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vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
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I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio. K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Monday, December 10, 2018, 11:59:30 PM EST, vk3sq@... [FT-857] wrote:
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+1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered while being rode out of town on a rail. The Wouff Hong would probably enter into the picture somewhere along the way. Please reconsider.
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Mike / W8DN On 12/11/2018 6:05 AM, chuck tobias cltoby600@... [FT-857] wrote:
I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio. |
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Steven KA9MOT
Maybe that is how things are done in VK Land. Probably not on HF, but maybe they like a little beep at the end of their transmission.... BEEP? Steve KA9MOT "One man with courage makes a majority." ~? Andrew Jackson
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开云体育PLEASE don’t do that! You would become a laughing stock and find that the number of hams that talk to you would diminish rapidly! Not to mention being made fun of and laughed at!!! ? Paul – K4BET ? From: FT-857@... [mailto:FT-857@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:40 PM To: FT-857@... Subject: Re: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d ? ? +1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered |
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Jk
开云体育On local VHF nets it is common to start a transmission with “This is” and un-key and listen for someone transmitting. Then key again and transmit message.? I makes me wonder if a start of transmission ?blip “courtesy tone” would could replace the “This is” to reduce doubled up transmissions.? Im fine with nothing and un-keying mike to listen for double ups. . ? ? ??
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I'm not suggesting that something bad will happen, but I did the same thing with a Uniden 2510 10 meter radio in my company truck. I could turn the beep on and off. I got a lot of complaints when using it. Give it a try and see how it plays. Good Luck K3CLT Chuck Tobias
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 2:44:30 PM EST, Mike Rhodes weightdn@... [FT-857] wrote:
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+1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered |
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Russell Stringfield
In Europe, I believe, it takes a tone to open the repeater. Same thing that we hear when NASA talks to the ISS, etc.
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Russ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jk mwblacksmith@... [FT-857] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d ? On local VHF nets it is common to start a transmission with “This is” and un-key and listen for someone transmitting. Then key again and transmit message.? I makes me wonder if a start of transmission ?blip “courtesy tone” would could replace the “This is” to reduce doubled up transmissions.? Im fine with nothing and un-keying mike to listen for double ups. . On Dec 11, 2018, at 8:47 PM, n4mf_sc@... [FT-857] <FT-857@...> wrote:
? There in lies the truth, VK's (Australia) has their own Radio Frequency Control Authority that only governs them.. The FCC has 0 (zero) influence there, Same goes for the UK... Just cause it don't fly here doesn't mean it doesn't fly elsewhere... Mitch N4MF ____________________________________________________________ New Testosterone Booster Takes GNC By Storm themenshealthmuscle.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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NASA actually uses QUINDAR tones for in-band signalling.
And they are only transmitted by ground control.
The first tone (2525 Hz) turns on the remote transmitters.
The second tone (2475 Hz) turns off the remote transmitters.
These tones are 250 ms of pure sine waves and being so close together can be notched out with a single filter.
73 - Bill KA8VIT
From: FT-857@... on behalf of Russell Stringfield rs12240@... [FT-857]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:38 AM To: FT-857@... Subject: RE: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d ?
In Europe, I believe, it takes a tone to open the repeater.? Same thing that we hear when NASA talks to the ISS, etc.
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开云体育The tones used in the US, and probably universally, to open the squelch on repeaters are sub-audible PL tones. Those are never heard over the air since they're sent for the duration of the transmission and it would be quite annoying. Roger Beeps can be traced back to the CB craze and even back to a particular radio. The Browning Golden Eagle "pinged" and the beginning of each transmission. It was Browning's way to let everyone know that their radios were special, and a way for the consumer to brag about his high dollar CB every time he keyed the microphone. Soon, people were finding mechanical ways to reproduce the ping. One was to put a piece of metal in the mic that made a noise when the mic was keyed. Next, manufacturers started building microphones with electronic pings. Then, sound effects were added such as echo chambers, animal sounds, and a host of other things that made CB the useless waste of spectrum that it is today. Let's keep the ham airwaves clean, understandable, and professional. Leave the roger beeps and funny noises on the Children's Band where they originated.Randy (KE5EOT)
ARRL, QCWA, ARES, RACES, ROWH
On 12/12/18 7:38 AM, Russell
Stringfield rs12240@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Bob
The original reference to opening amateur repeaters referred (in the UK and much of Europe at least) to the 1750Hz tone sent as a burst and only at the beginning of the transmission and before speech began. At least one popular transceiver of the day sold with a "G" suffix for the UK market used an encapsulated tuning-fork type device to generate the tone. In the UK, as the number of repeaters grew and it became necessary to share channels, the use of CTCSS became mandatory although I think there are still a few repeaters than can still be opened with the 1750 burst. With all this talk of FM, nobody has considered VHF/UHF SSB operation, where an EOT tone may still have value in weak signal work and/or emergency operations? Bob, G8IYK |
开云体育What's still functioning is back up, but the site is far out of date. I've taken the site out of my signature until I have time to bring it up to date, or just dump it completely.Randy (KE5EOT) ARRL, QCWA, ARES, RACES, ROWH On 12/13/18 4:50 PM, kd4kzz@...
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@OP I say give it a try, but why fit it inside? Make a mic adapter and have it external then it can be removed easily without affecting the radio's value. Of course there will be moans from some (OK most) amateurs but they might have forgotten that ham radio is about experimenting, which is what you will be doing, practicing your electronic skills and learning new things. When I was first licenced I only had an old Alinco DJ-G5 hand held, I had it 'home base' style connected to a 12v supply and a discone. I also used a Maplin Voice Vandal to power my K40 CB mic on it too, I did get a few uncomplimentary comments when the echo was on but it worked well enough. There will always be fuddy duddies that will say you can't do this or that, but radio needs to be a fun hobby else it's not so ineresting imho. And yes I was a CB'er. As for roger bleeps, the first I heard (in UK) was the Ham International range of export CB's in 1980 and they used the first surface mount componants I ever saw (yes, I kid you not, SMT's in the eighties). They were the high end radios and the price reflected that of course, it was obvious you'd spent a good deal of your hard earned when folks heard the beep. Other manufacturers followed and they became quite common in the end. Pip tones, K bleeps, multi-tones and animal noises where a bit of a craze back then. If you really wanted to wind up the locals I would like to suggest a HyGain V (five) bleep - wee-ee. Not the best way to make friends and influance people tho', lol. But at the end of the day it's just a bit of harmless fun so why the heck not. |