There have been two comments on about "if the USPS will pay
for the mail boxes". If you are not on , then you didn't see
them. It's a pain for me to have two email list, and to relay this type
of information to only a very few not on . Frankly, at this
point, I figure that if you're not on , then you're really not
that interested in keeping up with what's going on. So, from now on I'm
only dealing with . However, I hope those of you who haven't
joined will want to continue communicating with the community.
If you want to join, I will be happy to help.

The comments were:

"I thought the post office was providing the mailbox unit. Not sure what
they charge."

and

"I was also under the impression the post office provides and installs
the boxes"

At the only Board meeting I've been at, someone commented that the PO
would pay for the boxes. They were going to look into it, but I've heard
nothing more. It may be true under some circumstances, but everything
I've read on the web is like the following:

"Appropriate mail receptacles must be provided for the receipt of mail.
The type of mail receptacle depends on the mode of delivery in place.
Purchase, installation, and maintenance of mail receptacles are the
responsibility of the customer."


Most of what I've read seems to pertain to new developments, so maybe
that doesn't pertain to us. I haven't pursued it yet because it makes no
sense to me. Why would the USPS pay for cluster mailboxes so we will
stop paying to rent boxes at the post office? But life often doesn't
make sense, lol.

In any case, I was going to ask the Postmaster, Doug Hover, about it
when I talked to him about approving the site.? Back in September when
this all started, he did come out and approve the site at the "pull-out"
on the east side of Fairfield Cir directly across from the present
preferred site. But the approval was for a drive-around installation
like at Vista Del Oro. I've learned an enormous amount about easements
etc since then.? The VDO site was on HOA property, and we don't have
that luxury. Doug is a very reasonable guy and I don't expect him to
have any problem approving the new site on the west side of the road.

In any case, I'll definitely ask him about USPS owned boxes.

Ken

Good Morning Karen,

The PO will only deliver to cluster mailboxes in developments like 3 Canyons. There are no individual mailboxes in 3 Canyons. The developer of Fairfield Estates should have put in cluster mailboxes with enough tenant doors for all the lots, but he did it on the cheap with no paved roads, no mailboxes, very shallow wells, and insufficient wells (we're on a 9 share).? My guess is that the developer of VDO installled the mailboxes at the time the roads were paved and even before there were any houses. At Covey Run there is a 13 door unit and a 2 door parcel box but only three houses. Likewise at Wild Horse, the part with the entrance on Andalusian Way, they have eight units of 16 doors, enough for 128 homes, and the development isn't even half built out.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you? Just curious.

Ken

On 3/14/2021 6:52 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:

Hello I have a question also on the payment of installation of the mailboxes.? Has anyone looked into the developers responsibility? ? Also it might be worth checking with the VDO HOA to see what steps they took to install their mailboxes if this hasn't been done already? What's the difference in installing individual mailboxes, might be cheaper as each person would be responsible for their own mailboxes located at their homes?? Just a thought..

Karen

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:05 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:

There have been two comments on about "if the USPS will pay
for the mail boxes". If you are not on , then you didn't see
them. It's a pain for me to have two email list, and to relay this type
of information to only a very few not on . Frankly, at this
point, I figure that if you're not on , then you're really not
that interested in keeping up with what's going on. So, from now on I'm
only dealing with . However, I hope those of you who haven't
joined will want to continue communicating with the community.
If you want to join, I will be happy to help.

The comments were:

"I thought the post office was providing the mailbox unit. Not sure what
they charge."

and

"I was also under the impression the post office provides and installs
the boxes"

At the only Board meeting I've been at, someone commented that the PO
would pay for the boxes. They were going to look into it, but I've heard
nothing more. It may be true under some circumstances, but everything
I've read on the web is like the following:

"Appropriate mail receptacles must be provided for the receipt of mail.
The type of mail receptacle depends on the mode of delivery in place.
Purchase, installation, and maintenance of mail receptacles are the
responsibility of the customer."


Most of what I've read seems to pertain to new developments, so maybe
that doesn't pertain to us. I haven't pursued it yet because it makes no
sense to me. Why would the USPS pay for cluster mailboxes so we will
stop paying to rent boxes at the post office? But life often doesn't
make sense, lol.

In any case, I was going to ask the Postmaster, Doug Hover, about it
when I talked to him about approving the site.? Back in September when
this all started, he did come out and approve the site at the "pull-out"
on the east side of Fairfield Cir directly across from the present
preferred site. But the approval was for a drive-around installation
like at Vista Del Oro. I've learned an enormous amount about easements
etc since then.? The VDO site was on HOA property, and we don't have
that luxury. Doug is a very reasonable guy and I don't expect him to
have any problem approving the new site on the west side of the road.

In any case, I'll definitely ask him about USPS owned boxes.

Ken

Ken, all information I’ve been given told us that USPS doesn’t provide anything, thus it was included in ?our budget for 20/21.

Hearing from someone at the last meeting saying that the USPS would provide the mailboxes was promising. In my experience, whether it be with the HOA, County, City, Post Office, etc. is difficult and frustrating. ?

I look forward to the board meeting this Thursday and your input!

Jim Ruby

On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Good Morning Karen,

The PO will only deliver to cluster mailboxes in developments like 3 Canyons. There are no individual mailboxes in 3 Canyons. The developer of Fairfield Estates should have put in cluster mailboxes with enough tenant doors for all the lots, but he did it on the cheap with no paved roads, no mailboxes, very shallow wells, and insufficient wells (we're on a 9 share).? My guess is that the developer of VDO installled the mailboxes at the time the roads were paved and even before there were any houses. At Covey Run there is a 13 door unit and a 2 door parcel box but only three houses. Likewise at Wild Horse, the part with the entrance on Andalusian Way, they have eight units of 16 doors, enough for 128 homes, and the development isn't even half built out.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you? Just curious.

Ken

On 3/14/2021 6:52 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:

Hello I have a question also on the payment of installation of the mailboxes.? Has anyone looked into the developers responsibility? ? Also it might be worth checking with the VDO HOA to see what steps they took to install their mailboxes if this hasn't been done already? What's the difference in installing individual mailboxes, might be cheaper as each person would be responsible for their own mailboxes located at their homes?? Just a thought..

Karen

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:05 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:

There have been two comments on about "if the USPS will pay
for the mail boxes". If you are not on , then you didn't see
them. It's a pain for me to have two email list, and to relay this type
of information to only a very few not on . Frankly, at this
point, I figure that if you're not on , then you're really not
that interested in keeping up with what's going on. So, from now on I'm
only dealing with . However, I hope those of you who haven't
joined will want to continue communicating with the community.
If you want to join, I will be happy to help.

The comments were:

"I thought the post office was providing the mailbox unit. Not sure what
they charge."

and

"I was also under the impression the post office provides and installs
the boxes"

At the only Board meeting I've been at, someone commented that the PO
would pay for the boxes. They were going to look into it, but I've heard
nothing more. It may be true under some circumstances, but everything
I've read on the web is like the following:

"Appropriate mail receptacles must be provided for the receipt of mail.
The type of mail receptacle depends on the mode of delivery in place.
Purchase, installation, and maintenance of mail receptacles are the
responsibility of the customer."


Most of what I've read seems to pertain to new developments, so maybe
that doesn't pertain to us. I haven't pursued it yet because it makes no
sense to me. Why would the USPS pay for cluster mailboxes so we will
stop paying to rent boxes at the post office? But life often doesn't
make sense, lol.

In any case, I was going to ask the Postmaster, Doug Hover, about it
when I talked to him about approving the site.? Back in September when
this all started, he did come out and approve the site at the "pull-out"
on the east side of Fairfield Cir directly across from the present
preferred site. But the approval was for a drive-around installation
like at Vista Del Oro. I've learned an enormous amount about easements
etc since then.? The VDO site was on HOA property, and we don't have
that luxury. Doug is a very reasonable guy and I don't expect him to
have any problem approving the new site on the west side of the road.

In any case, I'll definitely ask him about USPS owned boxes.

Ken