ET on Tuesday.

Trudeau also said he had signed a contract with Quebec-based AMD Medicom Inc. to open a domestic manufacturing facility to make N95 protective masks and surgical masks in vast quantities for the Canadian market.

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¡°The entire world is trying to get its hands on the various equipment needed to fight this virus,¡± Trudeau said. ¡°That¡¯s why we know it¡¯ll be important to be able to have made-in-Canada solutions ¡­ it has been a truly amazing and inspiring story to see how many factories and suppliers are stepping up.¡±

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Ottawa has also signed letters of intent with five companies ¡ª Precision Biomonitoring, Fluid Energy Group Ltd., Irving Oil, Calko Group and Stanfield¡¯s ¡ª to produce additional test kits, hand sanitizer and protective apparel including masks and gowns.

Trudeau also thanked companies for their donations of PPE and sanitizing supplies to health-care workers in Canada, naming Magna International, General Motors of Canada Company, Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, Ford Motor Company of Canada Ltd., Linamar Corp., Shell Canada Ltd., Suncor Energy, Alibaba Group and Home Depot that have helped the country¡¯s health-care professionals by donating personal protective? equipment and sanitizing supplies.

Some hospitals are locking up PPE which nurses need: Silas
?Some hospitals are locking up PPE which nurses need: Silas

News of an increase in medical supplies comes as front-line health-care workers have sounded the alarm over potential shortages of PPE.

In Ontario, Premier Doug Ford said Monday that province would be ¡°severely challenged¡± if there is a major spike in COVID-19 cases.

¡°It will take time for local production to ramp up and for new supplies to reach us,¡± Ford said.

¡°The reality is if there¡¯s a massive surge of people coming into our hospitals in the next two weeks, our supply lines will be seriously challenged.¡±

Doris Grinspun, CEO of the Registered Nurses¡¯ Association of Ontario (RNAO), welcomed Tuesday¡¯s announcement but said the delivery of the protective equipment needs to be fast-tracked into the hands of nurses and doctors ¡°right now.¡±

¡°We are seeing nine million surgical masks being used in a week,¡± she said. ¡°The problem is we aren¡¯t going through enough of them. Because [health-care workers] don¡¯t have them and they are getting sick.¡±

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Grinspun said that both Trudeau and Ford need to begin preparing for the ¡°worst-case scenario¡± where hospitals and long-term care homes experience a spike in COVID-19 cases.

¡°If we don¡¯t change the channel to prepare for a worst-case scenario ¡­ the delivery dates of the PPE will not match the scaling up of the PPE that is required,¡± she said, noting that France has ordered one billion face masks. ¡°We need to fast-forward the delivery times.¡±

Public Services and Procurement Minister Anita Anand said the government has ordered over has ordered 1,570 ventilators from companies in Canada, Europe, the U.S. and overseas, and are looking to secure an additional 4,000 or more if needed. Ventilators are crucial pieces of medical equipment, which help patients breathe, as serious COVID-19 cases can attack the lungs.

Anand said?the government has also ordered?60 million N95 masks ¡ª?which help filter out tiny, aerosolized particles that carry the virus ¡ª saying they are expected to arrive this week.

¡°This is all hands on deck,¡± she said Tuesday. ¡°We are working 24-7, and this country has never seen procurement like it is occurring right now.

¡°Our government is leaving no stone unturned.¡±

Trudeau said he¡¯s ¡°hopeful¡± the equipment will be available in the ¡°coming weeks.¡± Asked how the equipment will be allocated, the prime minister said he was in close contact with the provinces.

¡°We don¡¯t decide around the cabinet table. It is not politicians who decide how resources are allocated. We rely on experts, on medical officials, on co-ordination between medical officials in different provinces,¡± Trudeau said. ¡°We follow the direct advice of medical experts.¡±

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Re: Staying At Home

WillyTex
 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 01:06 PM, WillyTex wrote:
What was I thinking?
So, I was thinking a Honda Accord would make a good bug-out vehicle, just in case you had to bug out.. YMMV.
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"The force said the "vast majority" of people have been heeding Government orders to ¡°stay at home,¡± however this man was one of the exceptions."
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Motorist pulled over by police during coronavirus lockdown argues journey 'was essential to buy weed'
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Re: Numbers

WillyTex
 

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:03 PM, Emily Mae wrote:
As the new coronavirus marches around the globe
According to what I've read, Canada's numbers are dramatically lower than US numbers, even when corrected for population size: "(USA = 8.6 x Canada). 95 deaths versus 3606 corrected for population would be 817 versus 3606." That makes Canada's death rate less than a quarter of the USA's (22.7%, right?
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What!? The US has very long borders with both Canada and Mexico with high numbers of daily crossings. Go figure.
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Read on the internet:
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"It occurs to me that warm dry Mexico where people gather in sunshine when they gather in large numbers, and cool damp New York City where hot dogs and kebabs are available on every corner, are wildly different environments.? Even comparing California to Mexico may be iffy, but probably not as iffy.? But still, climate-wise, Canada is very similar to the northern US. This difference between US numbers and the numbers of its neighbours will get illuminated someday."
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Yes, it will be very interesting to read about. YMMV.


Re: Ask Dr. Bhairitu

WillyTex
 

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:26 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
I've been keeping an eye on this group but I also have other groups and forums I'm on much larger than the funny farm ones. ;-)
Joined my first news forum in 1995 back when DejaNews was popular - two guys in Austin writing a GUI news-reader program for bulletin boards. A good news-reader is Thunderbird. YMMV.
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Feel free to join - the only price to pay is your mind. Go figure.
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My favorites, not in any particular order:
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alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
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alt.dreams.casteneda
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alt.yoga
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alt.meditation
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sci.sceptic
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alt.philosophy.zen


Trailer House Living

WillyTex
 

"It¡¯s better to be practical than to be fancy. Going back to the basics creates time for more living."
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Woman¡¯s Low Cost Living in a Renovated Camper Trailer
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Re: Shut Down News Roundup

WillyTex
 

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:04 PM, Emily Mae wrote:
Have you read about the idea of testing for antibodies?? Enough of us with those and lo and behold, herd immunity is achieved.?
Everyone needs to be tested so that those that have the virus can be quarantined until they get better. Testing would allow those that are immune or recovered to return to work. Testing needs to be cheap and with quick results, such as the Bodysphere 2-minute COVID-19 test. YMMV.

"Herd immunity is an epidemiological concept that describes the state where a population ¨C usually of people ¨C is sufficiently immune to a disease that the infection will not spread within that group."
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Here¡¯s Why Herd Immunity Won¡¯t Save Us From The COVID-19 Pandemic.
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Re: Staying At Home

WillyTex
 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 01:11 PM, WillyTex wrote:
We've arrived at the Southern Plans - Marfa - by car in five hours
Should have bought this rig from Iron Planet. What was I thinking?

The Beast: 1998 BAE M1079 2 1/2 Ton LMTV 4x4 Camper Truck
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- 5,022 Miles
- Cat 3116 with 225 horsepower the engine is the non-electronic, highly dependable
- Allison 7-speed automatic.
- 395/85R20 Michelin Super Singles 85% Or Better
- 90% Tread Full size spare
- Interior Is In Excellent Condition for the age of the vehicle
- Zero Leaks
- Dual Voltage 12V & 24V Alternator
- AIR RIDE CAB
- 2 TRAILER PLUGS, ONE 24V AND THE OTHER 12V.
- We are able to add Air Conditioning To This Truck For an Added Cost!!!
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Re: Shot & Chaser

WillyTex
 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40 PM, WillyTex wrote:
FDA OKs Addition To Stockpile Of Malaria Drugs For COVID-19
FDA issues emergency use authorization for donated hydroxychloroquine sulfate, chloroquine phosphate
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Re: The Numbers

WillyTex
 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:23 PM, AB wrote:
This COVID-19 is ridiculously infectious and spreads like wildfire...
If you are going to post messages to this group, you are going to have to stop making sense. YMMV.


Re: Staying At Home

WillyTex
 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 02:31 PM, Emily Mae wrote:
go to Big Bend National Park.? It's free and social distancing will be no problem at all.??
¡°You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit: If one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son¡¯s girlfriend¡¯s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it¡¯s not. This is not a joke or hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.¡±
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Social Distancing: Hold the Line. ¡®This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices.¡¯?
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Re: The Numbers

WillyTex
 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:26 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
The California agency which tracks this uses death certificates issued to tally flu deaths.
Maybe it's time to check the numbers:?Texas, is the second most populous state, and it shows nothing like the death toll in New York. Texas - 47 deaths (3.5% of the total in the Empire State.)

"We truly are shutting down America and harming a great many Americans, based on the worst fears that have not been true and are not on the horizon. We are scaring the hell out of the citizenry. A few additional statistics help counsel a lowering of our national temperature: The vast majority of deaths from the virus are of people over the age of 70 with underlying frailties. The focus on New York where, of course, most of the media is based, is also flooding and distorting the picture for the rest of the country. Of course we need to pay attention to ground zero, which is New York. But what happens there is not what is happening everywhere. For example, our most populous state, California shows 149 deaths, 11% of the total in New York."?
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Time for a Second Opinion
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Re: The Numbers

 

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Bet you didn't look up the California numbers. TMMV.

On 3/31/20 10:17 AM, WillyTex via Groups.Io wrote:

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:26 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
I looked up deaths from flu for the 2018-2019? flu season which the CDC gives at roughly 34,000.
Too bad you didn't look up and read the topics posted here - I already posted a thread about the Numbers. Now you've gone all redundant on us. LoL!

More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. YMMV.


Re: The Numbers

 

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On 3/31/20 10:23 AM, AB via Groups.Io wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:26 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
So this morning they are touting US deaths from the coronavirus to be 3100.? Not being satisfied with just that bit of information I looked up deaths from flu for the 2018-2019? flu season which the CDC gives at roughly 34,000.? Yesterday I did same with the number of California deaths from coronavirus which was 118 and deaths from flu for the 2018-2019 flu season which was 438.? The California agency which tracks this uses death certificates issued to tally flu deaths.
Here is the thing, though. This COVID-19 is ridiculously infectious and spreads like wildfire because, apparently, no one had the antibodies to fight this virus very effectively. Hence, you have rampant infection rates that would go through the roof if steps were not taken to mitigate it - ie, social distancing and closing venues where groups of people are able to spew germs all over each other. Yes, other diseases kill more people every year as well as accidents but that is utterly moot. What is relevant is that unchecked, the virus could kill a few million Americans, at the rate we are going with some safety measures in place they are talking about perhaps a mere 100-200K people in the US dying. And that is a lot more than your stats on various flus this season.?

Not necessarily.? That's why people in my area are beginning to smell a rat.? And since they can smell they don't have the coronavirus.? This flu may be no more deadly than any other "flu" we've seen in past years.? We have had only 3 confirmed deaths from the virus in this county of over a million.? Confirmed that at least one of those was indeed elderly and at risk with prior conditions.? That happens every year.

Let's not become Orwellian over this.? Besides the whole world seems to be turning into a Funny Farm Lounge anyway. :-)


Shot & Chaser

WillyTex
 

Shot:
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Twitter Deletes Laura Ingraham¡¯s ¡®Misleading¡¯ Post Touting Coronavirus Cure
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Chaser:
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FDA OKs Addition To Stockpile Of Malaria Drugs For COVID-19
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Re: The Corner

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 07:19 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
I see that our moderator on 'The Corner' has now shut out the interlopers like Sal Sunshine, and some others. Democracy in action. There is the tyranny of authoritarianism, and the tyranny of the majority. There is a loss in any case. As it it, some people do not like other people. The tendency to cohere with those who think like you and shut out those who do not do is universal, in spite of attempts to democratise humanity and discourse. We are still very tribal, because we believe what we think is real.
Hey Xeno, I guess when you host a party you can invite whoever you want. Dissenting opinions are sometimes the most interesting ones, though, so cherry picking your "guests" can sometimes just prove to be more preaching to the choir. Still, Michael built the tree house so he can put up his "members only" sign if he wants which apparently only includes his buddies from FFL who share many of his viewpoints. Seems a bit too predictable that way but each to his own.?


Re: The Numbers

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:26 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
So this morning they are touting US deaths from the coronavirus to be 3100.? Not being satisfied with just that bit of information I looked up deaths from flu for the 2018-2019? flu season which the CDC gives at roughly 34,000.? Yesterday I did same with the number of California deaths from coronavirus which was 118 and deaths from flu for the 2018-2019 flu season which was 438.? The California agency which tracks this uses death certificates issued to tally flu deaths.
Here is the thing, though. This COVID-19 is ridiculously infectious and spreads like wildfire because, apparently, no one had the antibodies to fight this virus very effectively. Hence, you have rampant infection rates that would go through the roof if steps were not taken to mitigate it - ie, social distancing and closing venues where groups of people are able to spew germs all over each other. Yes, other diseases kill more people every year as well as accidents but that is utterly moot. What is relevant is that unchecked, the virus could kill a few million Americans, at the rate we are going with some safety measures in place they are talking about perhaps a mere 100-200K people in the US dying. And that is a lot more than your stats on various flus this season.?


Re: Staying At Home

WillyTex
 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 02:48 PM, Emily Mae wrote:
Everyone is out in the parks getting sunshine and not practicing social distancing.??
We saw some guys jogging in the park this morning, running five abreast. Three of them looked to be under twelve. Instead of home schooling they were just having fun. Go figure.

Ahead of the ship¡¯s arrival in the Hudson River, dozens of New Yorkers gathered on Manhattan¡¯s west side to watch it arrive.
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Re: The Numbers

WillyTex
 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:26 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
I looked up deaths from flu for the 2018-2019? flu season which the CDC gives at roughly 34,000.
Too bad you didn't look up and read the topics posted here - I already posted a thread about the Numbers. Now you've gone all redundant on us. LoL!

More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. YMMV.


The Numbers

 

So this morning they are touting US deaths from the coronavirus to be 3100.? Not being satisfied with just that bit of information I looked up deaths from flu for the 2018-2019? flu season which the CDC gives at roughly 34,000.? Yesterday I did same with the number of California deaths from coronavirus which was 118 and deaths from flu for the 2018-2019 flu season which was 438.? The California agency which tracks this uses death certificates issued to tally flu deaths.


Re: Ask Dr. Bhairitu

WillyTex
 

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:18 PM, RC wrote:
"I am pretty sure Biden and Bernie are having a number of conversations behind the curtain."
They are probably discussing ways to mitigate the sex scandal involving Biden. Apparently Biden just got "MeTooed." Go figure.

"We should believe all women." - Joe Biden